3.7 V Vs 5.0 And Low Rez Atomizers

[Rd28]

Hey people, Rd28 here again with yet anouther question.

I was wondering what the difference is between a high voltage battery and a low rez atty,

What exactly is the difference and the outcome.

I have a standard joy 510 and was thinking about getting some parts like the low res atty

I also was thinking about picking up the Joy ego, and i believe the atomizers for the 510 are the same for the ego and if that being the case would the low rez atty i get for my 510 also work for the ego?

Since I havent puchesed the ego yet what parts would u recommend i get for it and why? i might be able to sub out somthing like batt or atties.

i rescently seen the vids about the big atties and carts for the ego, not realy sure thats the way i want to go because it makes the thing look so giant. anyway please let me know what you guys think.

I'm trying to get as much great tasting vape as possable and i DD at home and use carts for work. Thx

[Burn]

Think about the process like this.

There is a coil that is at the center of every e-cig. It heats up the liquid and produces the vapor. IF you increase the power(wattage) of the coil you increase the heat which will change the output of the vapor. How it changes it can be a little subjective but higher voltage typically produces greater vapor volume and can diminish the flavor. Once again this is subjective but it is important to recognize that the variable that I am discussing is the heat of the coil.

A higher voltage battery will increase the power, therefore the heat of the coil. You also must realize that there is another factor of the equation and that is the resistance of the coil/atomizer. If you were to use 3.7v of power with a standard atomizer that has a resistance level (ohm) of 2.2 your wattage output would be 6.22 watts, this is the amount of power that is being applied to the coil. Let's say you were to use a 5.0 V power source, with the same atomizer, the wattage would be 11.36 watts, almost twice as much as a 3.7 power source.

Another approach is the use of a lower resistance atomizer, usually rated around 1.5 ohm. a 3.7 power source would them produce a wattage of 9.12 This allows you to produce power that is close to a 5v power source without needing a new device or batteries. These are pretty easy to get and not very expensive, many suppliers offer these, including the Vapor Talk store.

In both of these examples, what we are effectively doing is increasing the power to the coil, elevating the heat of the coil to manipulate the vapor that is being produced.

A couple of notes: a LR atomizer will not work on the standard 510 battery as it does not have enough battery capacity for the output. Also a LR atomizer should not be used on a 5v power supply as it will overload the coil and break it, similar to a power surge on a light bulb.

I hope this is not too complicated but in essence, this is exactly what the power discussions are all about, end wattage. It can be easy to lose this principle as everyone talks about devicess, atomizers, batteries, passthroughs, etc. At the end of the day, the end wattage is what heats the coil and will produce more or less vapor/flavor.

Power is calculated through Joule's law. You can find an easy to use calculator here:

http://thelocust.net/ohm/

A wiki post with a good explanation is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule%27s_laws

One option that is available to you that was not to me a few months ago when I was starting was variable voltage devices. These allow you to adjust the end wattage through the use of a variable regulator. It can give you 3.7v up to 6V and everything in between. However, it does require batteries and sizes. I did a review of one of these that can be found here (includes size comparisons).

http://www.vaportalk.com/forum/forum/topic/6307-the-buzz-final-review-update/

The eGo is a tremendous device, one that I used and it works well with a LR atomizer. There is no shortage of eGo or eGo similar devices.

I strongly recommend that you read all the reviews and discussions you can before you buy. You may also want to stop into the video chat room where you will never find a shortage of people to discuss this with you.

I know there is a lot of info in this post and I hope it was helpful. I bought 6 devices until I found the one for me (and I am probably still not done... ) and I hope that this post will help you avoid having to go through the typical progression of devices that most go through to find out what is best for their needs.

Remember, evaluate what your needs are and what is important to you. Just because a device works well for me (or anyone else) does not ensure it is a good fit for you. Find out why people like the devices and match that up with your requirements. Good Luck.

Edited July 2, 2010 by Burn

[Bigjim]

Wow Burn, very informative! I appreciate your efforts.

[Mike]

A couple of notes: a LR atomizer will not work on the standard 510 battery as it does not have enough battery capacity for the output. Also a LR atomizer should not be used on a 5v power supply as it will overload the coil and break it, similar to a power surge on a light bulb.

[Rd28]

Thx guys that was some great info, what i think ii am going to do is order a 5v passthrough for my 510 and when i grab the ego kit ill also order a low res atty for it.

Thx again

[Antidevil]

A LR cartomizer would be cool, but I get the feeling the reason they're [cartomizers] so cheap is because there isn't a whole lot of play with the fabrication/production.

[Brian]

A LR cartomizer would be cool, but I get the feeling the reason they're [cartomizers] so cheap is because there isn't a whole lot of play with the fabrication/production.

There are some LR cartos out now at a few places (nhaler is the only one I can think of off hand).

[actor92191]

Remember, you can also experiment with other atomizers. Many shops sell low resistance 801's and 901's in addition to the low resistance 510's and cartomizers.

Everyone has their own opinion on what they like best. Most vapers would probably say they prefer the 510 atomizer, but I personally prefer the 801 atomizer. Buy just a little bit of everything and experiment (at a low price) with everything out there until you find what you like the best! Just remember, everyone on this forum used to smoke analogs at one point in time, but we all had our own preferences on what type/brand of cigarettes we liked. The same goes for vaping!

Hope you find your perfect vape!

[Burn]

[NeRo9k]

Like Actor stated, everyone has different tastes and preferences. I've recently feel in love with the LR 901 atomizer on my eGo. I thought the LR 510 was amazing until I tried a LR 901. You want vapor production, throat hit and taste?

[DAYVAPE]

I brought this up in another thread I had started...

But, I definately don't "enjoy" 3.7 w/ LR anymore... it just doesn't compare to HV vaping to me.

The other day I has switched to my Tornado w/ LR atty on it and I thought something wasn't working right for a minute. Then realized that it was the difference when going from 5v to LR atty. So, my Tornado has become my main backup device!