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Smoke-free cigarettes Or, how I learned to stop smoking and feed my chemical addiction Colin Schultz http://www.theontarion.ca/viewarticle.php?id_pag=2164 I'm sure every smoker has thought of their health at least once when going to light up. But, maybe that same smoker can't, or doesn't want to, kick their cancer sticks. What if I told you there was a way to keep your nicotine, but lose all the nastiness? That seems to have been the line of thought researchers had when they developed electronic cigarettes. Electronic cigarettes, or e-cigs from here on out, contain a few marvels of modern electronics. Inside the small metal casing are a rechargeable battery, a miniature atomizer and a chamber for a nicotine cartridge. The cartridges contain water, nicotine and propylene glycol. When the user inhales, the battery warms up the atomizer, which causes nicotine vapour to be sprayed into their mouth. At $80 for the e-cig itself and $12.50 for 100 cigarettes worth of refills, it seems competitive. Of course, none of this means anything if a few important questions aren't answered: What are the effects of nicotine on your health? Will anyone actually use these contraptions? Additionally, if they do catch on, will people start who never smoked before? "I definitely see people taking interest in it if they've already smoked, because most smokers are aware of all the things that smoking does to you," said Kristin Earles, team leader for Leave the Pack Behind campaign at the University of Guelph. "I see it as maybe being an alternative, but I don't see it as something that people are going to start doing . . . because they're told that it's safer." One of the common complaints about other nicotine delivery devices used by smokers is that they don't satisfy the routine involved with smoking. To try to address this concern, e-cigs contain a small red LED to simulate a smouldering tip, while the user blows out water vapour instead of smoke. But are they really safe? The cartridges contain a hazardous, or even lethal, dose of nicotine. The magic number in toxicology (the study of poisons) is the LD50, or the dose required to be lethal to fifty per-cent of the population. The LD50 for nicotine is 0.5 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. This means that it would take 22 mg to kill the average cheerleader or 55 mg to kill the average defensive lineman. Your weight likely falls somewhere in between, but at 16 mg of nicotine per cartridge, you'll probably at least get pretty sick. What makes the cartridges especially dangerous is the possibility that nicotine could enter the body as a liquid, rather than strictly as a gas, if you're clumsy. In that case, it would only take between four or eight milligrams to do serious damage "None of the medical doctors have ever said that this is a healthy alternative," said Earles. "They are taking out all of the carcinogenic compounds, but there is research being done proving that nicotine might actually have different transformable compounds. That once they are in your body, they can transform and become carcinogenic." The studies linking tobacco to diseases usually consider the cigarettes as a whole, instead of just the nicotine. So, not much is known about nicotine's effects or metabolites. To try to cope with the risk of overdosing, manufacturers have installed safety devices that cut off the e-cig's operation if too many puffs are taken in a short time frame, or if they last over eight seconds. E-cig users must realize that nicotine is a potentially lethal substance, and should be treated respectfully. Still, it's better than getting nicotine and all that other nastiness. "From what I can understand talking to smokers [is that] even though nicotine is what they're addicted to in the smoke, I don't think they're going to feel that sense of relaxation or euphoria that they get from the cigarette," said Earles. The chemical addiction to nicotine that smoker's feel should be satisfied, but whether the smoke and mirrors are adequate to replicate the routine of lighting up is up to them to find out.

Not sure if I understood you correctly. So long as the "white cart" inside the orange cart is OUT of the cart, or at least exposed enough that you can actually get the liquid in the cotton rather than the walls of the orange cart then your good to go. Yea I didn't realized how bad some of my suits smelled until I stopped smoking. As for the morning smoke, that will pass but I"ll be honest I still get that morning crave, I just head up to my office and Esmoke right away while checking my emails and I'm usually ok.

Update: I just got an email today that the items are ready to ship, so far the turn around is fast I'm pretty excited about trying these flavors, I'm picky and other than Cola I haven't found any other flavors that I enjoy. So here is to keeping fingers crossed

Hey Vacker! No question is lame, you should have seen some of the questions I posted back when I first started <!-- s:D --><!-- s:D --> It's happened to all of us, and personally I think it tastes horrible, I hate it. Usually the reason for this is when your dripping rather than just using the cartridges, or your dripping flavored juice on an already full cartridge. The carts are to full and thus the liquid is coming up through the hole. Also keep in mind that it's better to push the cart up with a pin or a paper clip as you stated below, trying to drop it in cart without hitting the walls is tough. (if you due get juice on the wall of the cart it WILL go in your mouth) Keep in mind that adding to much liquid can also lead to flooding your atomizer. Yup this is normal, just swish with some water and spit, or dab your tongue on a napkin, which ever suits you better This is normal. It does not matter if the screw holes are aligned, there is enough room in the threaded area to allow for air to enter into the atomizer. If your getting hard draws it could be because you have flooded your atomizer, something I just did the other day. Drawing from the Peewee should be like sucking air through a small straw. If it gets to the point where you feel like your drinking a very thick milkshake or it feels like "sucking sand through a McDonald's straw" then something is wrong. Most likely that you will need to clean your atomizer. Again there is no guarantee that it will work the same again. But if yours was anything like mine was I would have went back to analogs at the rate I was sucking on that thing. Sometime pulling of the atomizer turning it around and blowing in it "the wrong way" will help clear up the gunk. Very true, I like Steve's carts much better. Here is some info about how to clean your automizer e. I also find that using rubbing alcohol works really well but make sure you rinse afterwards otherwise the alcohol taste will be left behind

Wow I'm surprised especially since I hear quite often that the DES901 is "so great" I have to say I own a PeeWee and I often hear that "it doesn't produce enough smoke" etc but as you can see from my video review I have one smoking PeeWee. Thanks for the post

In your personally opinion do you think the DES produces the same amount of vapor as the SuperMini/PeeWee?

This was on the Puresmoker website today "Wednesday January 21st through Friday January 23rd, PureSmoker will be doing its quarterly inventory. During this time, you are free to order anything and everything you see available, however, orders will not be shipped until Monday, January 26th. Once our inventory is complete, you will not only see full product available, but also a couple new and exciting products. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. We do ask that you give us 24-48 hours to respond during this VERY busy time." Couple new and exciting products hmmm? I'm on it! Can't wait to see what he bring in stock now....

Alright guys I just ordered some E-Juice from http://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/ I specifically ordered this to try out the None-PG formula which uses a high food-grade vegetable glycerin. JCJ says it's a "safe consumable compound used in many desserts and sauces" sounds good to me. I've read that a very few have had issues when smoking the more commonly used PG. I myself don't have to many issues with PG however every so often when I vape during long periods of time and/or take large drags I tend to have a harder time breathing. I wouldn't say it's anything to worry about just very slight and only so often. I'm hoping JCJ can produce a similar amount of smoke with their none PG version. I plan to post a video review as soon as it comes in the mail! I ordered the sample pack which includes the following flavors: Original Tobacco, Wild Cherry, Vanilla Ice Cream, Chocolate Almond Decadence, Arctic Mint, Tennessee Cured, Peach Cobbler, Sweet Strawberry, Mint Chocolate Madness, and Smooth Hickory

Congratulations to Mr.Obama on being the new President of These United States. I wish him the best of luck! I would also like to note by the way that he is the first president NOT to have been inaugurated before 12 noon. Was it really necessary to have the band play? Could they not have just waited? Anyway that irritated me a little

Heads up I was on the Janty website today and it looks like they are now selling Cola Carts for the Dura http://jantyusa.com/index.php?cPath=36 They also have some Kissbox sets in stock. I think it may time to go shopping pretty soon! Stimulus Checks anyone?

I have edited the above post slightly and stickied this topic.

Thanks AGS and welcome to the forum

@ AGS this is a rare case I've been smoking my E-Cig for a while now and havn't had any issues at all. Sometimes I'll get a little bit of a dry throat but a glass of water will usually fix that. We've all had the same issue after a night of drinking and smoking analogs have we not? @ Crabs it's really to bad this didn't work out for you. I really do think you should give the Johnsons Smoke Juice a try. I think I may order some just to see what it's like to smoke juice without the PG. Plus Peach Cobler sounds good. They where known for clogging up atomizers but after a recent re-do of their juice and a review from Leaford over on Youtube everything seems to be fine now.

As Royce said dripping directly on the atomizer is fine. It's also ok to use the blank cartridge, just be sure that you don't accidentally smoke it dry, meaning you have no more juice left. This will cause your atomizer to burn out. (If it starts to get a burnt taste time to drip!) You should always keep a spare atomizer on hand. Puresmoker sells them for 10 bucks. Can't beat that

January 19th, 2009 - 4:45 pm ICT by ANI - Send to a friend: Melbourne, January 19 (ANI): Despite being outlawed in Australia, electronic cigarettes that use nicotine-flavoured vapour are still being sold on the website eBay for hundreds of dollars. E-cigarettes were demonstrated at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas last week, and they have been a major attraction for smokers ever since. With the aid of battery-generated heat, these cigarettes create a flavoured vapour, which is puffed by the user in the same fashion as real smoke. The devices, commonly from Chinese manufacturers, even have tips that glow when the user inhales, simulating the ember of a real cigarette. However, safety fears attached to electronic cigarettes still remain, with reports suggesting that they are mostly sold with nicotine instead of flavoured capsules. “This looks like another insidious, manipulative attempt to hook people on smoking. I”d be very concerned about any attempts to promote smoking, especially to young people,” news.com.au quoted Health Minister Nicola Roxon as saying. A spokesperson for the Federal Department of Health and Ageing said: “The e-cigarette has not been evaluated for safety or efficacy. Nicotine has well recognised physiological and pathological effects and, as with conventional cigarettes, the e-cigarette would be expected to lead to, and sustain, nicotine addiction.” On the other hand, eBay Australia’’s spokesman said that the e-cigarette items advertised on the website would immediately be taken down if any of them was found to breach the companys policies on illegal and tobacco products. (ANI) http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/hea ... 44301.html

Glad Smokey's site is on it's way to being live again. I hope he manages to get all the bugs worked out, that forum is great for the E Smoke community

Hmmm Well the Janty Mini Fogger is supposed to have a much better draw than the PeeWee/Super Mini Just out of curiosity what MG strength of nicotine where you using, it could be that you where using? UPDATE: I was able to track the Tropical Bob down and I have no doubt he will be able to shed some light on your issues. I just sent him an email and I hope he posts here soon.

Hey crabs, Actually I have heard of this before. It may be a reaction to the Propylene Glycol however I'm not a medical doctor and can only assume. You may want to have a look at http://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/ They offer all their smoke Juice in an optional none PG formula. Perhaps you can try that out and see how things go. It could also be that your lungs are cleaning themselves out from all the years of smoking cigarettes. But then again that is purely speculation. Are you coughing more than normal? Perhaps this is causing chest pains. Either keep a close eye on it. Be sure to see your doctor if it worsens in any way! There is a gentleman that frequents E-Cig forums named Tropical Bob that I doubt has found this website as of yet. He is a Medical Doctor who is well educated in the ways of Electronic Smoking. I'll try and track him down on the web and shoot him an email to respond here.

But the Cola is so good! But yea I know what you mean, quite a few people love the Green Apple as well and it's to sweet for me. Made my stomach turn. Yet everyone else at my work thinks it's great. Maybe I'll give it another shot. As for the Riskee burnt sugar is a really good way to describe it. It's like burnt sugar with Hazelnut.

Your going to LOVE the PeeWee I've been using it now for about 3 weeks. I plan to Purchase the classic next as my power smoke for home. Let us know how you like it when it arrives, shouldn't take longer than a few days to get to your home. Steve is the best in the west!

Yes you can PG and split the bottle into 2 equal parts. I don't remember where you can buy PG on it's own but I'll do a google on it as soon as I get home from work. Why not just purchase some medium from Puresmoker.com?

So I finally got some Riskee juice in the mail and smoked it quite a bit last night at work and I have to say I'm really not that into it. I saw that almost everyone online loved it, someone even went as far as to say it was "orgasmic..." To me it's tastes like a strong version of the stock cartridges that come with your starter kit, with a burnt nut taste. I dunno I just can't taste the carmel Perhaps I need to smoke it some more. Right now I'm sticking with my Cola falvor, not THAT's good stuff. So what are your thoughts, how does it taste to you? Maybe my taste buds are shot

Ha ha Fan base I like that. As Royce said if the federal government out laws electronic for some reason then we are all SOL. Which sorta irritated me, the whole point of having states or being "These United States" was so that each State could make their own laws without the Federal government becoming involved. I guess we slowly turning into the what we originally sought after during the Civil War. CLICK HERE FOR PAGE 2: law-suits-njoy-vs-ruyan-t19s10.html

No not really. At least I haven't had that many issues with mine. My friend however did get his battery dead on arrival, but his other battery (and his new one that I just got) is working just fine. Just be sure not to let any fluid get into the battery chamber

I wish Smokey Joe the best of luck with the new server/hosting plan