Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Does anyone know the max Amps for The kamry 18650 3.7v battery?
Joshuab3687 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I can't find the specs for it. If you're planning on sub ohming, stay safe and get the sony vtc4
Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 I can't find the specs for it. If you're planning on sub ohming, stay safe and get the sony vtc4 Neither can i, even looked on the Kamry website. And no i have a 1.2 ohm build right now. I just wanted to know what it was. For future reference.
Joshuab3687 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 When in doubt, lowball it at 20a. It may be a 30a, but until you're certain, treat it as a 20a. You can still sub with it, but I wouldn't go lower than .7
Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 When in doubt, lowball it at 20a. It may be a 30a, but until you're certain, treat it as a 20a. You can still sub with it, but I wouldn't go lower than .7 Alright, thanks for the advise
Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 I honestly don't even think i could get lower than .9 lol i haven't been able to, I,m using 28 gauge kanthal on a Patriot.
Compenstine Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Do you have any pictures of that battery? Some are only 10a maybe I could do some searches and find some info on it for you. If is has a sticker on it you may want to peel it back and see if there are any numbers under it.
Joshuab3687 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Good catch Comp! I forgot that there are some 10a 18650's out there
Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 Do you have any pictures of that battery? Some are only 10a maybe I could do some searches and find some info on it for you. If is has a sticker on it you may want to peel it back and see if there are any numbers under it.
Compenstine Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Looks like they put their own shrink wrap on... That will be a tough one to search. I'll see if I can find any info on it. If I can at least find out who made it for them it would help.
Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 I took the shrink wrap off to find there is a code printed on it "13J17"
Justin_Knuth Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 gonna wrap it in electrical tape now, don't want the damn thing to be firing off in my pocket.
Vispera Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 gonna wrap it in electrical tape now, don't want the damn thing to be firing off in my pocket. All I can say is stay above 1.0 ohms and your good I had to junk one of mine I went to .8 and it heated up
Tam Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Just checked to see what batteries came in my Kamry K100 and it's a TrustFire TR18650 2500 mAh 3.7 volt battery. The other one is an ICR 18350 900 mAh 3.7 volt. Both are clearly labled on mine.
Compenstine Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 That was a huge help Tam thank you. I had searched half the day and couldn't find that. Knowing this I would definitely suggest to stay above 1.0ohms. Tam 1
Tam Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 That was a huge help Tam thank you. I had searched half the day and couldn't find that. Knowing this I would definitely suggest to stay above 1.0ohms. If I were to use one of the Sony batteries you just sent out I should be fine sub-ohming on my K100, right? Vispera 1
joejoevapekins Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 If I were to use one of the Sony batteries you just sent out I should be fine sub-ohming on my K100, right? all the way down to .1ish lol. Almost a dead short and these bad boys are still pumping out the juice Tam 1
Joshuab3687 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 I've went down as low as 0.097 on with my sony vtc4's with no problem! Tam 1
WillBlack Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) Neither can i, even looked on the Kamry website. And no i have a 1.2 ohm build right now. I just wanted to know what it was. For future reference. Your 1.2Ω build is no big deal, you are are only pulling about 3A. As far as amp ratings, they seldom tell the full story. A minor league manufacturer like Sony (after all these years has an insignificant 8% share in the worldwide market) seems to play fast loose with their ratings. It's interesting to note that in the specsheet for the VTC4 Sony never once specifically claims a 30A Max Continuous Rate. Real tests tell the true story. The Sony should be considered a 20A MCR battery. This is 5A test about a ~.7Ω load. http://dampfakkus.de/akkuvergleich.php?akku1=490&akku2=485&akku3=&akku4=&akku5=&akku6=&a=5 The Samsung (#1 in worldwide sales) is 'only' 20A rated battery. Edited March 29, 2014 by WillBlack
Joshuab3687 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Will, while I appreciate your indepth knowledge, those graphs are gobbledy-guk to me. I have to tell you that those samsungs you are so proud of start getting very hot when I'm sub ohming. I no longer use them for any builds lower than 0.8. Your stats may show better results, but I won't put my safety second to those graphs. My sony VTC4's may not be shown in a good light in any of the stats you have, but they don't get hot when I'm down into the 0.3 and below range. And I haven't noticed any appreciable lack of performance. Just my 2cents joejoevapekins 1
joejoevapekins Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Will, while I appreciate your indepth knowledge, those graphs are gobbledy-guk to me. I have to tell you that those samsungs you are so proud of start getting very hot when I'm sub ohming. I no longer use them for any builds lower than 0.8. Your stats may show better results, but I won't put my safety second to those graphs. My sony VTC4's may not be shown in a good light in any of the stats you have, but they don't get hot when I'm down into the 0.3 and below range. And I haven't noticed any appreciable lack of performance. Just my 2cents And those sonys can handle one hell of a load. At half ohm it only drops about .08-.19 volts. They are beasts. May go get some vtc5s next
Justin_Knuth Posted March 30, 2014 Author Posted March 30, 2014 Just checked to see what batteries came in my Kamry K100 and it's a TrustFire TR18650 2500 mAh 3.7 volt battery. The other one is an ICR 18350 900 mAh 3.7 volt. Both are clearly labled on mine. i dont think these are the same as the ones that come with mine, I'm going to keep it below 10a just in cause its pushing 4.666 right now at .9 ohm's
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