Vapor Renu-3 Flavors

[juliery]

Where to begin....Okay, the specs...all three flavors are 16mg, 80/20 PG/VG, Medium TH, and regular flavor. Vapor Renu has MANY flavors, and ANY that you don't see, all you have to do is fill out the contact/email form and Jason will add them onto the list. ALL liquids are mixed to order as you have numerous options.....4 diff levels of TH, 3 levels of flavor strength, 4 flavorless additives thought to be healthy for lungs etc., 5 diff vg/pg blends (and I am sure if you wanted some different combo you could request it from Jason), 6 diff nic strengths including 0mg. Okay, on to the flavors.....it also bears mentioning I am using them in an 808 carto, on a 750mah battery as well as a USB PT.

White Chocolate.....AMAZING....it really tastes like creamy white chocolate! In the day I have had it, I have vaped it alone, FABULOUS, and mixed it with both the cappuccino and the pumpkin spice I already had from Vapor Renu. Mixed with the PS it is like Pumpkin Spice cheesecake, it is just really, really amazing. It is sweet, as one would expect, BUT not overpoweringly so. I ordered this for my husband actually, but he will have to fight me for it. The vapor production is great, TH is perfect (medium is what I ordered)...it is a nice TH without making my throat sore. I can already tell this will be my go-to flavor, especially to mix with things I normally only kinda like....this is fabulous mixed with other flavors, including the Double Dutch Chocolate, which I will move on to now.

Double Dutch Chocolate....first let me say, the smell is awesome. I opened the cap and was like OMG, it smells just like chocolate syrup. There is NO doubt upon smelling this what it is. Again, vapor production is great...nice big clouds of vapor. This flavor, when used in a carto needs to absorb into the filler. When I first put it in, it was a bit strange....I could only taste the chocolate on the exhale. After it sat for a couple hours it was MOST definitely chocolate on the inhale and exhale, and it has a great after taste too. I have heard that chocolate is a hard flavor to reproduce, well this is it, it is definitely chocolate. I would say it is somewhere between a regular chocolate and a dark chocolate. TH is great, same as the others, since I ordered them that way. My husband is wild over this flavor as he has been looking for a chocolate/dark chocolate but never liked any of the others we have ordered from other vendors. He is a big time chocolate lover and promptly snatched the bottle away from me.....I guess in the hopes he would get to keep ANY of the flavors for himself, teeheehee.

Cappuccino....first let me mention that Vapor Renu did not have this on their flavor list. I wrote asking if it was possible for them to make a cappuccino and Jason responded saying he had added it. As others have said, he will add anything you suggest (or at least the things that we know of being suggested). I should say right off the bat that I have been vaping cappuccino exclusively for almost 7 mos until a week ago. So I am very used to a certain kind of flavor for the cappuccino. HOWEVER, I am now over it. This cappuccino is like coffee with a dash of chocolate. It smells really good. It is not as sweet as the cappuccino I normally vaped and I am really liking that. I like sweet but I am not a big sugar person.....I don't like when it just tastes super sweet, and the sweetness is the predominant impression. I want a distinctive flavor, where I can tell them all apart from each other and identify the flavors without having to look at the label. I am sure most of you know what I mean....some vendors you really can't tell WHICH fruit you are vaping....or which sweet flavor. They just taste either fruity or sweet or some other general type thing.

I also have to say I love the labeling on the bottles. You will never have to just remember what you ordered, everything about the liquid is clearly printed on the label, including the level of TH, pg/vg blend, of course the flavor and the nic level. The date it was mixed is also clearly noted. I have other bottles from other vendors that come in little boxes and the bottles aren't labeled at all. Who wants to have to keep the bottles in boxes just to know what the heck they are????? We made the mistake of ordering 5 flavors from LeCig, none of the bottles are labeled, so I had to write the flavors on with a sharpie BUT it rubs off. Totally stupid in my opinion. I shouldn't have to label the bottle, or keep putting it back into a little box. Goofy, never seen that. (We didn't like 3 of the flavors from LeCig, so they won't be an issue. The other two are okayish mixed with other things.)

Anyway, we are going to order more from Vapor Renu.....like I am thinking the English Toffee? Heath Bar?? Mochaccino? There are SOOOO many flavors, it is hard to know where to begin....oh and FOR SURE gotta get more white chocolate RIGHT AWAY! All the liquid comes in 30ml bottles....$7.49 a bottle (can't imagine beating THAT price)....AND it is really even less because there is a coupon code for first time customers...15% off using the code "nujuice" and returning customers save 10% with the code "renu".....you just CANNOT beat the price. I am thinking it would probably cost me more if I mixed it myself.....especially with all the trial and error. There is a VERY small fee for a few of the options....if you increased EVERY single thing to the highest costing amount a 30ml bottle would be $9.74, still a GREAT price. Mine were all still $7.49 because I didn't need the most aggressive TH, or the triple flavor, etc. I can't even imagine triple flavor, the regular is plenty flavorful for me/us. So four flavors so far, four keepers....of course at that price an occasional miss I can deal with. This is the FIRST vendor where the flavors we have gotten REALLY TASTE (and smell) like what they are. I love that everything is custom mixed to order, made in the U.S.A and a phenomenal price, EXCELLENT customer service....all in all we are VERY happy and can't wait to order more!!

NOTE: I am in NO way affiliated with this company and have nothing to gain by saying positive things. Just a VERY happy customer. I wasn't given these liquids, I purchased them, and will definitely be going back for more! Duh, and the website is www.vaporrenu.com.....in case you couldn't guess that, LOL. Happy vaping!

[Jeffb]

Very thorough review. Good job Julie

[juliery]

Very thorough review. Good job Julie

Thank you.....I really have never reviewed anything before, LOL.....trying to cover every possible thing someone could want to know!!! THAT is kind of hard, because you never know what someone else might want to know, LOL

[AimeeG]

I think your review is going to make me try out Vapor Renu. I looked at their site when you mentioned them the other day, but it seemed so non-descriptive I was hesitant. I am concerned about the additives they are marketing as "helpers" for good lung health. Well, it doesn't actually say what the additives are for (there's ginseng, vit c, and some b vitamins, if I remember correctly), but I thought some vendors got slammed for that late last summer. I am also curious what they are using to add the throat hit and the sweetness. I couldn't seem to find that info at their website. They do have a ton of flavors and very amazing prices. Anyway, thanks for the reviews!

[DerStadtschutz]

I think your review is going to make me try out Vapor Renu. I looked at their site when you mentioned them the other day, but it seemed so non-descriptive I was hesitant. I am concerned about the additives they are marketing as "helpers" for good lung health. Well, it doesn't actually say what the additives are for (there's ginseng, vit c, and some b vitamins, if I remember correctly), but I thought some vendors got slammed for that late last summer. I am also curious what they are using to add the throat hit and the sweetness. I couldn't seem to find that info at their website. They do have a ton of flavors and very amazing prices. Anyway, thanks for the reviews!

Aimee, I don't recall the name of the vendor you are referring to, but I do specifically recall that one vendor was putting CIALIS and a weight loss drug in their juice. That was the issue. There is nothing wrong with vitamins/herbal supplements. The issue, if I'm not mistaken was that the drugs used in the juice were prescription drugs. You don't need a prescription for vitamins and herbs. And, if you really are concerned, you're not required to put anything extra in your juice. It's just an option. The ginseng helps wake me up in the morning and keep me alert throughout the day. And I've noticed I haven't really been sick except for one time since I've been vaping, possibly at least partially do to my increased vitamin C intake via vaping.

Vitamin C helps you fight off things like colds and influenza. It also helps to prevent them, and it helps prevent scurvy.

"Vitamin B12, vitamin B12 or vitamin B-12, also called cobalamin, is a water soluble vitamin with a key role in the normal functioning of the brain and nervous system, and for the formation of blood. It is one of the eight B vitamins. It is normally involved in the metabolism of every cell of the human body, especially affecting DNA synthesis and regulation, but also fatty acid synthesis and energy production." <--- from wikipedia

"For many centuries extracts of milk thistle have been recognized as "liver tonics".[6] Research into the biological activity of silymarin and its possible medical uses has been conducted in many countries since the 1970s, but the quality of the research has been uneven.[3] Milk thistle has been reported to have protective effects on the liver and to greatly improve its function. It is typically used to treat liver cirrhosis, chronic hepatitis (liver inflammation), toxin-induced liver damage (including the prevention of severe liver damage from Amanita phalloides ('death cap' mushroom poisoning), and gallbladder disorders.[5][10]" <--- also from wikipedia. If I'm not mistaken, it's also supposed to be good for prostate health, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Ginseng is good for energy and alertness/staying awake. It's similar to caffeine in that regard, but it doesn't make you wired, and it doesn't cause jitters or crashing.

I'm glad people are finally giving vapor renu a try but at the same time a bit annoyed that nobody would really listen to me. I've been tooting their horn forever, and I've been mostly either mocked for liking their juice, or simply told "you get what you pay for, so I'm not buying it."

Edited January 30, 2011 by DerStadtschutz

[juliery]

I think your review is going to make me try out Vapor Renu. I looked at their site when you mentioned them the other day, but it seemed so non-descriptive I was hesitant. I am concerned about the additives they are marketing as "helpers" for good lung health. Well, it doesn't actually say what the additives are for (there's ginseng, vit c, and some b vitamins, if I remember correctly), but I thought some vendors got slammed for that late last summer. I am also curious what they are using to add the throat hit and the sweetness. I couldn't seem to find that info at their website. They do have a ton of flavors and very amazing prices. Anyway, thanks for the reviews!

I don't think VR's site says they are helpful....but if you look up those vitamins/additives, like B12 and ginseng, that is what the manufacturers of those things claim....not VR to the best of my recollection. I didn't get any additives. If I wanted to take that stuff I would go buy it in pill form. But I don't think they say they are healthy, BUT I have seen that on other sites that do claim it, and I know people get B12 shots, etc. I am not into all that stuff. I mean for heaven's sake I smoked 30 years, obviously I am not some health nut, LOL.

I don't mind the site being non descriptive....better than all the other sites where nearly ALL of them claim to have the most or best flavors and all that filler type info nonsense. I don't know what company's food flavorings they use, but that MUST be the main difference in their liquid, because it is SO much better than anything else we have had. We have ordered from at least, God, I am guessing, like 20 different vendors as far as liquid, prefilled cartos, etc. NONE of the flavors have touched these. Of course I have had 4 of how many dozens, LOL. But I think getting 4/4 that we REALLY like is a vast improvement over the past. We have WAY more bottles of juice that we will NEVER use compared to those that we will. Like the le cig order...of the 5 we absolutely won't use 3 of them. Ick, they just suck but in a weird way....like totally lacking and flat flavors? I don't know how to describe it. Like both cherry and sour cherry, not anything crazy like when people say it tastes like robitussin, maybe like almost watered down. They were just like yuck. I mean we weren't like washing our mouths out, but they were just not good to us. My husband is using the red bull, but he said it is just okay, he just doesn't want to waste EVERYTHING we ordered. I got a 10ml bottle of cappuccion and I will just mix it with other cappuccino....it is very weakish. Plus the le cig bottles having NO labeling at all on them really stinks. Unless you only have one flavor how could you ever tell them apart? And who wants to have to keep them in the little boxes they come in. They are all premixed flavors, just nothing special at all about them. Especially when you figure they are more than 3 times the cost.

But I figure with VR their site is simple, nothing flashy, fancy or anything.....and maybe that helps keep cost down too....they don't have to have an IT person maintaining it. I ordered from Ms. T's bakery the same night I placed my first order with vapor renu.....I have already gotten now TWO orders from vapor renu and STILL Ms T's order hasn't even shipped.....come on 10 days and still not shipped??? That is goofy. Thank God it was not something important or that I really needed, and I don't like that site at all....they have the stuff all broken down in categories, personally I think it is easier to find a flavor alphabetically. I guess it is probably to make the site more interesting or whatever but all I am interested in is a simple, easy to navigate site that I can find what I want quickly without a bunch of clicking around. Like on VR's site, you click on the renu liquids then drop down the flavor menu, pick options and done. I don't really care about all the needless "fluff".

Anyway, my MAIN concern was the price.....my thinking was sort of along the lines you get what you pay for, now it just makes me think I have been overpaying, LOL. This was definitely not a case of getting cheap liquid just because the price was low. I was never into the experimenting with flavors, but oddly, now I am really wanting to try more of the flavors!!! Anyway, I know taste is a very personal thing, but for the price, it certainly wouldn't be a hardship to try the flavors. Put it this way, if you ordered 3 flavors and only liked one, you would STILL be ahead of the places that charge $7.99 for 10ml. At least with that price one can experiment and try different stuff and not worry about wasting a ton of money.

[juliery]

. I am concerned about the additives they are marketing as "helpers" for good lung health. Well, it doesn't actually say what the additives are for (there's ginseng, vit c, and some b vitamins, if I remember correctly), but I thought some vendors got slammed for that late last summer. I am also curious what they are using to add the throat hit and the sweetness. I couldn't seem to find that info at their website. They do have a ton of flavors and very amazing prices. Anyway, thanks for the reviews!

I think that is precisely why it doesn't say anything about them....just flavorless additives....just went and looked because you got me wondering and trying to remember. So I guess they figure if you want that stuff and think it will somehow benefit you, you have that option....but they don't state anything one way or another. I don't think they would harm anyone, but I have no clue if vaping that stuff would be of any benefit. Which actually, it is smart they don't state anything one way or another about it. It is available if you want it, doesn't cost anything extra, and if you don't, you don't choose it. I don't really have an opinion about it, mostly because I just don't know enough about any of them to know if by inhaling them they would help anything. On the other hand, I am pretty sure they wouldn't hurt anything. So I suppose if someone wants the stuff, great, at least they have the option. Personally, I passed on it.

I really like that you have the option of TH....THAT option I REALLY like! The medium is perfect for me. There is a little TH, but nothing that I think would make anyone cough, like some of the liquids from places are. A couple of them I got such a coughing fit from. I think the medium simulates the TH of cig smoke pretty well.....I smoked lights, not ultra, and not regular. So maybe someone who smoked a stronger cig would want something more, but for me the medium is good. Trying to totally set aside flavor, I have to say, the feeling in my throat, as far as TH, it really is like smoking the Doral Light 100's I smoked, before that smoked B&H Lights, but they just were too expensive! I think the medium TH is very similar to the effect of a light. Maybe the "smooth" TH would be like an ultra light, "medium" is like a light, "aggressive" like a regular, and "ultra agressive" like an unfiltered cig.....that would be my guess anyway.

[juliery]

Aimee, I don't recall the name of the vendor you are referring to, but I do specifically recall that one vendor was putting CIALIS and a weight loss drug in their juice. That was the issue. There is nothing wrong with vitamins/herbal supplements. The issue, if I'm not mistaken was that the drugs used in the juice were prescription drugs. You don't need a prescription for vitamins and herbs. And, if you really are concerned, you're not required to put anything extra in your juice. It's just an option. The ginseng helps wake me up in the morning and keep me alert throughout the day. And I've noticed I haven't really been sick except for one time since I've been vaping, possibly at least partially do to my increased vitamin C intake via vaping.

Vitamin C helps you fight off things like colds and influenza. It also helps to prevent them, and it helps prevent scurvy.

"Vitamin B12, vitamin B12 or vitamin B-12, also called cobalamin, is a water soluble vitamin with a key role in the normal functioning of the brain and nervous system, and for the formation of blood. It is one of the eight B vitamins. It is normally involved in the metabolism of every cell of the human body, especially affecting DNA synthesis and regulation, but also fatty acid synthesis and energy production." <--- from wikipedia

"For many centuries extracts of milk thistle have been recognized as "liver tonics".[6] Research into the biological activity of silymarin and its possible medical uses has been conducted in many countries since the 1970s, but the quality of the research has been uneven.[3] Milk thistle has been reported to have protective effects on the liver and to greatly improve its function. It is typically used to treat liver cirrhosis, chronic hepatitis (liver inflammation), toxin-induced liver damage (including the prevention of severe liver damage from Amanita phalloides ('death cap' mushroom poisoning), and gallbladder disorders.[5][10]" <--- also from wikipedia. If I'm not mistaken, it's also supposed to be good for prostate health, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Ginseng is good for energy and alertness/staying awake. It's similar to caffeine in that regard, but it doesn't make you wired, and it doesn't cause jitters or crashing.

I'm glad people are finally giving vapor renu a try but at the same time a bit annoyed that nobody would really listen to me. I've been tooting their horn forever, and I've been mostly either mocked for liking their juice, or simply told "you get what you pay for, so I'm not buying it."

I wish I had been on the site before and seen you recommending it. I don't go with that you MUST pay more for something of good quality. Although I admit I was somewhat hesitant ONLY because their prices are SO much less than everyone else. But in this case, it just makes me think that everyone else's prices are too much. I have only been on VT less than a month, so I didn't see you saying anything about their liquid, or at least not that I recall. But you know how it is.....when you get more than one person saying something it usually gets people to pay more attention.

I for one AGREE with you totally, even though I never saw anything previously about them. All I know is that of the 4 flavors ALL of them are good and we will use every single one of them, and reorder them too. I just LOVE how the white chocolate really enhances several other flavors we have PLUS it is great by itself....just really a nice creamy white chocolate flavor.

So you DO recommend the additives? NOW you are making me want to try them. I know they are all over the counter type things that many people swear by and take daily. You think vaping them has helped? DO you get all of them in all your liquid or pick and choose what to put into various liquid. I do know what they do taking them in pill form, although I personally don't......but you feel they are beneficial vaping them too? MY ONLY thought about them was concern about the fact that it is adding more liquid into the mixture and that it could possibly dilute the flavor.......would you say it doesn't affect the flavor as far as that? Now you really got me thinking about this.....I don't believe for ONE MOMENT that there is ANY possibility of it harming anything.

As far as that other stuff, I wouldn't even consider vaping any prescription drug, including the numerous meds I am on. They are made to be taken a certain way, like some are extended release and not to be taken out of the capsule or crushed, etc. Others are tablets because they are meant to dissolve over a certain period of time, etc. SO I don't think it would be a good idea to vape them or any other prescription med. Of course herbs and supplements are another matter. I am particularly interested in the vit C, B12 and ginseng. So would you recommend all 3 in one liquid or do you split them across diff flavors or what? Thanks for any info/help you can give me!!

[AimeeG]

Stadtschutz, when you're right, you're right. It was a prescription drug thing from late last summer. The info you gave about the vitamins is good to have. Thank you. I'm not a big fan of caffeine, I don't drink coffee or regular tea, but ginseng might work well for those mornings after I read at night just a bit too long. As for the vitamins, well, I take a multi every morning, so I'm not sure my body would need extra through my vaping habit. Though if it helps me not get sick from the twelve year olds I teach, it might be worth it because I've been sick four times already this school year.

Juliery, a website that is easy to navigate is a good thing. I don't like having to jump all around to see stuff either. But sometimes a description of the flavor is helpful. Not that I can think of one from VaporRenu right now, but I hope you know what I mean.

As for adding the stuff, I'll hope someone else jumps in about their experience with any of the additionals they offer at VR before busting out the plastic card.

Thanks to you both for the information, it is much appreciated.

[Sharon]

Where to begin....Okay, the specs...all three flavors are 16mg, 80/20 PG/VG, Medium TH, and regular flavor. Vapor Renu has MANY flavors, and ANY that you don't see, all you have to do is fill out the contact/email form and Jason will add them onto the list. ALL liquids are mixed to order as you have numerous options.....4 diff levels of TH, 3 levels of flavor strength, 4 flavorless additives thought to be healthy for lungs etc., 5 diff vg/pg blends (and I am sure if you wanted some different combo you could request it from Jason), 6 diff nic strengths including 0mg. Okay, on to the flavors.....it also bears mentioning I am using them in an 808 carto, on a 750mah battery as well as a USB PT.

White Chocolate.....AMAZING....it really tastes like creamy white chocolate! In the day I have had it, I have vaped it alone, FABULOUS, and mixed it with both the cappuccino and the pumpkin spice I already had from Vapor Renu. Mixed with the PS it is like Pumpkin Spice cheesecake, it is just really, really amazing. It is sweet, as one would expect, BUT not overpoweringly so. I ordered this for my husband actually, but he will have to fight me for it. The vapor production is great, TH is perfect (medium is what I ordered)...it is a nice TH without making my throat sore. I can already tell this will be my go-to flavor, especially to mix with things I normally only kinda like....this is fabulous mixed with other flavors, including the Double Dutch Chocolate, which I will move on to now.

Double Dutch Chocolate....first let me say, the smell is awesome. I opened the cap and was like OMG, it smells just like chocolate syrup. There is NO doubt upon smelling this what it is. Again, vapor production is great...nice big clouds of vapor. This flavor, when used in a carto needs to absorb into the filler. When I first put it in, it was a bit strange....I could only taste the chocolate on the exhale. After it sat for a couple hours it was MOST definitely chocolate on the inhale and exhale, and it has a great after taste too. I have heard that chocolate is a hard flavor to reproduce, well this is it, it is definitely chocolate. I would say it is somewhere between a regular chocolate and a dark chocolate. TH is great, same as the others, since I ordered them that way. My husband is wild over this flavor as he has been looking for a chocolate/dark chocolate but never liked any of the others we have ordered from other vendors. He is a big time chocolate lover and promptly snatched the bottle away from me.....I guess in the hopes he would get to keep ANY of the flavors for himself, teeheehee.

Cappuccino....first let me mention that Vapor Renu did not have this on their flavor list. I wrote asking if it was possible for them to make a cappuccino and Jason responded saying he had added it. As others have said, he will add anything you suggest (or at least the things that we know of being suggested). I should say right off the bat that I have been vaping cappuccino exclusively for almost 7 mos until a week ago. So I am very used to a certain kind of flavor for the cappuccino. HOWEVER, I am now over it. This cappuccino is like coffee with a dash of chocolate. It smells really good. It is not as sweet as the cappuccino I normally vaped and I am really liking that. I like sweet but I am not a big sugar person.....I don't like when it just tastes super sweet, and the sweetness is the predominant impression. I want a distinctive flavor, where I can tell them all apart from each other and identify the flavors without having to look at the label. I am sure most of you know what I mean....some vendors you really can't tell WHICH fruit you are vaping....or which sweet flavor. They just taste either fruity or sweet or some other general type thing.

I also have to say I love the labeling on the bottles. You will never have to just remember what you ordered, everything about the liquid is clearly printed on the label, including the level of TH, pg/vg blend, of course the flavor and the nic level. The date it was mixed is also clearly noted. I have other bottles from other vendors that come in little boxes and the bottles aren't labeled at all. Who wants to have to keep the bottles in boxes just to know what the heck they are????? We made the mistake of ordering 5 flavors from LeCig, none of the bottles are labeled, so I had to write the flavors on with a sharpie BUT it rubs off. Totally stupid in my opinion. I shouldn't have to label the bottle, or keep putting it back into a little box. Goofy, never seen that. (We didn't like 3 of the flavors from LeCig, so they won't be an issue. The other two are okayish mixed with other things.)

Anyway, we are going to order more from Vapor Renu.....like I am thinking the English Toffee? Heath Bar?? Mochaccino? There are SOOOO many flavors, it is hard to know where to begin....oh and FOR SURE gotta get more white chocolate RIGHT AWAY! All the liquid comes in 30ml bottles....$7.49 a bottle (can't imagine beating THAT price)....AND it is really even less because there is a coupon code for first time customers...15% off using the code "nujuice" and returning customers save 10% with the code "renu".....you just CANNOT beat the price. I am thinking it would probably cost me more if I mixed it myself.....especially with all the trial and error. There is a VERY small fee for a few of the options....if you increased EVERY single thing to the highest costing amount a 30ml bottle would be $9.74, still a GREAT price. Mine were all still $7.49 because I didn't need the most aggressive TH, or the triple flavor, etc. I can't even imagine triple flavor, the regular is plenty flavorful for me/us. So four flavors so far, four keepers....of course at that price an occasional miss I can deal with. This is the FIRST vendor where the flavors we have gotten REALLY TASTE (and smell) like what they are. I love that everything is custom mixed to order, made in the U.S.A and a phenomenal price, EXCELLENT customer service....all in all we are VERY happy and can't wait to order more!!

NOTE: I am in NO way affiliated with this company and have nothing to gain by saying positive things. Just a VERY happy customer. I wasn't given these liquids, I purchased them, and will definitely be going back for more! Duh, and the website is www.vaporrenu.com.....in case you couldn't guess that, LOL. Happy vaping!

Thanks Juliery,

I just placed an order. I can't believe I am getting 90 mg for the same price I just paid for 30 mg. Thanks for the discount code too.

Can you explain to me the differences between PG and VG?

[AimeeG]

Thanks Juliery,

I just placed an order. I can't believe I am getting 90 mg for the same price I just paid for 30 mg. Thanks for the discount code too.

Can you explain to me the differences between PG and VG?

PG is a bit thinner and gives decent flavor. VG is a bit thicker and produces more vapor. Some people have a sensitivity or allergy to PG. Just drink lots of water. Either way, you'll be fine.

Also, I do hope you meant you ordered 90ml, not mg, because vaping 90mg might hurt you. A lot.

So, 90ml, right? Please tell me it was just the quantity, not the concentration of nicotine.

[Sharon]

PG is a bit thinner and gives decent flavor. VG is a bit thicker and produces more vapor. Some people have a sensitivity or allergy to PG. Just drink lots of water. Either way, you'll be fine.

Also, I do hope you meant you ordered 90ml, not mg, because vaping 90mg might hurt you. A lot.

So, 90ml, right? Please tell me it was just the quantity, not the concentration of nicotine.

My Bad! It's 90 ml.

[DerStadtschutz]

As far as the additives are concerned, I don't think you can get more than one in a particular bottle(maybe if you e-mail jason and request it after you've placed the order). Whether or not they dilute the flavor, I'm sure they do to some degree, but I imagine it would make such a small difference you wouldn't notice. I can't tell though, because every juice I've gotten from them has had an additive. I never tried it without. Actually, I think my pina colada might not have an additive, but that's the only one, and the only juice i've ordered twice from VR was the bavarian cream, with ginseng both times. So I have no way of knowing, no basis for comparison.

You probably never saw me mention Vapor Renu if you were only looking on the forums, as up until recently, I haven't really been participating too much. I mostly just go in the chat. Plus, people can't seem to spell or pronounce my name very well, so I go by "nintendo_kid" in chat. I used to plug Vapor Renu on ECF like crazy, though.

According to Jason, his prices are so low because he buys everything in huge quantities. He also told me that quite a few USA vendors actually get their supplies from him(he sells PG/VG and flavors separately, maybe nicotine base too, but i'm not sure), which I find rather interesting.

Edited January 30, 2011 by DerStadtschutz

[AimeeG]

to Sharon:

PHEW!

Edited January 30, 2011 by AimeeG

[DerStadtschutz]

You know, I'm so glad to finally see some people get it. Just cuz it costs more doesn't mean it's better, but apparently a lot of people have been indoctrinated into thinking that way. In my personal experience, in most cases, the more expensive stuff is no better, sometimes even worse. It depends on what it is, who's making the cheaper one, and who's making the more expensive one.

My girlfriend just recently started rolling cigarettes, within the past 2-4 weeks. She got one of those cheap hand rollers that just slides. The first one she got was 5-7 dollars, made by a company called premiere. It kept jamming, and it was a pain to use and not ergonomic whatsoever. It was all boxy and had a "ribbed" surface, I guess for grip, but all it did is make your hands hurt. It kept ripping the filter tubes and not filling down to the filter or to the top. After a week or two, she broke it by accident while trying to force it because it was jammed. She went back to the tobacco store and got the cheap one made by Top. It was only 1-3 dollars. It slides much easier and is designed in a way that it won't break in the same way. It's curved, not boxy, and has little indents for you to put your fingers on while using it. It fills the tubes all the way, from the filter to the top, and it doesn't hurt your hands. You can roll cigarettes much faster with it. It also has a switch on the bottom that allows you to switch between King size and 100mm length cigarette tubes, whereas the other one was only good for king size. If I would have been with her the first time, or I would have been the one getting it, I would have gone with the cheap one and saved 5-7 dollars. The moral of this story is you don't always get what you pay for. A lot of times you just get overpriced crap.

I keep running into the same thing with the ego/riva. Everytime a newbie comes along, everyone screams "omg, get an ego." The thing's like 60-80 bucks, and while it might be worth it, it can be a daunting price, especially for a newbie. The Riva costs like half the money and is just as good, actually better in my opinion. But everybody keeps barking "you get what you pay for" and crap about warranties. Now there's nothing wrong with warranties, but they're not always necessary, and I'm not paying double price for a warranty. A lot of times stores will try to sell you useless warranties to get more of your money. That might not apply to e-cigs quite the way it does to department stores, but still. I'm not paying double the price unless the one that's double the price is light years ahead of the competition. In this case, it clearly is not. I'm not trying to say there's anything wrong with the ego or advising a newbie to get one, but when I chime in with my riva suggestion, people shoot it down. "omg, warranty, not genuine joye, knockoff, blah blah." whatever...

And here's an even BETTER example. Okay, greensmoke costs 100 bucks. Blu used to cost 60, now it's 70. The cheapest I've seen a 510 kit for was 40($25 at this one site that was trying to sell them all off and switch to only liquid. No idea what they cost before that though). The Riva costs less than all of them, but is clearly superior. Same atty as a 510, much larger battery that lasts about 6-8 hours as opposed to 1-2. You get what you pay for? Why, I think not.

Edited January 30, 2011 by DerStadtschutz

[juliery]

I agree....about the price/quality thing. There are so many examples of it. Plus some people are into "name brands" and all that. I personally don't get it. Like my daughter, she is married and her husband comes from money. He bought her Coach handbags and Movado watches, etc. To me, I rather have a $50 handbag with $450 cash in it than a $500 handbag. A $500 watch? If it somehow kept better time, okay fine, but it doesn't, and really time is somewhat relative, depends if you are going by your employer's clock or the cable company's clock and so on. Nothing worse than paying attention to the time to turn on a show at a certain time only to find you tuned in 5 minutes late. So who knows what time it is???? Does ANYONE really know what time it is....yeah, i know, Chicago, thanks, LOL.

As far as the descriptions, I don't really need a description of any of the flavors I saw on Flavor Renu....I mean, like Double Dutch Chocoate, I assumed would be like double chocolate, and yes, I would say it was. White Chocolate, I know what that tastes like too. NOW, I will say, with things like RY4 (which I don't even know if they have since I am not a fan of it)....I NEVER saw an explanation of what it was until AFTER I had ordered from numerous vendors and HATED it. It was always a bestseller and so I just figured it would be good. YUCK, hate it, at least everywhere I got it from.....well finally, much later I saw it involved caramel, I don't like carmellow or caramel or marshmallow or any of the SUPER sweet flavors, it just isn't my thing. I don't want anything bitter of course either, but I just like a nice definable not too crazy sweet flavor. But like blueberry waffle, I assume it tastes like blueberries and waffle put together. Like now I am mixing pumpkin spice with white chocolate and even sometimes cappuccino too. It tastes exactly like ALL three mixed together. Like maybe if you ever have had a Pumpkin Spice Cheesecake? Then taken a gulp of cappuccino at the same time? That is what it tastes like mixed together, only minus a few thousand calories, LOL. So I don't know, if a flavor is something that is not a "real life" flavor, then yes, I would want an explanation. But like apple and sour apple.....I expect apple to be sort of like a red delicious and sour apple to be like a granny smith. Flavors like "midnight" or "daydream" or things like that I definitely think require a description because midnight or some of these other things aren't actually "flavors" in the real world. So absolutely, those kinds of things for sure require explanation.

Okay, so back to Flavor Renu and flavors, I am looking at the English Toffee, and Heath Bar....i would think the main difference would be in the chocolate because a heath bar is more milk chocolate where English toffee is more dark. Personally I would probably like both or either one. Leaning more toward he English Toffee.....I am also thinking I want to get Waffle flavor...I am thinking that could be GREAT mixed with the pumpkin spice, the white chocolate, the cappuccino and numerous other things we already have. It seems like that might be a nice neutral flavor to mix with others. What do you guys think? Anyone had it? I love plain waffles in real life, sometimes with fresh fruit....but NO syrup. So I am thinking it might be interesting. I guess for that price it is definitely worth trying. FOR SURE I have to get more white chocolate, OMG it is just TOOOOOOO good. I am throwing it in with everything, LOL. I am betting all the fruit flavors are good too. My husband is totally into the fruit flavors. I don't mind them, but they just aren't my favorite, BUT mixed with white chocolate or waffle, I think I might like them then. Hmmmmmmm, my little pea brain is ALL over the place now with these flavors. Just SO glad to have a great quality product for an amazing price.

Oh, and Der....I have not even been on this forum for a month, which is probably why I never saw you say anything about VR. Oh, and the ego/riva thing, I totally understand. I know a lot of people think I am nuts with the using a KR808 device. I do NOT direct drip, I have zero interest in doing so, so IF I switched to another type of device I would still use cartos. I have literally HUNDREDS...MANY hundreds of 808 cartos, why would I toss those aside to switch to another carto??? that makes NO sense to me. Why, so I can use an EGO??? I have the elegant easy batteries from cigeasy.com which are like Rivas, only with the KR808 connection....750mah. The whole kit, two batteries, usb turbo charger, wall adapter, cone, 5 prefilled cartos (you pick flavor) plus 10ml of liquid (your choice of flavor) for $60, so why would I buy an ego??? They are only 600mah, so it would be like downgrading. Hell, if I wanted to direct drip I could just pull the filler out of a carto and do it anyway. I have health issues and my hands shake, sometimes severely, sometimes a little, sometimes not much at all (that is rare). But in general I don't want to be messing with attys or direct dripping for that reason. My husband works wiring up control panels that run giant machinery all day, so he couldn't be messing around direct dripping either. I don't think his employer would be happy with him direct dripping when he is supposed to be WORKING with both hands. They have no problem with him vaping at work though. Of course that is a here and there thing...he was a light smoker. Cigeasy also has the XXL elegant easy which is a 1300mah 808 battery. So I see no reasonable incentive to switch. Jolly is making us two custom mods, a wetbox for me, a wii mod for my husband, both with 808 connections. It will be a LONG time before all these cartos are used and I am not going to just pitch them to buy some other type of device. I know some people have multiple types of devices and buy lots of types to try them out. I have tons of medical bills, and 3 kids still living at home, so I can't justify spending money needlessly just to play around when nothing is wrong with what we have. We are totally happy with what we are using now. Can't wait to get those mods, THEN we will be THRILLED, LOL. Anyway, I totally get what you are saying.

I never tried adding the additives so I didn't know if you could add just one to a flavor or everything or what. I still don't know if I will bother with it. I am sure it certainly can't harm anything and hey, if it has benefit, that is wonderful.

Sharon, you cannot beat the price, THAT is for sure. Funny, in chat like a week ago Jolly was showing us a 120ml bottle of his favorite liquid and all happy because it was only $40, which is also a good price.....but we could get it for $32 from VR INCLUDING SHIPPING...so EVEN a better price! IF for some reason you do NOT like the liquid....WRITE JASON....he will TOTALLY work with you. I wasn't thrilled with the pumpkin in my first order....I had ordered pumpkin and pumpkin spice, because I wasn't sure what I would like. So obviously you can tell I talk, so I had written starting some discussion and he told me to let him know how I liked them. So I MEANT NOTHING by it and just asked if it was possible to buy whatever the "spice" part of the mixture was so I could just toss it in the pumpkin myself....that I just preferred the pumpkin spice. SO he writes back RIGHT AWAY and says with my next order to remind him and he will just toss in a free bottle of pumpkin spice to make up for not loving the pumpkin!! I COULD NOT believe it. I mean WHO ELSE does that????? I mean just because I don't prefer a flavor???? I mean, that is UNHEARD of great customer service. I am also really TRYING the flavors at different times because I have noticed, like with the DD chocolate, when I first filled the carto and vaped it, I thought "well it is okay"....the exhale really was chocolate tasting, but not so much the inhale. Well then I tried it again after a couple hours, it had been sitting, on end.....so THEN it was fabulous....REALLY chocolate. It smells GREAT in the bottle....so does the pumpkin spice....SO I am learning to give things a chance. I just vaped some more of the double dutch chocolate today and it just gets better and better. It is like the more it is absorbed the better it gets......probably WOULD be great direct dripping.

Okay, I will shut up....I THINK I responded to everything, LOL!!!! Sharon....make sure you tell us what you think of the flavor(s) you ordered!!!! I will be sure to do the same!

[juliery]

Thanks Juliery,

I just placed an order. I can't believe I am getting 90 mg for the same price I just paid for 30 mg. Thanks for the discount code too.

Can you explain to me the differences between PG and VG?

I don't know if you know all this, and didn't see it mentioned....PG is propylene glycol and is considered a safe product, used for decades in various things that you use every day. VG is vegetable glycerin. PEG is also used in some liquid which is polyethylene glycol, a non toxic compound it is generally used as a food addictive, and many pharmaceuticals. All three are humectants which is anything used to keep another substance moist. A person can be allergic to any of them, and any of the three can cause drying of the throat. Plus it might not be a true "allergy" but merely a reaction to the level of whichever one you are sensitive to. And of course you can also have no reaction to any of them. They are all considered safe and they are very common in many things we use and consume daily.

Some people say the PG dries their throat, others say the VG dries their throat. Neither one of them has ever dried my throat and I don't consume more liquids than I did before. When you first vape and experience dry throat, who knows what it is really from....maybe it is something to do with not smoking? Or maybe it is just merely something your aren't used to inhaling, as I have also seen numerous people say that after vaping a few weeks any dryness went away. The only issue I ever had was when I vaped nic that was 24 mg....really bothered my throat, like that raw feeling you get right before getting a really bad throat infection. But vaping 16-18 mg I have had NO problems at all. There are just so many things you have to sort of figure out when you first start out, as far as any issues because it is sometimes hard to figure out the cause of something when you aren't used to using the particular stuff,....like exactly which thing is causing the issue, or is it really ANY of them?

Personally I don't care for VG because it adds a sweet taste and I don't care for how it affects the flavor of the liquid. Like if you buy the exact same liquid in all PG or all VG, the VG is much sweeter. Also, VG is usually thicker, I will say that I have 80/20 liquid from other vendors that is MUCH thicker than 100%pg liquid I have. But the 80/20 from VR is no thicker than the all pg I have from other places. So I don't know if he does anything or uses some different VG, who knows. Obviously if I had a problem with PG and not VG, then I would deal with the way it affects the flavors. Anyway, I hope this helps you. If you look on wikipedia you can find good explanations/definitions of each one of them.

[DerStadtschutz]

I haven't personally tried any waffle flavors, but I heard they're not good.

[juliery]

I haven't personally tried any waffle flavors, but I heard they're not good.

REALLY??? In chat people were raving about the waffle being so great!! Not from vapor renu but just in general from various places. I guess like everything else, it is just a preference. On a couple liquid suppliers it is supposedly a bestselling flavor, which of course just means they have sold a lot....doesn't mean it is used or that they are repeat purchases. I have bought lots of stuff and only tried it and hated it, so if that just goes into a sales count, it is meaningless.

[AimeeG]

I went ahead and ordered. Going to try the no nic thing (see my migraine post in Health and Safety, help if you can), and I can always add some nic later if that's not the cause of the migraine after running beast. Anyway, I ordered, all with zero nic, 100% PG, no additives, mildest TH:

white chocolate (double flavor)

double dutch chocolate (normal flavor)

cappuccino (double flavor)

dulce de leche (normal flavor)

black tea (double flavor --- REALLY excited about this one!)

mocha (normal flavor)

I used the "nujuice" code and pretty much got it shipped free with that 15% off. Nice. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for posting about Vapor Renu!

[DerStadtschutz]

REALLY??? In chat people were raving about the waffle being so great!! Not from vapor renu but just in general from various places. I guess like everything else, it is just a preference. On a couple liquid suppliers it is supposedly a bestselling flavor, which of course just means they have sold a lot....doesn't mean it is used or that they are repeat purchases. I have bought lots of stuff and only tried it and hated it, so if that just goes into a sales count, it is meaningless.

Well, I guess it depends on who you talk to and where you get it from, but from what i understand, it's supposed to taste like butter. I would expect waffle to be a combination of butter and maple syrup, or just maple syrup, but i heard it's pretty much just a buttery flavor. If that's the case, i doubt I'd like it. Feel free to try it. If you don't like it, just e-mail Jason. If you want to try some amazing flavors, go for some Bavarian Creme, Chocolate Eclair, Butterscotch, Pina Colada, Cotton Candy, or Strawberry Kiwi. They're all good, at least to me.