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Being AEMSA certified doesn't necessarily mean you have the right mixture ratios as it doesn't govern all aspects that. It does, however, require you to use certain quality of ingredients. It's like any other regulation. Those who participate are required to use ingredients that meet a certain standard which is a good thing. However, the fact that a product meets the minimum requirements in no way means there are not better products available. This is where research on your vendor comes into play. If you are a supplier, visit their facility. Do they have a lab or do they mix in a back room somewhere in a warehouse? Know AEMSA standards before you go. If you cannot go, know what questions to ask.... 5mls a day, imho, is quite a bit. Not a ridiculous amount.. but, nevertheless, quite a bit..

Being on the list is not a prerequisite to believing in the agency and their standards. Knowing about the agency and the good coming from it is. Both of which I do. As I stated in my previous post, there are some really wicked people mixing. I have no doubt what you say about the store you visited being dirty, as well as, your other claims about them. I, for one, however, would make a point of making it public information if I ever seen what you claim to have seen. I would not protect the business by not mentioning their name. I would want everyone in the vaping world to know who it was and what I seen. The fact that a particular group is affiliated with AEMSA doesn't preclude them from not following the rules. If everyone always followed rules there would be no need for police of any type anywhere. It's no different than when a complete jerk working at the local fast food joint does what he preceives to be funny to your food. Yet, I bet you eat at one or more of the major chains. If not, you are certainly an exception to the norm. No agency can be everywhere all the time. However, most do follow the rules. Especially my supplier who's name does appear on the list you posted. I, personally, would rather take my chances on a company who is on a list as opposed to someone mixing in a basement or other unsanitary facility who is not certified. In other words, any regulation is better than none when it comes to our health. I believe most any supplier who is willing to take the time and dedication required to becoming certified is apt to follow the rules. Of course, as stated, some don't and won't. I can assure you, however, that those who don't will not keep their certification for very long. The conditions you describe are in direct violation of several of AEMSA's standards which you can read for yourself HERE. If you mix/sale liquids you may want to take a little time and familiarize yourself more with AEMSA. It's the new wave in liquids soon to be law..

"Wow" Is all I know to say! I keep my mod around my neck using a lanyard and am constantly hitting it. A 15ml last me a week and a half. Even when I use my 650mah with a CE5 tank I don't use nearly as much as you guys. Again, I won't ask where you are getting your liquids but, it could very well be the quality of it causing you guys (your hubby) to use so much. Low grade ingredients accompanied by improper mixture ratios is definately one of the primary determining factors when it comes to how long your liquid last. To be honest, it sorta sounds like the liquid may have some good ole fashion water just to stretch it a little. Yes, there are some that do that. It's odorless, tasteless and, you wouldn't know it if you had never had a quality liquid before....lol. Regardless of who you get your liquids from, I cannot over express how important it is to buy from someone who is AEMSA certified. Otherwise, who knows what you're vaping... After all, there are no current regulations which govern who and what can be mixed. Sad to say but, there are a LOT of people who have little to no training who are mixing liquids in their living room, basement, bedroom and even living rooms or garages. Those areas are completely unsanitary. Remember, you are enhaling these products and, aside from intrevenal, there is no faster way to the human blood stream than the lungs...It is for those reasons, among others, that I completely support the FDA requiring suppliers to be AEMSA certified. Just some food for thought there. After all, it is the reason most stop smoking.. Right? So, why take a chance that you may get something even worse than the 4000 chemicals in analogs. There are some crazies out there you know... Vape On!

I too switch it up although my regular flavor is a tobacco blend (Sweet Carolina). I'm not going to ask where you are getting your liquids simply because it really doesn't matter. But, if you're spending $12 bucks a week.. Well, that's a little steep. $18 for 50ml isn't a bad price but, $20 for 60ml is even better.. Vape On!!

The title to this thread is more than a little mis-leading. Nowhere in the article does it even remotely suggest the FDA is set to ban online sales. In fact, the suggested proposal to ban online sales derived from e-cigarette executives as a proposition to appease the FDA and, is nothing more than just that, a proposal. The article contains absolutely no information on the FDA's position on the proposal. Regardeless, even if such regulation was inacted, the FDA would be hard pressed to enforce the regulations on foreign companies. Their authority is limited to US based companies. I think we all know who is behind the attempts to regulate vaping equipment and supplies; the tobacco industry. I personally do not believe any such ban will ever produce. What I do believe will happen is the FDA will require all liquid manufacturers to become AEMSA certified or, perhaps even create their own certification process. It's not like the gov. isn't already big enough with too much intrusion.. Right?