FXRich

If you are using TC you probably won't get a dry hit or experience burnt cotton. If you are using watt mode eventually you will run out of juice without knowing it and then you will know what a dry hit is and what burnt cotton tastes like.

VaporKings, Subtanksupply, and vaporcouncil have them but they are $5.00 each no matter if you buy 1 or if you buy a 5 pack. You should watch them test the planes at Boeing, I didn't think a 757 could do barrel rolls, and loops, they must have some very good pilots. Vapor Shark is the cheapest I found $22.49 for a 5 pack.

I was hoping it would have a SS mode for TC, but if it don't I can live with that. The preorder didn't say much more than 60w TC which is exactly what the NEBOX has. $46.00 isn't that bad of a price for a 60w TC mod with or without SS TC mode. Just wish it would get here sooner, haven't got a tracking number yet.

The first TC mod by Kanger didn't turn out very well, maybe they will do better with the next. I have a Subox mini platinum coming hope it don't have the same chip as the NEBOX, but it might.

Kanger usually makes a good product but the NEBOX is a failure as far as I can see. They will probably discontinue it in the future.

You could get something simple like a Ego battery and a pro tank or get a istick with a decent tank to go with it, there's so many choices its mind boggling, it depends on what you want, and if you plan to upgrade eventually or not. I have a friend that just chewed, he got himself a Kanger Subtank kit and hasn't chewed since, but what worked for him might not work for you.

The media totally exaggerates everything, that's why I have a hard time believing what I see on TV.

Normally I would say go visit a local vape shop, but lately I have seen where they sell beginners complicated setups. If you visit a local vape shop don't let them sell you a TC mod or a Mechanical mod tell them you want something that is simple, easy to use, and user friendly.

When that Sampan from China gets here I will try TC, I have a IR temp sensor so hopefully I can check the actual temp that the coil is running at. I'm also looking at the new Kanger 120w, and the 200w mods. supposedly they are good for Ti, Ni, SS, and NiCR in TC mode, They are due out in January. I don't think I'll need 120 watts much less 200 watts. Being that they use dual 18650 batteries they are a bit larger than I want, but will make a good at home Mod.

Instead of replacing the entire tank it might be better to get a T3s or a kanger protank mini either one has a changeable coil, and vape really well, even though I mostly use a Subtank mini I still use my KPT mini and full size KPT, especially to test new juices.

I looked it up and it appears to be a standard ego type 900mAh battery, don't know why you are getting a burnt taste unless the coil needs to be changed. typically those coils will last 4 to 5 tanks after that they need to be changed. Its probably a good idea to clean it at the same time. If I remember right the CE4 is a top wick tank and don't do well with a high VG mix.

Don't know why you want to vape if you never smoked, but that's your choice. Getting to your question to clean a CE4 just remove the coil and rinse with hot water and let dry. After it dries put a new coil in it and fill it and vape away. As to the burnt taste you did not mention if you have a variable wattage battery or not, Apollo Vape stick is kind of vague. Your pic didn't come through.

I'm semi retired so I have lots of spare time so I started to mix my own juice, and of course friends want me to mix for them too. I have come up with lots of different combinations some good some not so good. But it has saved me lots of money so I guess it was worth it.

I don't know if this has anything to do with what we are discussing but a few months ago I did some research, I found out the boiling point of VG is 554f, and PG has a boiling point of 370f so it does make sense that it takes more heat to vaporize VG than PG. But here's something else to consider some of the juices that I mix do not have PG in them, instead I use flavors using a water/alcohol base, instead of using 20% flavor I use 25% flavor, and they seem to vaporize at a much lower temperature. Which makes sense because water boils at 212f and alcohol boils at 173f. Most of the juices I mix still use a PG/VG mix, but I started to use non PG flavor because a Friend has reactions to PG, and I found I liked some of the flavors. Right now I'm vaping a Root Beer juice that has 70% VG 25% non PG flavor, and 5% distilled water. I'm using 8.5 watts and getting a good vape with good flavor. Also the coils seem to last longer using a non PG flavor.

I'm not a scientist so I can't explain why but humidity also plays a role in vaping, when the humidity changes so do the settings, at least it happens to me. It may only change the settings a little but it still changes.

I'm down to 8.5 watts on one mod, and 10 on another mod, same build but different juices.

We all going to die from something, I prefer to die from something I enjoy.

As to your question about the wattage on the Subvod, The most volts it will put out when fully charged is about 4.2 volts using a .5 coil that would be about 35 watts according to Ohms law. As the voltage decreases the wattage will drop. Variable wattage mods can increase the voltage and thus increases the wattage, also Variable wattage mods can decrease the voltage to decrease the wattage. An example would be if you had a .5 coil at 15 watts it would only put out 2.7 volts no matter what the battery voltage is. There is also a efficiency factor involved with electronic mods.

That 70% is that PG or VG, PG gives more throat hit and flavor, the VG gives more vapor. I don't really know if you need higher watts for PG or for VG I have always used a high VG juice so don't really know if it makes a difference. I use a 30PG/ 70VG mix back when I used a 50/50 mix I didn't have a VW device just ego batteries.

That ohm reading on the mod might not be right, some are some aren't, or the coil might be wrong the mod adjusts itself to match the coil. If the coil came with the tank it is probably the coil, the coils that come with the tanks aren't usually good coils. Some people don't use the coils that come with the tanks. I'm running a 30PG/70VG mix Are you using that mod in TC mode or Watt mode, some people new to vaping run a non TC coil in TC mode without knowing it.

Right now I'm running a 1.0ohm coil in a Subtank Mini and only have it set on 8.5 watts. The Root Beer flavor in it Vapes really good at that wattage.

Most coils made by Kanger have the watt ratings printed on them. Just start at the lowest setting on the coil and go up from there. The .5ohm Kanger coils I have say 15 - 60 watts, but I never run them over 12 watts. Maybe I'm a wimp but they seem harsh to me above 12 watts, sometimes depending on the juice 10 watts seem harsh.

Sounds like a wicking problem, what's the PG/VG ratio of your juice?

If you are curious you can put your Subvod tank on your box mod, and try it at 12 watts. Just don't try it at 60 watts you will burn the coil out real fast.

The difference in battery life probably has to do with the wattage you are running, if you are running 65 - 75 watts on your box mod it will drain the batteries pretty fast. Your Subvod probably isn't running more than 10 -15 watts so it lasts longer. The box mods I use have a single 18650 battery and last all day, but I only run 10 - 12 watts. That's the downside to a cloud chaser tank, they like to drain batteries pretty fast.