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So I got my griffin 25 plus and loved it.....and then....well I ran into build issues,I ran into wicking issues @Walt I said you could not pry it out of my cold dead hands....turns out you can!! I got * so* sick of tinkering,losing juice, ect. That I asked my boyfriend if he'd swap me for his mutation x v2, which was well loved from the moment he let me borrow it, I used that thing for two weeks straight....no issue whatsoever,I got a burnt hit once,but dripping became second nature to me in about ten minutes! ! I told him I was about to rip my hair out!! While I hate to steal his dripper,he already has the original griffin 25, and has lusted after my tank, but not in a way that would make me want to give it up....I'm just not ready for rta life,it turns out,right now. I love building coils,but I have neither the time or the patience to install them correctly and keep tinkering right now. So I'm being *completely * lazy .the coil he has on there I can crank up or turn down to my preference. I know,because like I said, I used it for two weeks straight! ! I told him when I get ready to try building again,I will get a deck similar to the one I had to build on. I loved that dripper a whole heck of alot better than the griffin 25 plus,that I have not used in four days straight because I can't get it right!! Yes ,I am lazy, but if all I have to do is rewick, well I can live with that! When I get ready to build again,I will!! But for now I need something I do not have to mess with ,that I can use daily. This does not leak,has super nice adjustable airflow, nice deep juice wells doesn't even get hot rocking a stainless drip tip at 90 watts! I love it....and he's letting me have my way...yes capers your s.o. 's gear is nice to steal sometimes!!