Bebop Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Cool thanks. I'm ordering wick and wire today and then I'll start playing with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rixter Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) All of mine are either in use or already rebuilt, but the next time I do some up, I'll try 5/4 & 6/5 to see what that meters out to be. I just rolled a 5/4 for the missus' EVOD. It metered a little high dry (2.8Ω), but after filling the tank and firing it a couple of times, it's now reading a consistent 2.2Ω on the ZMAX. I'd say a 5/4 of 32g Kanthal A-1 around a 3.5mm silica wick (with sewing needle support) should be a good starting point for you to get 2.2Ω. Based on these results, I'd say that each additional wrap will add ±.4Ω to the total resistance of the coil. Edited September 14, 2013 by Rixter Tam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonGunner Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm also gonna toy around as well. I'm gonna try a 5/3 and a 6/3 to see what I get. Interesting this stuff is. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebop Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I just rolled a 5/4 for the missus' EVOD. It metered a little high dry (2.8Ω), but after filling the tank and firing it a couple of times, it's now reading a consistent 2.2Ω on the ZMAX. I'd say a 5/4 of 32g Kanthal A-1 around a 3.5mm silica wick (with sewing needle support) should be a good starting point for you to get 2.2Ω. Based on these results, I'd say that each additional wrap will add ±.4Ω to the total resistance of the coil. Wow. Thanks for checking it out! That's helpful. Thanks Rixter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Rutez Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) I just rebuilt my Pro Tank 2 coil with a 28g Kanthal 12 wrap micro coil (1.8ohm), and a cotton wick. No more burnt hits, and amazing flavor and vapor. I used a 5/64 drill bit to wrap my coil, then compressed it with tweezers and torched it real good. Worked like a charm. Next one will be a 1.1ohm nano coil, but I need to find a 20g syringe to wrap it with. By the way, AWESOME pic tutorial Rixter! Edited September 17, 2013 by 3Rutez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebop Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Compressed it lengthwise and torched while on drill bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Rutez Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Wrapped it on the drill bit, removed it and then used the tweezers and torch. Gotta be careful not to squeeze too hard, as to bend the coil. Just enough pressure to compress so when the coils heat up, they retain their position after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebop Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 So then how you pull wick thru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Rutez Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Take a cotton ball, pull it apart. Get a thin piece, roll it between fingers, slide it through, then trim the excess. Place another over the coil and drip some juice to saturate it. Pop the stem on, screw back into base and bam. The flavor and vapor is unmatched using cotton over silica IMO. With the stock wick and coil, I was getting a burnt/dry hit if I didn't prime it in between vapes. With the cotton, it's clean every time. These are only my observations. Different strokes for different folks. Edited September 18, 2013 by 3Rutez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebop Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I get it. Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneranger721981 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Just dry burned my davide head to clean it and decided to put cotton over the silica wickwd coil to see what happened. I am blowing out clouds! !!!! I never expected a cotton ball to be the answer. Much more flavor too. I may take the silica out later and put in another cotton strand. Thanks for all the info rixter. Tam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rixter Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's nice to see so many variations on coil rebuilding popping up around the forum. I've been wanting to do some experimenting with micro-coils for some time now, so it looks like I'm going to be busy trying some new methods out this weekend. Good job, vapers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXEAGLE Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Just dry burned my davide head to clean it and decided to put cotton over the silica wickwd coil to see what happened. I am blowing out clouds! !!!! I never expected a cotton ball to be the answer. Much more flavor too. I may take the silica out later and put in another cotton strand. Thanks for all the info rixter. Are you using the Cotton as a flavor wick? just wondering as I am thinking about trying to rebuild some of my protank heads when I can get my hands on some supplies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneranger721981 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I started putting the cotton as the flavor wick itself. I have silica in the coil and the cotton on top of it. You cant make the cotton too thick because it restricts the juice flow. If it is too thin you get leakage and gurgling. You have to figure out what size works after a few tries. It is easy to change so if it is not right just swap it out. Make sure before you put the tube back over it you put a drop or two of juice on it to prime or else you will burn the cotton. IMEDICx90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneranger721981 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Sorry for a double post, but I did some experimenting this morning. I tried a 3/2 wrap and a 4/3 wrap on some coil bodies. The 3/2 gave me a 1.4 reading and the 4/3 gave me a 1.9. I think i may be in my butter zone. It still tastes a little like metal even though i torched the crap out of it before building the coil. I have the 1.4 in my evic right now running at 3.3v and it is vapor heaven. I used a cotton coil wick and flavor wick. Thinking about trying another type of coil wick. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 If you're still tasting metal I would try a different kind of wire. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcoe Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I just rebuilt 12 coils. Took about an hour. Each reading between 2.2 and 2.5 on the Vamo. Sweet. Rixter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvape Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I just did one for my kpt2 just to see if I could, even though I mainly use my RDA. It actually came out pretty good. Had to mess with the coil a bit, I guess it was touching the side so it was reading at 0.6ohm then I slid the coil over and pushed it down a little and its now reading as 2.3ohms. The draw it a little tighter then with the Kanger coils, but that is good cause I thought the Kanger wick/coil was too airy. Rixter and rcoe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Just rebuilt my first KPT coil with a 5/4 wrap. It metered out at 2.1 ohm. Woo hoo! Thanks for the great tutorial, Rixter, it really helped a lot and it wasn't hard at all. Rixter, Proetus and rcoe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proetus Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Nice Tam! How's it performing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proetus Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Once you get comfortable with wrapping coils, give this a shot for improved vapor and flavor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Nice Tam! How's it performing? It was going great for about ten minutes and then the draw started getting tighter. Finally had to take it apart (partially), and take off the flavor wick. Must've moved the wires and shorted something out because after that I couldn't get the thing to read anything but 0.0 ohms. I'll take it apart today and play with it some more now that I've gotten over the initial hump of building the first one. Micro coils have been on my list but I need to get a torch first. *rubs hands together* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBowser Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I have an OLD Kanger that is for an eGo head. The silicon insulator is a PITB to put back in. LOL Just made a new coil for mine using 32 gauge and single 3.5mm silica wick I used a small flavor wick of cotton yarn. Only I used the Mid sized cheap eyeglass Phillips head screwdriver (the ones with the silver handles and 8 to the set)to form a 5 - 4 wrap coil. I used to use the 4-40 screw 4 - 3 wrap with 2 threads of 3 mm silica. The next one may be a wrap like yours only with 6-5 just for experimenting.The resistance went from 2.+ ohm down to 1.8 the flavor and mouth hit went way up. The cloud of vaper is so much better also. I had a new Volt Twist that developed a circuit board short and they sent me a new one telling me to keep the dead one. SO I made a wood box 18650 mod with the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunmerly Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Good idea ！Thank you for your sharing ！ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin3 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Great job on this run down! Rixter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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