Matt

Alright, Thanks! I just wasn't sure about the charger issue because my other e-cig's do not have the same problem. But yeah, I think the vapor production on the 510 is great no complaints there.

So I got my Joye 510 from true smoker in last week after a long wait I was excited to get it and try it out. At first when I screwed the battery into the charger I started having problems with that, the light would just turn green when it wasn’t charged and I would have to wiggle the charger around and the light would go from red to green and back again all the time and to make matters worse the battery life on it was sucking pretty bad, the batteries were only lasting for maybe two hours of moderate vaping and then today the led on one of my batteries has decided that it wants to stay on all the time and not go off and it will not produce any vapor when connected to the atomizer so I am assuming that the battery is toast. I am guessing that I just got a lemon from the factory since no one else seems to have any complaints about this model. I am just really frustrated with it, has anyone else had any issues like I have described?

Yeah, I am leaning in the direction of the pen style, the only thing that's making me consider the 8084 is that the parts are interchangeable with everything that I already have and I am just curios about trying it out. Either way I will probably end up with the pen style eventually.

So I am thinking about placing an order at ruyan direct and am having trouble making up my mind. I like the smaller models of e-cigs even though I know that everyone says the pen styles are the best. I have a 510 on back order from true smoker already, I can't wait til that one ships because I really want to try it out. Anyway... I saw they have a kit on ruyan called the 8084 and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this model? it seems like a pretty good price for two complete e-cigs at $35.00 for the kit. I am also wondering if I should order the DSE-801 pen style.