Bebop

We just got the "use non-medical masks" whenever you go out order a few days ago, too. My SO was telling his boss that he's thankful I never throw anything away because a few years ago I purchased a box of 50 charcoal infused masks when there was a lot of flu going around. We had them on hand and now they've become very useful. I feel vindicated.  *sniffs*  

I don’t even know what day or time it is....
I'm in Florida now.  It’s pretty much stay at home.  All but “essential” businesses are closed, schools and malls closed. But there are still a lot of people out and about.  Lots of masks.  It’s weird.  I personally am devistated.  I am a music teacher full time no more.  I’m building up an on-line business on the side.  My wife is lucky, she gets to work from home and it’s saving us.  There are a few reports of cases in my area but it’s mostly southeast, Miami area hit the hardest.  My new hobby is fishing.  There is a lot of time for that.  Most in my family are doing fine and can work from home.  We’ll all get thru this but it looks like another month at least.  I really feel for the families suffering thru this.  There are many not so lucky and deeply impacted by this.  Hang in there, folks. We’ll make it.  I don’t know a single person afflicted with the disease but bless them all. 

this product and coil is designed for CBD.   Is that what you want?

whoa!
 
I can barely reply I'm laughing so hard.  

That's right.  These commercials are just a regurgitation of the fake news stories. 

That's right.  These commercials are just a regurgitation of the fake news stories. 

Our locale TV "news" stations have been having interviews with all kinds of so-called "experts" on vaping and health. The only problem is, they know virtually nothing about vaping more than the bull pucky they've seen on the TV news...

Boy, the anti-vaping commercials are poring it on thick in my parts.  It's outrageous and qualifies as fake news 😁

Boy, the anti-vaping commercials are poring it on thick in my parts.  It's outrageous and qualifies as fake news 😁

The latest CDC report
 
26 dead and 1200 ill.
but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 

Haha.  I remember that😀  we've had our share of geniuses. 

I read another article just today about a high school girl who became very ill after vaping. She at least admitted that she sometimes used THC cartridges... but it was only rarely.
I'm with you, @Bebop. I, too, think the numbers are fudged, it's more likely to be something along the lines of 95% vaped THC and 5% were from other previous health issues. My numbers are much more likely, but that's just my opinion.

The latest CDC report
 
26 dead and 1200 ill.
but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 

The latest CDC report
 
26 dead and 1200 ill.
but then they say only 75% confirmed THC. 
so, what, the other 25% are liars?......
of course, I'm being facetious, I have no doubt that some of the deaths may have involved vapers with pre-existing health issues and were nowhere near THC. 
but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are fudged here.  I just watched a news interview with a couple who's college age daughter got I'll "by vaping" - 5 minutes of the girl's parents professing the innocence of their sweet little girl and when the interviewer pressed further, "oh well, there was that one time when we caught her vaping THC but we believe her that she is not doing it now"......right.....
I don't want it to seem like I have no sympathy for these people who are actually suffering from this.  I do.  It's a terrible tragedy. 
But the truth will set us free (get ti the bottom if this).  Is that too much to ask? 

https://www.leafly.com/news/industry/california-vape-maker-kushy-punch-caught-making-illegal-products
California vape maker Kushy Punch caught making illegal products
On that note, here's an article about one California vape company that's licensed making and selling unlicensed THC product and pushing it out the back door.

California is much like Michigan in that regard.  It's appaling.  I'm glad to be leaving.  I've been here my whole life and I love the state but it's politics are out of control now and it's entirely too far left for my moderate tastes.  I feel a great deal of sympathy for those who may have benefitted from the vaping movement and will now likely struggle.  The push to drive it underground  will no doubt create tragedies to come.  I will help as many others as I can, but geez, the bureaucracy is reactionary and misguided.  pisses me off too. 😀

When Michigan gets 2.1 billion dollars a year from the master tobacco settlement, sin taxes, and of course campaign donations while cigarette smoking is at it's lowest ever, the mystery becomes pretty clear.  Add to that that Michigan issued bonds against anticipated master tobacco agreement income, and is, as always hurting for money.  I'm not freaking out but I'm madder than a hornet. I've watched numerous "hearings" and they are paid political propaganda.  Cherry picked panel members as well as politicians putting on a B rate movie.  Hardly a thread of truth in the entire production.  One panelist with a prefix Dr. called the U.K. Royal College of Physicians a couple doctors sitting around making unfounded decisions.  The FDA is bumbling around obviously incapable of drafting even final guidelines.  The CDC is obviously under pressure to support the political stance on vaping.  Our president sites pillow talk as his decision to ban flavors.  Insane!!  Maniacally Insane!!!  Mass media jumps in singing the same song.  No wonder, every other commercial is from big pharma who has a vested interest in seeing vaping disappear. 
 
Tomorrow I have more nicotine and flavor concentrates coming in.  Soon I will be set for the rest of my lifetime.  In the big picture that does nothing for the countless people who will go back to analogs, the black market that will fill the void, the people who will never have the opportunity to try vaping.  These decisions will kill.  Good for the government as the average smoker dies 10 years sooner than the non smoker and will not be collecting social security or medicare.  Leave it to the government.  This time their taking a health crisis that was created by the black market and driving an industry deeper into that black market.  And I'm sure the black market will do a better job of checking I.D.'s.  

While we're banning things... why are cigarettes and alcohol still legal? Hmmm?

Why are people still vaping THC from carts?
 
This is mind boggling to me.  Do they live under a rock?  What don’t I understand about this problem?
 
 

Right now it depends on where you are
and, if this federal ban happens. 
 
but here's a snap shot of what is happening locally in Michigan...
 
 

Good to know. I was beginning to wonder...   

Contrary to popular belief, I have not died yet 😋

Tam to the rescue!
 
cany and I were about to cut our throats......😂

Tam to the rescue!
 
cany and I were about to cut our throats......😂

Good for you, Cany
there is a lot of bad chit out there. Right now.  I still have hope for The future