Rixter Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) AND it's less than half the price of the Vaporshark RDNA...under $70! Edited April 13, 2015 by Rixter texassmokes 1
WillBlack Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Seems nice, the reviewer though is a twit. texassmokes 1
Rixter Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 Seems nice, the reviewer though is a twit. Doesn't seem to grasp the significance of temperature control, does he? texassmokes 1
Tam Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Bcarter should be all over this with warmer weather coming. He was just asking if anyone knew of something that was waterproof. texassmokes 1
vaping_jake Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 definitely interesting, i wasnt crazy about the blue but the grey and black arent so bad texassmokes 1
DragonGunner Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 It's different. I'll wait out on this one for the time being. Not enough rain in Iraq. texassmokes 1
Rixter Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 For me, it's not about the water resistance...it's the fact that it's got temp control for under $70. That makes it hard to pass up. No more dry hits or scorched cotton wicks. texassmokes 1
bcartervol98 Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Not what I am looking for but pretty cool. IPX4 is still not technically waterproof lol. Looks pretty cool though! texassmokes 1
DragonGunner Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 For me, it's not about the water resistance...it's the fact that it's got temp control for under $70. That makes it hard to pass up. No more dry hits or scorched cotton wicks. That is true Rixter. Temp control for under $70 is quite amazing. Hope this will drop the prices down on some of the other temp control devices out there some. But I doubt it. texassmokes 1
Bebop Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Ok. Clue me in. What is temperature control and how does it work? texassmokes 1
cany Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Ok. Clue me in. What is temperature control and how does it work? Glad you asked :animier: texassmokes 1
Rixter Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Ok. Clue me in. What is temperature control and how does it work? Temperature control is like a speed limit. You set your temp limit for just below the flash point of your wick and it keeps it from burning. You can press the fire button with a completely dry cotton wick and you won't burn it. Dry hits are so painful because when there's no juice in the wick, it starts to char. No more dry hits with temp control. Edited April 13, 2015 by Rixter Bebop and texassmokes 2
cany Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 The more I look at it the more I want it lol texassmokes 1
Bebop Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Temperature control is like a speed limit. You set your temp limit for just below the flash point of your wick and it keeps it from burning. You can press the fire button with a completely dry cotton wick and you won't burn it. Dry hits are so painful because when there's no juice in the wick, it starts to char. No more dry hits with temp control. Interesting. Is it automatic? In other words does it adjust for change in coil resistance? Or maybe I should ask - does it limit by voltage or by actual temperature, and how does it sense this? Just curious. texassmokes 1
vaping_jake Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 i am not an expert in temperature control but my basic understanding so far is that nickel wire has properties that its resistance changes with heat. The chip continuously monitors the resistance of the coil and determines the temperature based on on that. If you use Kanthal, wire temperature control wont work since the resistance is constant. So since the unit wont let the coil ever get hot enough, in theory you should never burn your cotton. As your wic holds less juic, the heat rises quicker and thus the unit stops current flow. Formaldehyde and acetaldehyde are believed to be by products when PG|VG break down from high temperatures, again in theory temperature control should eliminate this. As your wic dries up the pg/vg left over/residue will burn at higher temperatures if the temperatures are high enough you get the unwanted byproducts. My question is what is the magic temperature you should avoid. I cant seem to find any research paper done with a qualified testing procedure. Sorry if i went off track, perhaps i should have answered this prior to my scotch. texassmokes 1
vaping_jake Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Rixter thanks for the video. I wish i could hear what he says, he sounds informative. Maybe my next purchase should not be vaping gear but a hearing aid as my wife keeps yelling at me and my responce to her is what did you say? ;-) texassmokes 1
Bebop Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Sorry I just saw you posted a video Rixter. I'll check that out. It would seem to follow that if the coil is so regulated, that it would be the equivalent of just vaping with lower voltages. Perhaps this is not an issue with lightweight vaping gear - 1.8 coils running 3.7 V, for example. Doesn't seem like you'd run in to temperature problems at 8 or 9 watts. texassmokes 1
Rixter Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 Even at lower voltages, when the wick dries out, the temperature of the coil skyrockets. TC effectively prevents that from happening by limiting the max temp to whatever you set for a limit. Ive heard that 420F is what most people use to prevent cotton wicking from burning. texassmokes 1
Bebop Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 I get it now, Rixter. Thanks! One of the beauties of this device is how airflow plays on temperature. Less airflow means more temperature. Dryness means more temperature. So this unit corrects for that automatically. That is awesome. I used to wonder why my wife was harder on coils than I am. Now I see the difference in vaping styles. I like an airy pull. My wife tends to just fire the coil and nurse the pull. This would correct that automatically. This is pretty awesome. texassmokes 1
WillBlack Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 There is also this reasonably priced alternative. http://www.vaportekusa.com/hcigar-dna-40-authentic-evolv/ The advantages are a spring loaded 510 pin, inbuilt charging and venting. Note venting will help to keep the chip assembly running cooler. texassmokes 1
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