jmhester Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I was at my doctor's office awhile back and was showing him my e-cig which he heartily endorsed. Obviously, he was pleased I had stop smoking. His only reservation was that nicotine was linked to pancreatic cancer and that made me a little nervouse. I did a little research and found this on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco-specific_nitrosamines Apparently, it's not the nicotine itself that causes the cancer but the compounds formed when the tobacco is cured and processed. Obviously, our juice doesn't come from these sources so it's a pretty good bet that we are OK on this issue. Just thought I would share this in case others have heard about this warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasVaper Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Obviously, our juice doesn't come from these sources so it's a pretty good bet that we are OK on this issue. So where does the nicotine come from then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmel Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I was at my doctor's office awhile back and was showing him my e-cig which he heartily endorsed. Obviously, he was pleased I had stop smoking. His only reservation was that nicotine was linked to pancreatic cancer and that made me a little nervouse. I did a little research and found this on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco-specific_nitrosamines Apparently, it's not the nicotine itself that causes the cancer but the compounds formed when the tobacco is cured and processed. Obviously, our juice doesn't come from these sources so it's a pretty good bet that we are OK on this issue. Just thought I would share this in case others have heard about this warning. Actually, from what I have read most smoke juice does contain "nitrosamines" -- virtually all nicotine does. But according to the New Zealand Study, the level of nitrosamines in the Ruyan e cig were so low that they are not carcinogenic: Tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) were found, equal to 8 ng, in the 1 g of liquid of the 16 mg cartridge. This amount is extremely small, equal for example, to the amount reported to be present in a nicotine medicinal patch. (8 ng in 1g = eight parts per trillion). 2) These very small amounts traces are likely to be due to the fact that even medicinal grade nicotine is extracted from tobacco. 3) The level in the 16 mg nicotine cartridge, for example, is 31 times the level in the 0 mg cartridge. On a daily dose basis, TSNAs in the 16 mg nicotine e-cartridge are 1200 times less than in the tobacco of 20 manufactured cigarettes, and 3000 times less than the daily dose in a can of Swedish moist snuff.14 Conclusion. The Ruyan® e-cigarette cartridge does not contain carcinogenic levels of TSNAs, in that no product containing these trace levels has been shown to cause cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVaper Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Kmel & jmhester, This is great information, and thanks so much for posting it. The more we as e-cig users know about these products, the better we're able to counter misinformation and misunderstanding. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmel Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Kmel & jmhester, This is great information, and thanks so much for posting it. The more we as e-cig users know about these products, the better we're able to counter misinformation and misunderstanding. Keep up the good work! You're welcome Darth! I am educating myself, too. Here's another article that I sent to Lacey today. The relative risks of a low-nitrosamine smokeless tobacco product compared with smoking cigarettes: estimates of a panel of experts What this article means is that if e cigs are equally low in nitrosamines or even lower, the FDA can't waive that "cancer causing nitrosamines" e cig report around and get logical people to believe it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmokingMan Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 You're welcome Darth! I am educating myself, too. Here's another article that I sent to Lacey today. The relative risks of a low-nitrosamine smokeless tobacco product compared with smoking cigarettes: estimates of a panel of experts What this article means is that if e cigs are equally low in nitrosamines or even lower, the FDA can't waive that "cancer causing nitrosamines" e cig report around and get logical people to believe it anymore. They can and will wave it if it's all they've got as evidence. The US governmental agencies that regulate stuff have never acknowledged sources outside the US or outside their own approved sources for information supportive or not of their position. Look at homeopathic medicine or experimental AIDS or cancer treatments in Europe that are working but not approved here in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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