Odd duck here I think. I do not seem to fit the vaping culture mold. After 40 years of smoking the best tobaccos in the world (I like English cigs and pipe tobaccos and Cuban cigars), I realized that vaping had real potential to get me to stop smoking. My problem is I really like tobacco. I was a pit bull though plowing through all the disappointments of crappy juice, dead batteries, leaky atomizers, faulty mods, and bad advice for about six months. I finally found the combinations that work for me. It wasn't easy. I am not a cloud blower or a flavor chaser. I find most vape shops I have visited to be oriented towards kids, the latest fashion hardware, cheap juice and cloud blowing. I am into quality in both my equipment and the liquids. I like high PG as the flavor is there. Unlike most, I do not like artificial food or synthetic tobacco flavors. I only vape natural tobacco flavors - that's what works for me. Unfortunately, that is not what most are into in the forums and the vape shops are devoid of like minded compatriots. Maybe there are a few other "odd ducks" around?