mega Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 physicallly I dont think my lungs could handle it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soberrider Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'm trying to find an scientific study article that shared the findings on the amount of nicotine only being 1/3 to 1/2 the amount of a regular cigarette. I'll post if I find it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soberrider Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Here is the article I was trying to find. Look under summary-findings on page 3. http://www.ecigarett...fety-report.pdf Edited February 14, 2012 by Soberrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soberrider Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'm not sure if all the info is still valid, but it seems that the cartridge they tested gave only a fraction of the nicitine as comparred to a real cig. This may be why some still experience withdrawl. I'm not sure which nicotine level cartridge they refer to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 they need to study vg more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Here is the article I was trying to find. Look under summary-findings on page 3. http://www.ecigarett...fety-report.pdf Yes, I have heard of that! It's really exciting science. From what I've read in the past week, nicotine, like most substances, requires density. Vapor is not as good a delivery system as smoke from a cigarette -- smoke is more dense. The way this Biochemistry professor tried to explain it to me, he said that smoke also gives nicotine a 'sticky' substance. As the cilia in your lungs serves to clean, filter, and absorb, smoke sticks, thereby allowing a longer lasting nicotine delivery system which damages the cilia. I'm not a Biochemist, and I'm not explaining it as concisely as she did, but it made sense. I wish there were a list of different cigarette brands and their nicotine content. Someone here said that we get about 1 mg nicotine absorption per cigarette, approximately. I would imagine that would also depend on the brand. There was also a poll on this site which asked the amount of nicotine people purchase. From what I saw, the greater number of people purchased 24 mg. So, I'm guessing, and this is just a guess, that 24 mg is the norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If big tobacco told us anything they would probably incriminate them self or put em out of business. i swear there putting stuff in no tobacco is natural. there pestacides and i doubt they wash the leaves. etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 very interesting read. http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/whatsinit.htm There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients: Ammonia: Household cleaner Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals Arsenic: Used in rat poisons Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas Cadmium: Used in batteries Cyanide: Deadly poison DDT: A banned insecticide Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals Lead: Poisonous in high doses Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens Methoprene: Insecticide Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984 Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive element Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 If big tobacco told us anything they would probably incriminate them self or put em out of business. i swear there putting stuff in no tobacco is natural. there pestacides and i doubt they wash the leaves. etc. etc. They don't wash the leaves! They sweep the floor of the remains and put it in the cigarette! Ha! I feel like I've smoked dirt.. which I'm sure is in there, along with ash.. BUT, on a positive note, I don't anymore! So happy. 2 months and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper Ron Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I've gotten wood chips in mine before too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 I've gotten wood chips in mine before too! I believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 same here. tastes horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 very interesting read. http://www.quitsmoki...m/whatsinit.htm Seriously. The sad part is, younger and dummer, I don't think knowing all of this would have stopped me. I would like to think it would have. It was a social thing. I like what they are doing in schools these days, making it sound like a disgusting habit, which it is, may be a good idea (as long as there is no cruelty to people who choose to smoke anyway) Sort of like making it 'not cool' to be a bully. Maybe it'll work. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 we all know asprin is bad for us in huge doses but we take it, alcohol we drink, etc, etc, the whole planet has an addiction to something its in our nature i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 You know what may work on college campuses or high schools? Two people kissing with someone spewing black gunk. Very unattractive, but not as graphic as the pictures they are going to put on packs of cigarettes. Youth feeling invincible and all that. Sorry for the bluntness, just saying. we all know asprin is bad for us in huge doses but we take it, alcohol we drink, etc, etc, the whole planet has an addiction to something its in our nature i guess. Agreed. Nicotine is not the demon here. It has many and varied valuable uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 i knew they could kill me but i did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamfran Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 i also have those psychological triggers like when a buddy offers you a cigarette..and old habits die hard as they say...but I just keep vaping and I like this lifestyle more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroopX Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I haven't seen much talk about the juice. What juice flavors are you vaping? I find that while I like the taste of a lot of different flavors, there are only a few that really do it for me. When you find your favorites, I think you will discover the ones that get you through the more difficult cravings. Are you trying a lot of sample sizes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 i have a daily and does me fine i diy mix all m own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 I haven't seen much talk about the juice. What juice flavors are you vaping? I find that while I like the taste of a lot of different flavors, there are only a few that really do it for me. When you find your favorites, I think you will discover the ones that get you through the more difficult cravings. Are you trying a lot of sample sizes? Sadly, I made some noobie mistakes in ordering 30 mls bottles. I haven't found those flavors that really do it for me, yet. Not for lack of trying!! Thankfully, I've been trading them off and have tried about a dozen different flavors. Still, no 'sweet spot'. I was a Menthol smoker, but you know what, for some reason, I don't crave Menthol anymore. For some reason, I just crave something regular. Flavors are great, I love Peach from Provape, and this Dekang USA Mix that some wonderful person on this site traded with me. It's really nice to know that when I do find it, it will help me through those difficult cravings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 i have a daily and does me fine i diy mix all m own. Well, one day, I hope to be as brave as you! We'll have to exchange recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 yes we will im perfecting my peacekeeper as we speak as well a new camel i made but ....... for now........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 yes we will im perfecting my peacekeeper as we speak as well a new camel i made but ....... for now........ Can't wait to try your peacekeeper. Love the name. Is it a tobacco flavor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 i also have those psychological triggers like when a buddy offers you a cigarette..and old habits die hard as they say...but I just keep vaping and I like this lifestyle more Since you've been Vaping, do you find that cigarette smoke is slow? And, if you have a cigarette, is it like you remembered? I mention it because when I ordered my first kit, since the batteries didn't last long, I had to have a cigarette every once in a while. but, after I started Vaping, it just wasn't the same. I didn't enjoy it as much. It was really frustrating. Now, I find the smell of cigarettes to be Very strong. It was so frustrating to be within two worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Can't wait to try your peacekeeper. Love the name. Is it a tobacco flavor? Can't wait to try your peacekeeper. Love the name. Is it a tobacco flavor? yep tobacco flavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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