i have some friends i am trying to help off analogs to, and the dont like it either. i put it in the classifieds on here. i need something we can use. it is hard to help and still get your own backup going. enough rambling!! and i dont even know if it is something i can vape as backup!! so i put it up to try. two bottles that were in the lot, only have a clear label that says 555 on it, i have no idea who it is made by. there is v4l and good profits. that is all i know for sure, thanks for all the replies!!!