High Voltage Juice

[ddavelarsen]

By now you know how my memory works: not. So it takes me a while to remember all those questions I want to ask, and then actually ask them when I'm in the forum. So here's one.

I've heard people say that some juice works better at various voltages. I haven't kept any records so am at a loss right off the bat here, as I think about buying juice with 5 or 6V in mind. The VP PT has convinced me I like higher voltage and will be getting a high-V mod here as soon as it's feasible.

So, does anyone know why some juice performs better at higher voltage? I don't know whether it's the brand of base or flavoring, or what it might be. But I think it makes sense to try to nail that down. Does PG or VG make a difference? If so, what's the ideal mix?

In other words, what are the specific formulaic differences between those that work well at 3.7 vs 5V?

Second, what recommendations do you folks have for high-V juice? I'm willing to step down to 36mg if necessary. But I'm also planning to DIY some juice soon, so if I can learn what components help the liquid perform better at 5V, I will try to incorporate that into my ordering.

Any ideas welcome! Thanks, and vape on.

[Lee]

I'm not sure about the high voltage angle, but I have noticed that there is a big difference in consistency from source to source. That translates into how well the juice wicks in the atty, or at least it appears so to me. The juice I just got from Ms. T's Bakery Essentials is a 50/50 PG/VG mix, but has a fairly thin consistency. I've notice that when I refill my cart it takes more drips to do so and I am refilling less often. Since it is part VG, the vapor production is much higher than my previous PG-only juices.

Another thing that may be a factor in high voltage usage might be the strength of the flavor in the juice. If there is minimal flavor at 3.7V, I would suspect that it would not hold up at 4-5V. But that's purely speculation on my part.

[Schizophretard]

My guess would be that the more flavoring there is the more voltage is required to vaporize it because the flavoring isn't vaporized but is carried by the vapor. The more flavoring to carry the hotter the PG/VG would have to get to carry it. If I was to get a non flavored juice and added some flavoring then I would assume that it would produce less vapor than if I didn't put any flavoring in. If I kept adding flavoring I would get more and more flavor and less and less vapor. At 3.7 volts I would get to a point where there is too much flavoring to produce vapor and my atty would clog but if I took the atty off and put it on a 5 volt mod or more it probably would produce vapor. I don't know but my guess would be that a high voltage juice is one that has too much flavoring to work at 3.7 volts and all that flavoring is added because at higher volts you burn off flavor. In other words, a juice made for 3.7 volts would have less flavor at a higher voltage and a juice made for higher voltage would have less vapor at 3.7 volts. It is just my guess though.

[jmhester]

I have some thoughts on it but it's purely speculative since I'm just now starting to experiment. The idea is that the PG or VG vaporizes because of the atty coil. Both substances have a vaporization point at about 120F. The flavorings, etc. would probably have a vapor point that is different from the PG/VG. Maybe lower since they are usually some type of oil. I think that maybe at high voltages, instead of vaporizing the flavored oils turn into a gas which is less flavorful. In other words, they could actually be burning rather than boiling.

I've tried Nhaler's High Voltage juice (video review coming) and I honestly don't notice much difference in taste at 3.7,5,or 6V.

We should maybe move this thread to DIY juice and continue it. We might come up with something good since we all seem to be moving toward HV units.