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I can identify I have tried a ridiculous number of flavors over the last 4 months and there are only 3 I can vape all day. When I first started vaping if you told me that 4 months later my three all day Vapes would be Spearmint, Candy Cane(peppermint), and Strawberry I would have laughed. Try some outside the box stuff. I have developed a routine with my flavors now. From Breakfast-Dinner it is all Mints, mostly Candy Cane, then all night and in the morning it is Strawberry Fields. The only time that changes is when I am drinking, especially on the lake where we are drinking all day, its all Strawberry Fields. Mints do not go with Makers Mark very well for me.

I found Sweet-Vapes Traditional Tobacco to be very much like an analog. I haven't wanted it in a long time but when I did it hit the spot big time. 80pg-20vg in 24mg was the ticket for me. Best steeped about a week I thought.

In with Tam, I only use 1300mah Vision Spinners right now unless all of them are dead and that hasn't happened yet lol.

You just made the point I was trying to make much better than I did lol.

4 more Davide Minis. Best glass tank for those on the go imo. Love my KPT2 but mostly at home just so bulky. I think the Davide mini might have better flavor by a smidgen too.

Discount Vapers has them back in stock now.. Love those things grabbed 4 more for the wife and I.

Yea Sweet-Vapes has a disclosure on their site, I almost bought a couple for those "every once in a while" liquids just to try and they have a pic of it up. They didn't mention it was forthcoming though. That's good to know Edit for they just added this to it since last night: "YES, the Mini ProTank 2 looks exactly like the Mini ProTank 1 on the outside. All the pieces can be disassembled to replace the glass, just like the full size ProTank 2, but you can not use your own drip tip on it. An upgraded version where you can replace the drip tip is set to be released in 4 - 6 months, this is straight from our Kanger Rep."

Trying things. It's just experimenting and in general I like a lot of flavor. I was also using plastic tanks when I made that order and extra flavor was more important then. I also order 70-30 instead of the VapeDudes standard 50-50 but am experimenting with that too. Like I said I have ordered a ton of liquid since starting and generally have liked extra flavor in those I liked. I just wish there was somewhere to taste before I buy that I trust their liquids in my area too. Would have saved me probably close to a grand these last 4 months lol. There is one shop opening soon I am anxious to visit called Vintage Vapors.

And like I said, if it becomes a widely accepted or mandated set of standards I am certain both of my 3 that aren't certified will become so. Troy like you I want to help those that are starting out. Help them save their own life like I feel like I have done with my own. I came really close to investing and opening a big shop here, really big, when I first started bet felt like I lacked the knowledge to do it properly, the uncertainty of regulation scared me, and it was for me just too big of a risk. I have not closed the door to that possibility but had pretty in depth affiliate discussions with several liquid suppliers and did more research than the average vaper would I think. I am pretty anal retentive when it comes to investing money. I feel really confident those three suppliers I use personally are producing a safe quality product using all the necessary safety standards and top notch ingredients.

Because those three are so good and I have learned at this point what category I like. I don't want to come off wrong, but its nothing for me to order 15-20 bottles of different flavors on a whim. Especially at first. I thought anything I liked to eat or drink I would also like to vape. I know a lot of people that love the flavors I didn't like. That's why I sent you all those bottles in the hopes you would like what wasn't my taste. Not once have I not liked a flavor from them because it tasted nasty or unlike what it was supposed to. Never a chemical or mediciney taste like Dekang, Vaporleaf, Nicquid, Nucapure, MBV, and Mountain Oak. You are the first person I have sent my VapeDudes leftovers that haven't sent messages saying how much they like them. I have sent a lot around to people since joining VT. I just don't take it personal, and if I tried 30 of anything....pizzas, vegetables, fruits, sodas, whatever.....there would be some I love, some I like, abs some I can't stand. Doesn't mean they are bad, just not to my taste. All the flavors I have tried none measure up to VapeDudes Spearmint, Candy Cane, and Strawberry Fields for my taste. For my wife she prefers ECblends Peppermint to VapeDudes Candy Cane. It's all so subjective and taste good or bad is up to the individual that is tasting it. I am completely comfortable with. I haven't tried Sweet-Vapes mint flavors because I don't see a reason to lol. With that said I completely trust the processes and QC in place with VapeDudes, ECblends, abd Sweet-Vapes above anyone else but that's just me. They have a pretty good track record overall.

End of month has nothing to do with it lol. With VapeDudes I have loved 3 flavors and hated like 30 or more. Thing is I have tried tons of others and none even come close to measuring up to those three. That's why I like VapeDudes. My wife likes ECblends best. I like sweet-Vapes ok but mainly for hardware to be honest. ECblends is AEMSA certified at least lol. I would think VapeDudes and sweet-Vapes will when it is mandatory or even to a point that it matters to the masses. As of right now they are the only three I will order from outside our vape night thing trying new stuff based on consistency and reputation. My attitude toward this today is that I read the forum all the time. Right now, this is my thing I guess. The first time I have ever seen anything about this organization posted comes from two people who work in the industry at least part time and they are saying they will only buy from companies with this certification with a few exceptions. Then I read the list and both Nicquid and Mountain Oak Vapors are on the list and they are two of the most perfumey chemical tasting liquids I have ever tried. There are a lot of beginners here and I think at this point there are very good suppliers that are not on the list and just wanted to interject that. As always taste is subjective. In short regulation is good, uniformity and standards are good, but its too early to make a blanket statement that being on this list equals good and not being on it equates to convicts and bathtub labs lol.

VapeDudes, Sweet-Vapes, and ECblends are all 3 great IMO

Dam that last post was pretty harsh. How did we get from non AEMSA certified suppliers to convicts and stereotyping forum members? It's a big leap to say the least. All I am saying is for me, it's too early to limit my choices to those few founding members and preclude places like sweet-Vapes, VapeDudes, Fuzion, and other popular places that have established reputations. I do agree a mandatory certification, licensing, inspections etc... are all a must and are all forthcoming.

Of everything I have tried, Dekang is by far the worst. Vile and disgusting. If that's what I tried first I would most likely have a pack of Camel lights in my pocket if I am being totally honest.

Keep in mind that is 5ml between 2 people. A lot if people on here claim to vape 5-6ml per day alone. I do not see how it is possible. And please do not mistake my questions as sarcasm or intended to belittle the AEMSA at all. As someone who runs businesses in a very highly regulated environment I understand fully the need for standards and accountability to those standards. I read theirs earlier and agree fully with them. I just do not think it needs to be assumed those on that list are the only ones adhering to rigid standards with their production. As Troy said above, I am certain there are fees some do not want to pay. Being in the automotive industry there are literally dozens of rating agencies that will certify you for a fee and you can promote the certification. I am 100% all for requirements to meet standards for liquid production and that it needs to be uniform across the industry. I guess my bigger point is until there is uniformity with regards to standards and requirement under law to meet those standards being on or not being on this list means less to me than my own research and reputation amongst the vaping community.

I agree with this 100%

Holy Vaping Batman! Well, I guess if it were the only flavor you vaped. I go through about 2ml a day, the wife more like 3 or 4. Thats an average of 5 per day, and in 10 days, thats 50ml so its not that unreasonable. My wife knocked the bottom out of a 30ml bottle of ECBlends Peppermint in less than 10 days lol. And they are AEMSA certified lol. I will probably put more stake in the AEMSA thing when more mainstream companies come on board. I do think monitoring and regulation is key when dealing with anything being ingested, but I also think with a little research one can deduce good suppliers from bad suppliers. I will not be upset at all with FDA mandates, even if the fees and such force the prices up a tad just like taxes are going to in the near future, a certification and QC process.

I keep seeing this AEMSA popping up everywhere on the forum, and there are only a few vendors on the list mostly those I and those I know have never heard of. This appears to be the entire list of members: Charter Members BlueMist Vaping Hot Vapes iVape / JP ventures LLC Juicy Vapor, LLC Kalamazoo Vapor Shop Mister-E-Liquid NicVape NicQuid Texas Select Vapor VaporCast General Members MADVAPES TV Labs E-lixer Two Peas in a Pod Gourmet E Liquid ECBlend Mountain Oak Vapors At least one on this list I visited was so dirty, and the guy at the counter was dipping. YES dipping, and spitting in a cup by the counter. This was only a few feet from the back room where they mix. Who polices this? I want to know more about AEMSA before putting any credence whatsoever in their ratings. Maybe as a supplier who doesnt appear to be on this list from the AEMSA website you can shed some light and help me understand why I should put any stake in a self-regulating agency like this one that appears to have been founded and started by a few lesser known liquid manufacturers.

LOL Hissy. I will just jump out of the discussion about this. I feel like I know better than to put too much stake in this, but felt I had to interject so complete and total noobs wouldn't read this and put too much credence in this agency or its ratings. They should understand these are liquid manufacturers, for the most part some I have never even heard mentioned anywhere, who have formed this group. This is not some impartial third party ratings agency like JD Powers or Consumer Reports would be with regard to other items. Everyone has to find their own comfort level with what they ingest and if this makes one feel better then by all means pay attention to it. I am just providing a counterpoint. I am approached every day by at least one agency offering their stamp of approval for my business and our business practices, for a nominal fee of course.

I didn't mean to sound so harsh, but its kind of like a group of businesses of any type getting together and making a non profit group to say their business is "certified" in some way. The only thing I trust less than politicians when it comes to full disclosure and honesty is corporate America. If there is to be an agency to regulate and ensure quality and consistency, imo, it should be comprised of those completely separated from the benefit of profitability for their ratings. That doesn't appear to be the case here.

"The Charter Members of AEMSA decided to create an organization to facilitate, develop and self-regulate standards designed to provide consumers with much higher degrees of confidence in the manufacturing processes of these products. AEMSA advocates the responsible and professional approach to the manufacturing process and hopes to contribute to, and assist with, the actual regulatory formation of reasonable, effective and sustainable regulations for the manufacture and distribution of American made e-liquids in the marketplace." Charter Members BlueMist Vaping Hot Vapes iVape / JP ventures LLC Juicy Vapor, LLC Kalamazoo Vapor Shop Mister-E-Liquid NicVape NicQuid Texas Select Vapor VaporCast ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not sure how much credence I would put in a governing agency over standards that was started and is run by companies that are inherently in competition with each other. It may be all with good intentions, but the lack of names on the list of top notch suppliers like VapeDudes, Sweet-Vapes, Fuzion Vapers, Mt Baker Vapors (Ok I dont like this one but a lot do) and others held in very high regard I most likely will not pay much attention to their ratings. Just my 2 cents.

Not to hijack, but when you clean, do you keep any sort of track as to the flavors that the coil came out of or are they completely void of the flavor? I have been under the assumption when it starts to taste burned, then the coils is "bad" not "dirty" and have never tried to clean them at all outside of at first when I was using the T2s.

To be fair, I have never tried cleaning wicks with any of the bottom feeding tanks. I tried with the T2s and never was able to get the previous flavor out of the wicks. As cheap as they are, I just find it easier (for me) to just replace. Its super easy when you have very few flavors you like lol. I try new flavors by dripping just to see if I like the taste, which I usually do not.

I went to Discount Vapers to find this new "Nook" Glass tank, couldnt find them in stock there.......

I never clean coils and only use one coil-tank per flavor. I do not think it possible to TRULY remove the flavor from a coil, especially the stronger flavors. You might could go from one fruit to another or from Peppermint to Spearmint without tasting too much of the old flavor but for me, I just have tanks assigned to certain flavors and never really mix them.