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The Joye 510 and the Joye eGo use the same type of atomizers, and if you buy the 510 cartomizers those will work on both as well. The main difference between the two besides size is the eGo has amazing battery life. I get a solid 6-10 hours on one battery. I know how you feel about it not looking like a real cigarette and that was actually a problem I faced when I first started. That problem actually pushed me back into smoking again. Probably wont do the same for you but just understand that the smaller the battery the shorter the battery life. With most of the "ANALOG" looking e-cigs you are lucky to get an hour and a half, in my experience anyways. Most of the time I was only getting 30-40 minutes. However if the looking like an analog is important for you try the KR808 from the VT store http://www.vaportalkstore.com/categories/Revolution-e-Cig/. I had a similar device and it wasnt too bad. However if you want Great vapor production, Great flavor, and Great battery life then I recommend the eGo. Honestly it's what is keeping me going. Also check out this review by GrimmGreen for the eGo. He is a no BS kind of reviewer, and you will get a good idea as far as the size of the eGo. In all honesty though I wish I would have known about how great it would be to have a PV that has LONG battery life. It makes it so much easier. In my opinion its one less thing to worry about. If you add a drip tip to the mix it becomes even easier. Last but not least throw in a couple of cartos and its like vaping becomes such an easy habit to take on. The learning curve is still there but it becomes just so easy. More important to me than the PV looking like a cigarette is that I want it to be closer to the ease of use of just lighting up, and the set up I mentioned pretty much does that. Well as close as it can for an electronic device.

Yeah Arno at Awesome Vapor is great. I am stationed in Korea and when I order stuff from Awesome vapor I get my stuff quicker than Amazon.com even if the weight is the same. I have not ordered from Vapor Talk store yet.... But pay day is soon and I have heard raves about some of the flavors here. As far as the eGo.... Yep i think it is perfect. Its like the best of both worlds for noobs. Kind of an intro to mods. I absolutely love my eGo and even if I jump into mods I will still use it ritually. I have been free of any cig for two days and vaping for a week. This eGo made me want to quite smoking. Well maybe not made me but its an amazing product.

I have actually heard about ecigs since like 2007 or 2008. One of the guys I worked with had one and was just smoking anywhere he wanted and I liked the idea but I couldnt find too much info on them at the time. Earlier this year however It seemed like everyone here were I am stationed in Korea had one and it spiked my interest. First I bought the Blu ecigs and a Joye 510. I bought two because after hearing about the shipping problems for the Blu Ecig on the forums, and not too mention how bad they sucked, I bought the Joye 510. Actually I bought the 510 after seeing the review by Chris and Sean. And In one of their videos they mentioned Awesome Vapor and thats where I bought my first kit. Arno is great! Actually once I decide to give it another shot I bought my eGo kit from Awesome Vapor. Bought the eGo because of Grimm Greens review on it. Well thats my story, and the reason I am a Grimm Green supporter! LOL! I am always looking for product reviews and I hate the reviews that people get paid for. Grimm is just straight foward as well as Chris and Sean. Actually to Chris and Sean.... Guys I miss your product reviews. Did you guys stop doing them?

Well then I shall try the RY4 then! If it's too strong then it will be my weekend vape! Either way I saw many positive comments about RY4 just never knew about how strong a flavor it is! Thanks man. Really appreciate it!

JKimbo what tobacco flavors do you prefer and manufacturer? Maybe just the juice I use isn't that great! The beer overpowered the juice flavor and I had absolutely no TH! I think I will try adding extra flavor to special weekend bottles though!

So I guess my next question is this...... What do you guys do that keeps you successful when drinking and vaping? Not that I think I would fail. Did you wait until you had swapped addictions? Or were you just satisfied with it outright? Don't get me wrong I LOVE vaping. I honestly could care less about analogs now, but I was lusting after analogs tonight when I had a few beers. Ended up calling it quits and going home. Wanted to free myself of the temptation. Successful as I may have been I still want to enjoy my nights out when I do happen to drink.

Thanks for the quick reply! Actually I kinda feel stupid! Lol! That just makes too much sense! Thanks!

Ok so I need some help! Tonight is the first night I've ever not smoked when drinking! I decided vaping and drinking don't go well together. Basically after I drink a beer the flavor of the vapor disappears. So I need either some tips that have helped all of you, or maybe just a stronger flavored juice! Tobacco flavors preferably! I'm aware that nothing will taste like an analog! Just I need a strong defined flavor. Just I enjoy the tobacco flavors right now. But I really need something strong when I drink! I don't think its the nice levels! I'm vaping 34 or 36 mg. So I'm sure I'm good there. Any ideas? Oh I'm using a Joye eGo with a normal atty and I'm direct dripping. I have two LR 510 attys coming soon I hope. Other than that any other suggestions? Thanks! Fighting hard right now but refuse to give in still have not smoked and will not!

Hey Im new here as well. However I have used the Blu ecigs before. They were not cutting it for me. The vapor production just sucked. So I listened to the people on the forums and got a Joye 510. MUCH BETTER. I Had my own issues with e-cigs and had gotten frustrated. However I had gone back to analogs before the eGo and I have that now. Lets just say WOW! Amazing vapor and LONG battery life to go with it. As for taking the vapor into your mouth then to your lungs, with the Joye 510 and eGo you can do that if you want with a good TH to. Just trust the forum these people will not lead you in the wrong direction. Everyone here has been where you are myself included. Just dont give up. I know it sucks to fork over more cash, but in this case buying a 510 starter kit or an eGo starter kit WILL save you money at the start and in the long run. At least if you buy them you will be getting your moneys worth. Just research and you will find all you need to get what you want out of the vaping experience. Also when buying your next kit research companies. Or just get your kit here. Either way make sure you get it from a good company.