Celtic Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hi guys, The lady that does my hair wants me to purchase her an e-cig and I believe the THE LADY VYPR-510 is the best fit for her since she smokes almost a pack a day. I need to purchase this tonight, but I just found out that is does not come with an atomizer. Will the low resistance atomizers work on the VYPR or is the VYPR to strong for it??? Also, does anyone know the phone number to VaprLife? My mom ordered a Passthrough from them, but it took forever to get it and I need to receive it before Wednesday. Does it usually take them a long time to receive an order from them? Thanks, Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTJoe Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hi guys, The lady that does my hair wants me to purchase her an e-cig and I believe the THE LADY VYPR-510 is the best fit for her since she smokes almost a pack a day. I need to purchase this tonight, but I just found out that is does not come with an atomizer. Will the low resistance atomizers work on the VYPR or is the VYPR to strong for it??? Also, does anyone know the phone number to VaprLife? My mom ordered a Passthrough from them, but it took forever to get it and I need to receive it before Wednesday. Does it usually take them a long time to receive an order from them? Thanks, Celtic Vaprlife is awesome but you are going into the weekend. Looks like its 3.7 volts so an LR atty should be fine (not only fine but fantastic). Remember though, is something fails, there should be a backup. I would go simple first, then add the mods later. Ego is wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I agree you might want to start with something smaller and more simple to start with. But to answer your question I don't see why the LR attys wouldn't work. The rule of thumb is to keep LR atomizers away from high voltage units (5 volt and higher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Great, thank you! I will start her out with regular atomizers. Thanks, Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snubber Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Sounds like a sweet set-up. Hope she likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTJoe Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Great, thank you! I will start her out with regular atomizers. Thanks, Celtic If you are going with the vypr, go low res, and have a few cartos around as well. My point was to go simple on the device, not the atty. if its a first timer, mods can be a little intimidating and you don't want it failing and have to go back to cigs. Hey - the fun here is starting with a t510, having people dig it, then moving up. Ego is amazing, especially with cartos and/or an LR atty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miatafrank Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 It's time for electronics 101, and how it applies to PVs. Current flow (measured in amps) is the movement of electrons through a conductor. These electrons are sent out by the power source (volts) to act as the workers, and resistance (measured in ohms) is in the path of current flow and will slow the electrons (workers) down. Power (measured in watts) is the measurement of work being performed in the circuit, and will always manifest itself in the form of heat (doesn't that sound like heating up an atomizer to you?). Of course too much heat (power/watts) will pop the atty. Now for the math, and I promise it's not that complicated: A physicist by the name of George Simon Ohmdiscovered that there is a tight relationship between voltage, current, and resistance. This relationship can be described and predicted by mathematics, which has become known as "Ohm's Law". The basic statement of relationship is that voltage and current are directly proportional (when we increase voltage, current will increase as well), and that current and resistance are inversely proportional (when we increase resistance, current will decrease). Voltage = current multiplied by resistance Current = voltage divided by resistance Resistance = voltage divided by current Power = voltage multiplied by current Now let's apply Ohm's Law to a PV: A 3.7v device with a standard atty; Voltage 3.7v divided by an atty that is 3ohms = 1.23amps The heat produced by this is determined by the power in watts which is 3.7v multiplied by 1.23amps = 4.563watts We know this works, and we can use these numbers to compare the performance of the other combinations. A 3.7v device with a LR atty; 3.7v / 1.5ohms = 2.46amps 3.7v * 2.46amps = 9.126watts (remember, this is the heat) A 5v device with a standard atty; 5v / 3ohms = 1.66amps 5v * 1.66amps = 8.33watts (remember, this is the heat) A 5v device with a LR atty; 5v / 1.5ohms = 3.33amps 5v * 3.33amps = 16.66watts (remember, this is the heat.....POP) A 6v device with a standard atty; 6v / 3ohms = 2amps 6v * 2amps = 12watts (remember, this is the heat...on the bourder of POP) A 6v device with a HV atty; 6v / 4.3ohms = 1.395amps 6v * 1.395amps = 8.372watts (remember, this is the heat....is this really any better than a standard atty at 5v?) My ohm values for the attys are approximate, but you get the picture. This really answers all the questions "will this work with this?", "will that work with that?". I also think that anyone dabbling in making their own mods should understand these basics when choosing components that will work well together, and avoid injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Thanks for the info. I'll have to keep that handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miatafrank Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Thanks for the info. I'll have to keep that handy. Do you think I should re-post this info as it's own thread so it can easily found, instead of burried here? If so, should it be posted in the general section, or the modding section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 It's time for electronics 101, and how it applies to PVs. Current flow (measured in amps) is the movement of electrons through a conductor. These electrons are sent out by the power source (volts) to act as the workers, and resistance (measured in ohms) is in the path of current flow and will slow the electrons (workers) down. Power (measured in watts) is the measurement of work being performed in the circuit, and will always manifest itself in the form of heat (doesn't that sound like heating up an atomizer to you?). Of course too much heat (power/watts) will pop the atty. Now for the math, and I promise it's not that complicated: A physicist by the name of George Simon Ohmdiscovered that there is a tight relationship between voltage, current, and resistance. This relationship can be described and predicted by mathematics, which has become known as "Ohm's Law". The basic statement of relationship is that voltage and current are directly proportional (when we increase voltage, current will increase as well), and that current and resistance are inversely proportional (when we increase resistance, current will decrease). Voltage = current multiplied by resistance Current = voltage divided by resistance Resistance = voltage divided by current Power = voltage multiplied by current Now let's apply Ohm's Law to a PV: A 3.7v device with a standard atty; Voltage 3.7v divided by an atty that is 3ohms = 1.23amps The heat produced by this is determined by the power in watts which is 3.7v multiplied by 1.23amps = 4.563watts We know this works, and we can use these numbers to compare the performance of the other combinations. A 3.7v device with a LR atty; 3.7v / 1.5ohms = 2.46amps 3.7v * 2.46amps = 9.126watts (remember, this is the heat) A 5v device with a standard atty; 5v / 3ohms = 1.66amps 5v * 1.66amps = 8.33watts (remember, this is the heat) A 5v device with a LR atty; 5v / 1.5ohms = 3.33amps 5v * 3.33amps = 16.66watts (remember, this is the heat.....POP) A 6v device with a standard atty; 6v / 3ohms = 2amps 6v * 2amps = 12watts (remember, this is the heat...on the bourder of POP) A 6v device with a HV atty; 6v / 4.3ohms = 1.395amps 6v * 1.395amps = 8.372watts (remember, this is the heat....is this really any better than a standard atty at 5v?) My ohm values for the attys are approximate, but you get the picture. This really answers all the questions "will this work with this?", "will that work with that?". I also think that anyone dabbling in making their own mods should understand these basics when choosing components that will work well together, and avoid injury. Huh? What was that? What do you mean? Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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