Smithsonian Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I just received my iTaste VV v3.0 express kit and my Kangertech EVOD clearomizer in the mail today. I filled the EVOD, attached it to my iTaste battery, but it won't vape. When the clearomizer is not attached to the battery, the battery works normally. But when it is attached and I hit the power button, the LED turns green for 5-6 seconds instead of fading in/out as it usually should when you press/release quickly. What is the problem? Are my settings not set correctly? Do I need to try a replacement coil? I'm fairly new to these devices so any help will be appreciated.
joe2003 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Doesn't the iTaste have an ohm meter?try to see what the ohms on the coil are. Also look at the coil head to see what the ohms are listed at,if it's too low the batt will think it's a short.If you have some spare coils you could try one of those. If it measures O.K then you could try setting the itaste to it's lowest setting and see if it works.if it does then you can go up gradually until you find a spot you like or the batt stops working. Also if you have an ohm meter you could double check to see if the itaste is reading properly. If not then you may need to contact your vendor. HTH
Smithsonian Posted September 6, 2013 Author Posted September 6, 2013 The battery reads 1.9, the coil is listed at 1.8. I tried switching out a replacement coil. Same thing. Just a solid green for 5-6 seconds when I hit the fire button. It was reading 2.0 earlier so the readings are not consistent.
joe2003 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I think you should contact your vendor.It sounds like you may have gotten a bad batt. They may tell you to try a higher ohm coil first but the iTaste should be able to handle the 1.8. Hopefully they will be able to resolve the issue without too much hassle. If not let us know,there are certainly more knowledgeable folks here than me,who may be able to offer some solutions.
Smithsonian Posted September 6, 2013 Author Posted September 6, 2013 I will contact the vendor. Thank you, I'll let you know.
Smithsonian Posted September 6, 2013 Author Posted September 6, 2013 Well, my mod works now. I honestly have no idea why it wasn't cooperating yesterday, but today I said what the hell and tried it again, and now it's vaping great. Thanks for all the help. This site is awesome and I'll write some reviews on this mod, and in the future I've decided I'm better off coming here for customer support than the actual manufacturer or vendor lol. Go figure.
joe2003 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Congrats! Glad it's workin for ya ,hope the issue doesn't come back lol
Bebop Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Thanks for all the help. This site is awesome and I'll write some reviews on this mod, and in the future I've decided I'm better off coming here for customer support than the actual manufacturer or vendor lol. Go figure. This IS the best support in town!
Smithsonian Posted September 7, 2013 Author Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) I lied... the same problem keeps arising. Let me refresh and give you some more info to see what you think. So when my clearomizer is not attached to the battery, the battery works fine and appears to be functioning properly. I've charged it fully, so the batt life isn't the problem. But when I do attach the clearomizer, and when it does vape, I have it on the lowest setting (3.3V, 6.0W) and the flavor seems okay but a bit dull. Vapor production seemed to be fine, but when I started to work my way up in V and W, the flavor got plain and eventually tasted burnt. I'm not sure if I'm getting what they call "dry hits" or what, I'm dumbfounded about this issue. I have no other batts or atties to test with which sucks. Also, when I come across the problem of the atty not vaping at all, instead of the fire button LED fading in/out, it turns a solid green for 5-6 seconds. Supposedly the solid green indicates the batt is above 70% life. It won't fire at all. It won't power on/off either while the atty is attached. Maybe the clearomizer is faulty and not the battery? I ordered an additional one and a pack of 2.5ohm coils. I'm wondering if my current 1.8ohm coils are too low for the device, but I got higher res coils so I can really turn my batt up. I tried switching out the one 1.8ohm replacement coil I had but it didn't fix the problem. I disassembled my coils and rinsed them off and dried them thoroughly and dry burned them a bit to erase the flavors before switching. I heard in a few places that some people remove one or both of the "flavor wicks" that sit above the main coil and wick to fix burnt or dry hits. I removed one wick but eventually it started getting dry and burnt again. This is all I can think of right now, what do you think? The vendor I bought these devices from is litecigusa.net. I gave them all or most of this info, and they have responded with this: "Unfortunately USPS first class mail, and priority mail are not guaranteed. The USPS express mail, and UPS shipping options are though. The resistance is going to always fluctuate. That is normal on any atomizer etc... It will slowly oxidize with use, it will change depending on temperature etc..." and "The solid green is just showing that it is above 70 percent charge." Edited September 7, 2013 by Smithsonian
Bebop Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 It sounds like 2 things 1) you are cranking up the voltage too high for that coil (1.8) on that coil I would expect you to taste burnt at 3.6 or higher. You may have also permanently burnt your coil/wick at too high a voltage and no amount of cleaning or dry burning is going to fix that once the coil is burnt. In that device I would recommend 2.5ohm coils 2) different juices have different flow rates. You don't specify what juice you have and you may not know. Continually hitting a "slow" juice at high voltage will produce dry hits and too many dry hits will burn that coil and lead to problem 1. Dry burning is a very quick process and used very sparingly if needed at all. I suspect you have burnt your coil. The battery device sounds like its working properly
Smithsonian Posted September 7, 2013 Author Posted September 7, 2013 I have 50VG/50PG juice from ecblends.com. I had my voltage and wattage down all the way (3.3, 6.0) when I was vaping at first and I didn't crank it up too high while I was increasing. I quickly dry burned it a few times, with the V/W all the way down, only firing it for 2-3 secs a few times. I looked at the coil/wick and it looked clean and not charred or burned. The flavor wicks actually looked untouched in both coils even after I vaped them with clear and carmel colored liquids.
Bebop Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) The flavor wicks actually looked untouched in both coils even after I vaped them with clear and carmel colored liquids. Do you mean that literally? Like the juice is not even getting to the coil? Edited September 7, 2013 by Bebop12
Smithsonian Posted September 7, 2013 Author Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) The ends that stick out are getting hit by the liquid, but it didn't look like the flavors wicks and the main wick/coil were hit at all when I popped off the post and looked inside. Edited September 7, 2013 by Smithsonian
joe2003 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 I think you will need to remove at least 1 of the flavor wicks it sounds like the juice is too thick to wick The Evod usually has 2 or 3 wicks plus the one inside the coil. Try removing them one at a time until you get good wicking but if you remove too many it will flood so keep up with them so you can put one back if needed. As far as the way the batt is acting,I think you are hitting the amp limits with those 1.8 coils.Since you have the 2.5's you'll prolly get better service from those. And as the E-mail from your vendor said it's not unusual for the ohms of the coils to fluctuate a few tenths.Dry coils measure different from wet etc...
Smithsonian Posted September 7, 2013 Author Posted September 7, 2013 I see, yeah I can't really crank up the V/W with the 1.8's, hopefully those 2.5's will arrive sooner than later. I did remove one wick from the coil but it tasted dry when I had it on low settings. I'm confused, hopefully the 2.5's will solve the problem. As far as the vendor's customer service goes, I'll have to call in on Monday so I can communicate better with them. My buddy who recommended the setup told me to get 1.8's, even though in his exact same mod he had 2.0's... 2.0's would've probably worked better idk why he told me to get 1.8's. Anyway I'll keep you posted once I find out some more info and test out the 2.5's. The other thing is... I hear that people enjoy different liquids at different V/W, all by preference. I can't really increase and test the 1.8's anyway cause the batt can turn up fairly strong.
Bebop Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Joe2003 advice is good. I think you will notice an improvement with new coils. 50/50 is a little thick but should be fine with a properly working coil
IMEDICx90 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 i disagree with the juice being too thick... i use 100% vg in every tank or clearo i have and i have no issues what so ever. so it might be just THAT particular juice that isnt wicking well. ask Bcarter about his strawberry fields... it just doesnt like to wick. and his is 70/30 pg/vg i believe.
Smithsonian Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 The main issue I'm having really is the batt isn't working at certain times with the clearo. It'll work fine and I'll be vaping at 3.3 or 3.4V and 6.0-7.5W, but the flavor will not be strong nor will the vapor. And when it starts to not work again it won't let me fire it at all, like it's sensing the ohms are too low, even though the battery reads 1.9-2.0. The battery may be faulty, because I've noticed other weird things like it'll say the battery V are full but then I'll get a red LED indicating I need to charge it. After I throw it on the charger for a bit it'll show green again. And I've tried a few of my 50/50 juices but the problem is the same.
Bebop Posted September 9, 2013 Posted September 9, 2013 Start with a new coil. All of those conditions you describe could be caused by a faulty coil. That's the easiest place to start. And make sure your coil is seated firmly
Smithsonian Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 Well, all is well. I found out my battery had a manufacturer defect and got a replacement. As for the EVOD's, I experienced some dry and burnt taste even with the working battery set at low-medium voltage. I found out that higher VG juices flow very slowly especially in bottom coil atomizers like the EVOD, and I was using 50/50. By removing one of the top "flavor wicks" it allows the juice to flow more freely and can bring you success if you experience the same problem. You can also remove both top wicks, although you may experience some leaking, which can be fixed by simply putting one back in. I also realized that VV and VW are two separate modes! I thought they worked simultaneously and there I was overthinking it, staring at a power chart trying to match the settings perfectly. Thanks again for all of your help. I hope this helps others in the future with the same problem. I felt your pain!
WillBlack Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Every talks like VG ratios are somehow some set standard of judging viscosity, that's simply not true. Some concentrated flavorings can be mixed @ ~3% while others may need up to 25% and lets add a little sucralose to the mix. The viscosity will be different. The first glycerin I bought was "aqueous glycerin" meaning water had been added to it. Adding a few drops of water to VG goes a long way towards helping with flow problems. It also helps to lower the vaporization temp a bit.
Bebop Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 That's intetesting because I swear I have had some vapes where I felt I could taste water.....
olivestab Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 This is weird, I made an account just for the same reason. The same exact issue is happening with me. My battery works just fine with no top, AND with the original plastic wicked top, but nothing with the EVOD. It seems you are using a bigger device than I am, I only have a small common sized battery from buck naked. I just made a topic about it.
cYcLoNe675 Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 This one is easy, grab some tweezers and pull the pin on your EVOD. (the center most metal ring where it makes contact with the battery) Meanwhile, a warning. DO NOT PULL THE USB CHARGING CABLE OUT TOO ROUGH! My whole bottom assembly pulled out with the USB attatched and now it's gone all wonky on VW mode. It's only held in with hot glue, FML.
mj17cherries Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 I had the same problem and saw this conversation while trying to figure out what the problem was. I realized it was because the tank was screwed on too tight. I loosened it a little bit, just ever so slightly, and it works now.
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