cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I getting a bit confuse with that charts... let me explain....I found that in general my tanks works better when I go to the RED area in that charts, in fact according to that charts I am burning my coils, but I'm not. The recommended settings for 2.20 resistance is 8.00 / 4.20..but at that settings my tank is under performing, then I crank up the power to 11.0 / 5.0 and is perfect... please..someone explain.
bcartervol98 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Those are general guidelines for maximizing performance and life of your coil. I vape at 7.5-8w using 1.8ohm depending on the age of the coil (as the taste starts to degrade I have found cranking from 7.5 to 8w will keep it going for another day or two. Its still subjective and no chart can say what any one person will prefer.
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 Those are general guidelines for maximizing performance and life of your coil. I vape at 7.5-8w using 1.8ohm depending on the age of the coil (as the taste starts to degrade I have found cranking from 7.5 to 8w will keep it going for another day or two. Its still subjective and no chart can say what any one person will prefer.Well.. they are well off, the difference is massive. As soon as you crank the power up is a totally different experience, I rather burn my coils faster and get that nice hits..coils are cheap anyway.
bcartervol98 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Well.. they are well off, the difference is massive. As soon as you crank the power up is a totally different experience, I rather burn my coils faster and get that nice hits..coils are cheap anyway.Exactly, especially when you use KPT single coils lol. The slightest drop in performance and I just toss it and pop a new one on. Last week my IStick somehow came unlocked and I took a big pull at 50w with my 1.8ohm coil and after I was done gagging, the coil had to be laid to rest. Fried that *****. cesar 1
Earthling789 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Yes, the charts a guideline to keep you in the 8W range, if memory serves... But we all know that not all juices like 8W... some like 12W, some turn to charcoal at 5W... so that is why we say 'sweet-spot'... start low, and keep turning it up until you get a burnt flavor, and back it down a notch or two... What gets me is one of my ADV's is best at 14W +/- a Watt or two... and the other can't be pushed over 9W... so when I put the wrong tank on the wrong battery, I sometimes get a huge surprise (and a crudded-up coil)... cesar 1
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 Yes, the charts a guideline to keep you in the 8W range, if memory serves... But we all know that not all juices like 8W... some like 12W, some turn to charcoal at 5W... so that is why we say 'sweet-spot'... start low, and keep turning it up until you get a burnt flavor, and back it down a notch or two... What gets me is one of my ADV's is best at 14W +/- a Watt or two... and the other can't be pushed over 9W... so when I put the wrong tank on the wrong battery, I sometimes get a huge surprise (and a crudded-up coil)... That's a good point too, I recently changed my e-liquid to one with higher resistance, from 1.8 to 2.20, my tank seems to like that resistance better.
Rixter Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 These charts were designed to keep you from popping a coil on a cartomizer or drip atomizer back when they were pretty much your only options. With the materials being used at that time, you couldn't put much more than 8 watts to your carto's/atty's coil.
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) So that charts are off date ?...maybe someone should make a more up to date chart..they are confusing, specially for noob vapers. Edited August 1, 2015 by cesar
cany Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 If someone already knows their "sweet spot" is the chart really necessary
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) If someone already knows their "sweet spot" is the chart really necessaryI think they are, considering that I was given the completely wrong information in my local vape shop.... they using that charts to train their employees. Edited August 1, 2015 by cesar
cany Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) I think they are, considering that I was given the completely wrong information in my local vape shop.... they using that charts to train their employees.Just curious if you were given completely wrong information How did you find your "sweet spot" Edited August 1, 2015 by cany
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 Just curious if you were given completely wrong information How did you find your "sweet spot"??By accident...I got distracted when I was setting my power and I didn't realize that was set to max... d'oh!
cany Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 By accident...I got distracted when I was setting my power and I didn't realize that was set to max... d'oh!And that was how long ago??
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 And that was how long ago??Does it matters ? I never said anything about sweet spots....I was talking about tank performance, I'm to old and wise for silly forum traps.
cany Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Does it matters ? I never said anything about sweet spots....I was talking about tank performance, I'm to old and wise for silly forum traps.Wouldnt tank performance be related to the "Sweet spot"
cesar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 Wouldnt tank performance be related to the "Sweet spot" Not really..the sweet spot is also about the way you vape. To me the optimal settings for your tank, is not the sweet spot... is just the " optimal " settings.
cany Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Not really..the sweet spot is also about the way you vape. To me the optimal settings for your tank, is not the sweet spot... is just the " optimal " settings.Dont you adjust your V/W to find your ":sweet spot"??
Earthling789 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Not really..the sweet spot is also about the way you vape. To me the optimal settings for your tank, is not the sweet spot... is just the " optimal " settings.That's just it Cesar... there is no "optimal" spot for ANY tank these days... juice is so different, and coils are so varied... there just isn't a set-in-stone rule that says the KPT2 should be set at 8W or 4.1V or 400-deg... The juice/tank/coil combo determines the sweet-spot, which IS the optimal setting for that combo.Same juice in my KPT2, Nautilus, and Russian.... all preferred different Wattage settings to get the same vape. And, they were ALL using the exact same (or very close) resistances!
cany Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 That's just it Cesar... there is no "optimal" spot for ANY tank these days... juice is so different, and coils are so varied... there just isn't a set-in-stone rule that says the KPT2 should be set at 8W or 4.1V or 400-deg... The juice/tank/coil combo determines the sweet-spot, which IS the optimal setting for that combo.Same juice in my KPT2, Nautilus, and Russian.... all preferred different Wattage settings to get the same vape. And, they were ALL using the exact same (or very close) resistances!The voice of Wisdom
spydre Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 If someone already knows their "sweet spot" is the chart really necessaryI think they are, especially for newbies. But another thing to remember is that with ENOUGH airflow (and some tanks are made with the proper airflow to avoid burning the juice), you aren't going to burn your juice. My sister's vaping at 50 watts right now, but she has a tank that was built for it - I think it's the HOrizon Arctic. I think, depending on your coil selection, you can go up to 100 watts with that tank, DEPENDING ON your choice of APV's - such as it's not suggested that you use it for high wattage on a standard APV, but one that's built to go in that range. My sis has, I think, the iStick 50 Watt.
cany Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I think they are, especially for newbies. But another thing to remember is that with ENOUGH airflow (and some tanks are made with the proper airflow to avoid burning the juice), you aren't going to burn your juice. My sister's vaping at 50 watts right now, but she has a tank that was built for it - I think it's the HOrizon Arctic. I think, depending on your coil selection, you can go up to 100 watts with that tank, DEPENDING ON your choice of APV's - such as it's not suggested that you use it for high wattage on a standard APV, but one that's built to go in that range. My sis has, I think, the iStick 50 Watt.Point taken................... But with the new tanks/mods out the charts are kinda out dated especially with someone whos already figured out their tanks "sweet spots'
Tam Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I think they are, considering that I was given the completely wrong information in my local vape shop.... they using that charts to train their employees.By all means, feel free to update and create your own voltage chart. Earthling789 1
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