New Cisco Spec HH.357 frustration

[m.scott]

I got my hands on a long barrel HH .357 and I can't get this thing to taste good and make good vapor. I'm using this on a Turtle Ship mech with a fresh battery.

1. I blew out the primer, dripped a few drops of juice (tried 3 or 4 juices), take a hit, and repeated several times and it tastes like crap.

2. The vapor production is seriously lacking. I though maybe I was flooding the atty so I varied the amount I dripped and tried "power Vaping" to see if I can burn up the excess juice but no dice. It went from gurgle to dry hit without making the vapor I know this is capable of.

What am I doing wrong?

[Tam]

What ohm is the atty? Also, you said that you're using the HH.357 on a mech mod and not a variable voltage battery?

[Bebop]

When u say "got your hands on" is it used?

[m.scott]

It's a new @ 1.5ohm. I can't remember exactly what my battery was putting out but I was at about 10 watts. I thought that maybe it was too much but other than stressing the coil and maybe burning the juice it shouldn't result in what I'm experiencing. I wasn't getting a burnt taste. Plus if anything the higher wattage should put out more vapor right?

I'm a little new to all this so I'm just trying to put the pieces together. Thanks for the help.

[Tam]

All HH.357 atomizers require a break in period, it could be from a few minutes of vaping to half an hour or so. You could be at the beginning of this period. Have you read the directions on Avid Vapers' site? If it still does not perform well I would open a support ticket with them.

HH.357s are all I use for direct dripping (I'm using one now), and the only time I've ever had problems with one, Hana rebuilt it for me and sent it back. Their customer service is excellent!

ETA: With an HH.357, these atomizers have a learning curve all their own in addition to the learning curve on a regular atomizer, which is why I never recommend them to new users. I only use my HH.357s on variable voltage batteries. Mine are usually custom at 2.0 ohms and I vape them at 4.3v.

Edited June 29, 2014 by Tameiki

[m.scott]

Interesting. Thanks for the info. I'll work with it some more to try and break it in before giving up. So much for an easy dripping setup haha. Maybe I should have just started dripping on an RDA. Live and learn.

[Tam]

With an RDA there's an even steeper learning curve. You also need more supplies and equipment like a dedicated ohm meter. That's your first purchase even before getting the RDA, wire, wicking, torch, etc. Never trust an APV to read the ohms for you because those are not accurate nor consistent.

An RDA is not easier than a regular atomizer, however, I would suggest getting a regular 510 atomizer (either bridged or bridgeless) to learn how to direct drip before getting into an HH.357. Always do research before starting to get into something new. Everything with vaping has a learning curve to it, some just have more than others.

[jasonculp]

With an RDA there's an even steeper learning curve. You also need more supplies and equipment like a dedicated ohm meter. That's your first purchase even before getting the RDA, wire, wicking, torch, etc. Never trust an APV to read the ohms for you because those are not accurate nor consistent.

An RDA is not easier than a regular atomizer, however, I would suggest getting a regular 510 atomizer (either bridged or bridgeless) to learn how to direct drip before getting into an HH.357. Always do research before starting to get into something new. Everything with vaping has a learning curve to it, some just have more than others.

@Tameiki Could you suggest a 510 atomizer? I see them here in the Vapor Talk Store, but don't have a clue what I need. I have heard many great things about the HH.357 and have wanted one, I just have not pulled the trigger yet. I have watched a few youtube videos, but still feel totally clueless.

[Tam]

@Tameiki Could you suggest a 510 atomizer? I see them here in the Vapor Talk Store, but don't have a clue what I need. I have heard many great things about the HH.357 and have wanted one, I just have not pulled the trigger yet. I have watched a few youtube videos, but still feel totally clueless.

I'd go with a low resistance atomizer to start. The link goes to the Vapor Talk store where they have one with a bridge. Whether you go bridged or bridgeless is up to you and personal preference, imo. If you decide to go direct dripping, you most definitely need a drip shield to cover the atomizer. If you don't you're going to have juice running down your fingers, on your battery...it's a mess and not worthwhile without out it.

Before I derail this thread even more, how about if you start a new thread with your specific question and we can go into much more detail there. Other new vapers might also want to try it too.

ETA: I guess it helps at add the link: https://www.vaportalkstore.com/510-Atomizer-Low-Resistance-p/510-atomizer-lr.htm

Edited June 29, 2014 by Tameiki

[m.scott]

Ok it seems that I've gotten the hang of this .357. I just vaped on it a while and the vapor and flavor improved dramatically.

@Tameiki: Also, to be honest, your comment on doing research came across a little condescending. It's the internet so I'm sure it sounds worse in my head than you intended and you were helpful so I'll just leave it there.

This .357 is pretty awesome though. Great flavor. I'd say it almost beats my Russian 91. Other than getting hot, which the drip shield takes care of, I'm enjoying this quite a bit. Cheers, thanks for the help.

[Tam]

Ok it seems that I've gotten the hang of this .357. I just vaped on it a while and the vapor and flavor improved dramatically.

@Tameiki: Also, to be honest, your comment on doing research came across a little condescending. It's the internet so I'm sure it sounds worse in my head than you intended and you were helpful so I'll just leave it there.

This .357 is pretty awesome though. Great flavor. I'd say it almost beats my Russian 91. Other than getting hot, which the drip shield takes care of, I'm enjoying this quite a bit. Cheers, thanks for the help.

Glad you got through the break in period and it's working well for you.

No, my comment was not meant to be condescending, just instructional. I'm sorry if it came across wrong. Building coils and learning about which batteries can handle sub ohm, Ohm's Law, the correct materials to use, all kinds of safety factors all go into building coils for RDAs. Too often we see people coming on to the forum who do not have an ohm meter to check their build before trying it out or using an APV (which are not accurate), and thinking that's okay. That's why many of us stress doing research to learn as much as you can in order to stay safe. I'm still learning about different aspects of this new hobby and research has been very helpful for me. This statement and added explanation are also meant in a friendly, instructional vein.