Christopher Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Holy crap Diethylene glycol was found in the ecig! Calm down relax. I've had a few emails over the concern of Diethylene glycol. Are you really going to use that as your excuse to go back to smoking? Come on. Sit down and let's get educated about our new little freind. (Keep in mind that most juice does not contain DG) I'm not saying DG is good for you, and I'm not denying that the FDA actually found DG but you have to compare what's in an ecig to what's in an analog. It's a MAJOR step closer to a nic delivering device that contains MUCH less crap than analog. Nobody can argue that, not even the FDA. You can find more about DG here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylene_glycol This is what's normally found in an ecig: NICOTINE (FROM TOBACCO LEAF) DIMETHYLPYRAZINE ACETYLPYRAZINE LINAL0OL PROPYLENE GLYCOL Flavor (Peach, Cola etc) Oh by the way here is a list of the additives found in your favorite cigarette.... Acetanisole Acetic Acid Acetoin Acetophenone 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran Acetylpyrazine 2-Acetylpyridine 3-Acetylpyridine 2-Acetylthiazole Aconitic Acid dl-Alanine Alfalfa Extract Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil Allyl Hexanoate Allyl Ionone Almond Bitter Oil Ambergris Tincture Ammonia Ammonium Bicarbonate Ammonium Hydroxide Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic Ammonium Sulfide Amyl Alcohol Amyl Butyrate Amyl Formate Amyl Octanoate alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde Amyris Oil trans-Anethole Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil Anise Anise Star, Extract and Oils Anisyl Acetate Anisyl Alcohol Anisyl Formate Anisyl Phenylacetate Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate 1-Arginine Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil Ascorbic Acid 1-Asparagine Monohydrate 1-Aspartic Acid Balsam Peru and Oil Basil Oil Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil Beeswax White Beet Juice Concentrate Benzaldehyde Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal Benzoic Acid, Benzoin Benzoin Resin Benzophenone Benzyl Alcohol Benzyl Benzoate Benzyl Butyrate Benzyl Cinnamate Benzyl Propionate Benzyl Salicylate Bergamot Oil Bisabolene Black Currant Buds Absolute Borneol Bornyl Acetate Buchu Leaf Oil 1,3-Butanediol 2,3-Butanedione 1-Butanol 2-Butanone 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil Butyl Acetate Butyl Butyrate Butyl Butyryl Lactate Butyl Isovalerate Butyl Phenylacetate Butyl Undecylenate 3-Butylidenephthalide Butyric Acid] Cadinene Caffeine Calcium Carbonate Camphene Cananga Oil Capsicum Oleoresin Caramel Color Caraway Oil Carbon Dioxide Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder Carob Bean and Extract beta-Carotene Carrot Oil Carvacrol 4-Carvomenthenol 1-Carvone beta-Caryophyllene beta-Caryophyllene Oxide Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract Cassia Bark Oil Cassie Absolute and Oil Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute Cedar Leaf Oil Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana Cedrol Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin Cellulose Fiber Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract Chicory Extract Chocolate Cinnamaldehyde Cinnamic Acid Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract Cinnamyl Acetate Cinnamyl Alcohol Cinnamyl Cinnamate Cinnamyl Isovalerate Cinnamyl Propionate Citral Citric Acid Citronella Oil dl-Citronellol Citronellyl Butyrate itronellyl Isobutyrate Civet Absolute Clary Oil Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract Cocoa Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder Coconut Oil Coffee Cognac White and Green Oil Copaiba Oil Coriander Extract and Oil Corn Oil Corn Silk Costus Root Oil Cubeb Oil Cuminaldehyde para-Cymene 1-Cysteine Oh but wait there's more! Decanoic Acid 1-Decanol 2-Decenal Dehydromenthofurolactone Diethyl Malonate Diethyl Sebacate 2,3-Diethylpyrazine Dihydro Anethole 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine Dill Seed Oil and Extract meta-Dimethoxybenzene para-Dimethoxybenzene 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol Dimethyl Succinate 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone delta-Dodecalactone gamma-Dodecalactone para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde Ethyl 10-Undecenoate Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate Ethyl Acetate Ethyl Acetoacetate Ethyl Alcohol Ethyl Benzoate Ethyl Butyrate Ethyl Cinnamate Ethyl Decanoate Ethyl Fenchol Ethyl Furoate Ethyl Heptanoate Ethyl Hexanoate Ethyl Isovalerate Ethyl Lactate Ethyl Laurate Ethyl Levulinate Ethyl Maltol Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate Ethyl Myristate Ethyl Nonanoate Ethyl Octadecanoate Ethyl Octanoate Ethyl Oleate Ethyl Palmitate Ethyl Phenylacetate Ethyl Propionate Ethyl Salicylate Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate Ethyl Valerate Ethyl Vanillin 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde 4-Ethylguaiacol para-Ethylphenol 3-Ethylpyridine Eucalyptol Farnesol D-Fenchone Fennel Sweet Oil Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute Fig Juice Concentrate Food Starch Modified Furfuryl Mercaptan 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One Galbanum Oil Genet Absolute Gentian Root Extract Geraniol Geranium Rose Oil Geranyl Acetate Geranyl Butyrate Geranyl Formate Geranyl Isovalerate Geranyl Phenylacetate Ginger Oil and Oleoresin 1-Glutamic Acid 1-Glutamine Glycerol Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated Grape Juice Concentrate Guaiac Wood Oil Guaiacol Guar Gum 2,4-Heptadienal gamma-Heptalactone Heptanoic Acid 2-Heptanone 3-Hepten-2-One 2-Hepten-4-One 4-Heptenal trans -2-Heptenal Heptyl Acetate omega-6-Hexadecenlactone gamma-Hexalactone Hexanal Hexanoic Acid 2-Hexen-1-Ol 3-Hexen-1-Ol cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate 2-Hexenal 3-Hexenoic Acid trans-2-Hexenoic Acid cis-3-Hexenyl Formate Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate Hexyl Acetate Hexyl Alcohol Hexyl Phenylacetate 1-Histidine Honey Hops Oil Hydrolyzed Milk Solids Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone Hydroxycitronellal 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone Hyssop Oil Immortelle Absolute and Extract alpha-Ionone beta-Ionone alpha-Irone Isoamyl Acetate Isoamyl Benzoate Isoamyl Butyrate Isoamyl Cinnamate Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate Isoamyl Isovalerate Isoamyl Octanoate Isoamyl Phenylacetate Isobornyl Acetate Isobutyl Acetate Isobutyl Alcohol Isobutyl Cinnamate Isobutyl Phenylacetate Isobutyl Salicylate 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol Isobutyraldehyde Isobutyric Acid d,l-Isoleucine alpha-Isomethylionone 2-Isopropylphenol Isovaleric Acid Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil Kola Nut Extract Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin Lactic Acid Lauric Acid Lauric Aldehyde Lavandin Oil Lavender Oil Lemon Oil and Extract Lemongrass Oil 1-Leucine Levulinic Acid Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder Lime Oil Linalool Linalool Oxide Linalyl Acetate Linden Flowers Lovage Oil And Extract 1-Lysine] Mace Powder, Extract and Oil Magnesium Carbonate Malic Acid Malt and Malt Extract Maltodextrin Maltol Maltyl Isobutyrate Mandarin Oil Maple Syrup and Concentrate Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One Menthol Menthone Menthyl Acetate dl-Methionine Methoprene 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol para-Methoxybenzaldehyde 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone Methoxypyrazine Methyl 2-Furoate Methyl 2-Octynoate Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone Methyl Anisate Methyl Anthranilate Methyl Benzoate Methyl Cinnamate Methyl Dihydrojasmonate Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated Methyl Isovalerate Methyl Linoleate (48%) Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture Methyl Naphthyl Ketone Methyl Nicotinate Methyl Phenylacetate Methyl Salicylate Methyl Sulfide 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole What you think we're done!!!!? 2-Methylbutyraldehyde 3-Methylbutyraldehyde 2-Methylbutyric Acid alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde Methylcyclopentenolone 2-Methylheptanoic Acid 2-Methylhexanoic Acid 3-Methylpentanoic Acid 4-Methylpentanoic Acid 2-Methylpyrazine 5-Methylquinoxaline 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers) 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate 2-Methylvaleric Acid Mimosa Absolute and Extract Molasses Extract and Tincture Mountain Maple Solid Extract Mullein Flowers Myristaldehyde Myristic Acid Myrrh Oil beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether Nerol Neroli Bigarde Oil Nerolidol Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol gamma-Nonalactone Nonanal Nonanoic Acid Nonanone trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol 2-Nonenal Nonyl Acetate Nutmeg Powder and Oil Oak Chips Extract and Oil Oak Moss Absolute 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%) delta-Octalactone gamma-Octalactone Octanal Octanoic Acid 1-Octanol 2-Octanone 3-Octen-2-One 1-Octen-3-Ol 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate 2-Octenal Octyl Isobutyrate Oleic Acid Olibanum Oil Opoponax Oil And Gum Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute Orange Oil and Extract Origanum Oil Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract Palmarosa Oil Palmitic Acid Parsley Seed Oil Patchouli Oil omega-Pentadecalactone 2,3-Pentanedione 2-Pentanone 4-Pentenoic Acid 2-Pentylpyridine Pepper Oil, Black And White Peppermint Oil Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil alpha-Phellandrene 2-Phenenthyl Acetate Phenenthyl Alcohol Phenethyl Butyrate Phenethyl Cinnamate Phenethyl Isobutyrate Phenethyl Isovalerate Phenethyl Phenylacetate Phenethyl Salicylate 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One Phenylacetaldehyde Phenylacetic Acid 1-Phenylalanine 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde 3-Phenylpropionic Acid 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran Phosphoric Acid Pimenta Leaf Oil Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch Pineapple Juice Concentrate alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene D-Piperitone Piperonal Pipsissewa Leaf Extract Plum Juice Potassium Sorbate 1-Proline Propenylguaethol Propionic Acid Propyl Acetate Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate Propylene Glycol 3-Propylidenephthalide Prune Juice and Concentrate Pyridine Pyroligneous Acid And Extract Pyrrole Pyruvic Acid Raisin Juice Concentrate Rhodinol Rose Absolute and Oil Rosemary Oil Rum Rum Ether Rye Extract Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin Salicylaldehyde Sandalwood Oil, Yellow Sclareolide Skatole Smoke Flavor Snakeroot Oil Sodium Acetate Sodium Benzoate Sodium Bicarbonate Sodium Carbonate Sodium Chloride Sodium Citrate Sodium Hydroxide Solanone Spearmint Oil Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil Sucrose Octaacetate Sugar Alcohols Sugars Tagetes Oil Tannic Acid Tartaric Acid Tea Leaf and Absolute alpha-Terpineol Terpinolene Terpinyl Acetate 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine Thiamine Hydrochloride Thiazole 1-Threonine Thyme Oil, White and Red Thymol Tobacco Extracts Tochopherols (mixed) Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract Tolualdehydes para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde para-Tolyl Acetate para-Tolyl Isobutyrate para-Tolyl Phenylacetate Triacetin 2-Tridecanone 2-Tridecenal Triethyl Citrate 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine 1-Tyrosine delta-Undercalactone gamma-Undecalactone Undecanal 2-Undecanone, 1 0-Undecenal Urea Valencene Valeraldehyde Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder Valeric Acid gamma-Valerolactone Valine Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin Vanillin Veratraldehyde Vetiver Oil Vinegar Violet Leaf Absolute Walnut Hull Extract Water Wheat Extract And Flour Wild Cherry Bark Extract Wine and Wine Sherry Xanthan Gum 3,4-Xylenol Yeast Oh and yes the FDA is allowing your favorite cigarette to still be sold at your local gas station
bzeisman Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 at least analogs have cinnamon and maple syrup. now only if digital smokes made a waffle flavor, id never have to eat again
LaceyUnderall Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 Thank you for the "Come to Jesus" meeting as my dad would call it. A slice of reality! YES! There is stuff in the ecig! But there is also stuff in the NRT's and definitely stuff in Cigarettes! Heck, there is stuff in the air that we breathe! IMHO this is great stuff. The THR camp is going to come out fighting on this one now! Viva la ecig!
Royce Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 wow they found one or two things that could potentialy cause damage in an ecigg *rolls eyes* as opposed to analogs that have 1,000's not to mention two of the most toxic(to humans) chemicals on the planet, cyanide and arscinic
Christopher Posted July 27, 2009 Author Posted July 27, 2009 Not to mention that DG was only found in a very small amount of carts, of couse none would be better and I'm sure SE is working pretty damn hard to make sure that doesn't happen again, but when you compare the ecig to the analog it's a joke.
SusBan Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 Is DG a component in battery acid? I got a frantic call from my Mother after she saw some story on tv. I'm definitely sending her the list of analog ingredients!
Christopher Posted July 27, 2009 Author Posted July 27, 2009 Is DG a component in battery acid? I got a frantic call from my Mother after she saw some story on tv. I'm definitely sending her the list of analog ingredients! Although I'm not an expert, I don't think so. She may be getting confused with ethylene glycol which is in battery acid as well as anti freeze. People tend to confuse themselves when they hear "glycol" Keep in mind this was only found in Smoke Everywhere carts on not NJOY carts. I also know that it's not in Dietsmokes, Truesmoker, Vapor Talk's or Nicstix juice either. I've had people tell me PG is in anti freeze, *sigh* It usually not found in antifreeze, but it is found in many vitamines and for that matter Baby Wipes.
Royce Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 Is DG a component in battery acid? I got a frantic call from my Mother after she saw some story on tv. I'm definitely sending her the list of analog ingredients! No its a component of Anti-Freeze... Not that that will help much on the frantic mother front
SusBan Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Thanks guys -- and yes, I probably won't explain it to my mother! :P I am going to send her some other info from this site on the FDA's bogus claims -- particularly the blog http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/ Of course, Siegel must be biased in some fashion and if it's on CNN it must be true, but it's worth a try. Okay, time for a quote from George Carlin (perhaps somewhat butchered in my recall): Scary thought: how stupid the average American is ... worse, half of them are even stupider than that.
Christopher Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 Oh your going to get brownie points from the staff! George Carlin his my hero.
SusBan Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Oh your going to get brownie points from the staff! George Carlin his my hero. Mr. Carlin ROCKS (and of course my mother doesn't like him cause he said something bad about golf courses ....)
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