Christopher

I didn't but a few people have said they pretty much gave the ecigs a thumbs up.

And so we shall. Best plan I've heard all week. "screw em'"

Well let us know how it goes, I havn't tried any of the juice from Ruyan Direct but I've heard good stuff.

Nice, good to know!

Yea I think so Thanks Lacey

Hmmm that's weird can't say I ever get like that. Usually if I vape to much I'll start to get a headache, which is the sign for me to take a break. The same feeling you get when you've had a chain smoking session. Either way I think maybe you should control it a bit if you can, that's a lot. You may also want to talk to parked and see if he will offer a discount for a larger purchase. How many packs a day did you smoke?

I I have heard nothing but good things about widows bead work! Glad that they are doing you right

Good question, that's actually quite a lot of juice your eating through. Usually it's best to listen to your body to be honest. It's bettery to purchase larger bottles as you get a discount. 30ml is only 20 bucks normally so your getting 10ml free. Most suppliers sell their juice for about the same price. If your using JC I notice most people go through it much faster than the chinese stuff, not sure why. You can cut it with glycerin if you want (there are some youtube how to videos) but your going to cut the nic level. I think Ruyandirect has some good juice prices. But not sure how their juice tastes as I've never tried it.

Be sure to watch the whole thing.....

Are you kidding me.... http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Tomatoes-linked-to-nicotine-addiction I hate tomatoes so I don't eat them. Never helped me until the ecig. Although I do love Ketchup, perhaps Heinz has been up to something this whole time!

I think at the moment everyone is sold out. The only other way to get it would be http://ruyandirect.com/ It will probably take about a week to get here. It also has to go through customs as well. I think I read somewhere in another thread that their version will fit the 510 manual batts. How many batteries do you have? If money isn't an option you can always purchase a passthrough for the 510 from http://www.Puresmoker.com Then purchase a portable power back from Bestbuy that allow USB power. Altogether though it would set you back about 80 bucks. (May also look sort of strange using it in public but it's an option!) http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8994056&st=power+pack+&type=product&id=1218007084076 The 510 battery only takes about 50 minutes to charge, so if you playing to slots I'm sure there is some place close (if not right by the machine) that you could power your ecig.

The FDA is worried about the ecig but there are products like this on the market?.... As someone already stated, I suppose with all the crooked a@@holes over at the FDA, this is perfect.

Yup your doing it right. Sometimes I just take a "fatty" hit and place it down, then repeat about 2-4 minutes later. I noticed I tend to drag more over a long period of time with the ecig, where with analogs I'd take a ton of hits in a short period of time, then go back about 20 minutes later. If that make sense. And as always your very very welcome. One more person saved

You can take your ecig on the place with no problem as well as your PPC. Just keep everything neat and tidy and always be prepared to answer questions. I've yet to hear anyone having any issues as of yet. If your going to use it on the plane, use it in the bathroom, also DO NOT blow the smoke towards the smoke alarm, it will set it off, even if only for breif second. (Even a large amount of particles can set off a smoke alarm) Some of said they've blown into the smoke alarm and all was good, others (such as Steve from Puresmoker) have had issues...lol But for the most part you can vape in their with very little issues.

Story of my life at the moment, always buying something new That's almost EXACTLY how I vape my 510, it's neat to hear someone else vape the same way. I would go with the Janty stick to be honest. Before the 510 the best vapor producing unit was the Penstyle hands down. The vapor isn't as much as the 510 but it's close, it's also normally much tastier because the chamber is much longer. The vapor also isn't as warm. The nice thing about the penstyle atomizer is that it can take a pretty good beating, you can vape much longer on it than the 510 before it starts to get warm, and even when it does, it just works better. It's not like the 510 where you have to place it down for a minute. (I can usually vape a good 5-8 minutes on a penstyle before having to put it down) The battery life on a penstyle is about 2-3 hours or so, sometimes longer. Depends on how you use it. However the Janty Stick has GREAT battery life, anywhere from 3-5 hours at times. you can also change it out if something goes wrong. Well worth it IMO. I also talked to Sean tonight and he said the Janty Stick is still going strong and he loves it more than his 510. I asked why and he stated it just works all the time. He also likes that it can be hooked up to the computer. (In case you didn't know the Janty Stick can be used as a passthrough hooked directly to the computer, it's built in. Great feature, saves you money rather than having to purchase a passthrough seprate from the normal Penstyle) And yes the Janty uses any Penstyle atomizer. Although I prefer the RN models over the DSE. In my experiance the DSE atomizer last longer, but don't work as well, the RN models don't last as long but work better. But we're talking about a month here, so having to change your RN atomizer once a month is STILL cheaper than analogs. Oh it's been one heck of a ride! I think I've vaped myself stupid

I just got home from work and I'm so tired I can barley reply to posts. But I did read over on ecf that originally they planned to have a tobacco free device, however recently changed to a tobacco based device which uses charcoal in the filter. Here i'm just going to paste the link http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/24575-smokefree-innotec-fda.html

Hmm take a look at these guys, looks like they've taken the ecig and added tobacco. Perhaps a way to bypass current FDA concerns with the ecig? Kinda killing the whole idea behind the ecig. http://www.rauchless.com/ I'm about to head out to work, late night tonight, but I'm definitely going to read up on this when I get back...

Can't argue with that!

I wonder we they use high fructose corn syrup here in the states rather than cane sugar?

Good point. Perhaps I'll get on the ball with a couple Chinese manufactures and see what they say about that. Now that you mention it I don't think the Patch or the Gum use nicotine derived from tobacco either. Vacker this is where you come in, any idea what they use?

The Krack master is at it again! Good job, that's what I call a Stick Cig!

So I found this letter on the other forum and thought I would share it here. It was sent by Vocalek to the American Lung Association > -----Original Message----- > From: VocalEK > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:17 PM > To: Carrie Martin > Subject: American Lung Association Mission > > Apparently the American Lung Association has lost sight of > its real mission in its ill-advised campaign to stamp out > electronic-cigarettes. > > The mission of the American Lung Association is to save > lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease. > > Nicotine is being studied for use in treating a multitude > of disorders and prevention of such terrible diseases as > Parkinson’s. Scientists now suspect that smokers who > can’t quit require nicotine to keep neurobiological > problems under control. > > Tens of thousands of smokers report being able to reduce or > completely eliminate their use of smoked tobacco once they > started using an electronic cigarette. The vast > majority of these folks state that they are no longer > coughing, wheezing, and/or hacking up phlegm. That > sounds like an IMPROVEMENT in lung health to me. > > But the ALA wants electronic cigarettes banned. > > Most of the electronic cigarette users tried all of the > FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) products, > but were not able to quit smoking with those products. > This may be because the NRT products provide sub-therapeutic > doses of nicotine. Perhaps one reason e-cigarettes > succeeded where other products failed is because they > provide enough nicotine to keep such conditions as > depression, anxiety, and attention deficits under control. > > Still, the ALA wants electronic cigarettes banned. > > Many, many electronic cigarette users state that they will > probably return to smoking tobacco if electronic cigarettes > become unavailable. > > Nevertheless, the ALA wants electronic cigarettes banned. > > How many lives will be cut short if the ALA gets it > way? How many more lives might have been saved if > e-cigarettes remained available and more smokers were able > to substitute them for their tobacco cigarettes? > > Explain to me, please, how the campaign against electronic > cigarettes helps the ALA fulfill its mission. THE ALA's RESPONSE --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Carrie Martin <CMartin@lungusa.org> wrote: > From: Carrie Martin <CMartin@lungusa.org> > Subject: RE: American Lung Association Mission > To: <VocalEK> > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:37 PM > To clarify, we believe e-cigarettes > are a "new drug," which require prior approval from the FDA > before they are allowed to be sold. We are not asking > that they be banned. For more information: > > Lung Association Urges FDA to Immediately Halt the Sale of > Unapproved Products > > Statement of the American Lung Association: > > The American Lung Association applauds the Food and Drug > Administration for its announcement today about > e-cigarettes. FDA’s preliminary findings show e-cigarettes > contain carcinogens and toxic chemicals, including > ingredients found in antifreeze. > > For too long, e-cigarette manufacturers have sold these > nicotine delivery devices – absent FDA review and > approval. These findings indicate FDA is serious about > enforcing the law to protect consumers from unapproved > products. > > In light of these initial findings, the American Lung > Association urges the FDA to act immediately to halt the > sale and distribution of all e-cigarettes unless the > products have been reviewed and approved for sale by the > FDA. > *sigh*

I'm sure if you talked to some of the suppliers about ordering that much they could work a deal out. Just email and ask a bunch of suppliers, worst case they will say no

Holy crap Diethylene glycol was found in the ecig! Calm down relax. I've had a few emails over the concern of Diethylene glycol. Are you really going to use that as your excuse to go back to smoking? Come on. Sit down and let's get educated about our new little freind. (Keep in mind that most juice does not contain DG) I'm not saying DG is good for you, and I'm not denying that the FDA actually found DG but you have to compare what's in an ecig to what's in an analog. It's a MAJOR step closer to a nic delivering device that contains MUCH less crap than analog. Nobody can argue that, not even the FDA. You can find more about DG here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylene_glycol This is what's normally found in an ecig: NICOTINE (FROM TOBACCO LEAF) DIMETHYLPYRAZINE ACETYLPYRAZINE LINAL0OL PROPYLENE GLYCOL Flavor (Peach, Cola etc) Oh by the way here is a list of the additives found in your favorite cigarette.... Acetanisole Acetic Acid Acetoin Acetophenone 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran Acetylpyrazine 2-Acetylpyridine 3-Acetylpyridine 2-Acetylthiazole Aconitic Acid dl-Alanine Alfalfa Extract Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil Allyl Hexanoate Allyl Ionone Almond Bitter Oil Ambergris Tincture Ammonia Ammonium Bicarbonate Ammonium Hydroxide Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic Ammonium Sulfide Amyl Alcohol Amyl Butyrate Amyl Formate Amyl Octanoate alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde Amyris Oil trans-Anethole Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil Anise Anise Star, Extract and Oils Anisyl Acetate Anisyl Alcohol Anisyl Formate Anisyl Phenylacetate Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate 1-Arginine Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil Ascorbic Acid 1-Asparagine Monohydrate 1-Aspartic Acid Balsam Peru and Oil Basil Oil Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil Beeswax White Beet Juice Concentrate Benzaldehyde Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal Benzoic Acid, Benzoin Benzoin Resin Benzophenone Benzyl Alcohol Benzyl Benzoate Benzyl Butyrate Benzyl Cinnamate Benzyl Propionate Benzyl Salicylate Bergamot Oil Bisabolene Black Currant Buds Absolute Borneol Bornyl Acetate Buchu Leaf Oil 1,3-Butanediol 2,3-Butanedione 1-Butanol 2-Butanone 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil Butyl Acetate Butyl Butyrate Butyl Butyryl Lactate Butyl Isovalerate Butyl Phenylacetate Butyl Undecylenate 3-Butylidenephthalide Butyric Acid] Cadinene Caffeine Calcium Carbonate Camphene Cananga Oil Capsicum Oleoresin Caramel Color Caraway Oil Carbon Dioxide Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder Carob Bean and Extract beta-Carotene Carrot Oil Carvacrol 4-Carvomenthenol 1-Carvone beta-Caryophyllene beta-Caryophyllene Oxide Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract Cassia Bark Oil Cassie Absolute and Oil Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute Cedar Leaf Oil Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana Cedrol Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin Cellulose Fiber Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract Chicory Extract Chocolate Cinnamaldehyde Cinnamic Acid Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract Cinnamyl Acetate Cinnamyl Alcohol Cinnamyl Cinnamate Cinnamyl Isovalerate Cinnamyl Propionate Citral Citric Acid Citronella Oil dl-Citronellol Citronellyl Butyrate itronellyl Isobutyrate Civet Absolute Clary Oil Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract Cocoa Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder Coconut Oil Coffee Cognac White and Green Oil Copaiba Oil Coriander Extract and Oil Corn Oil Corn Silk Costus Root Oil Cubeb Oil Cuminaldehyde para-Cymene 1-Cysteine Oh but wait there's more! Decanoic Acid 1-Decanol 2-Decenal Dehydromenthofurolactone Diethyl Malonate Diethyl Sebacate 2,3-Diethylpyrazine Dihydro Anethole 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine Dill Seed Oil and Extract meta-Dimethoxybenzene para-Dimethoxybenzene 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol Dimethyl Succinate 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone delta-Dodecalactone gamma-Dodecalactone para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde Ethyl 10-Undecenoate Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate Ethyl Acetate Ethyl Acetoacetate Ethyl Alcohol Ethyl Benzoate Ethyl Butyrate Ethyl Cinnamate Ethyl Decanoate Ethyl Fenchol Ethyl Furoate Ethyl Heptanoate Ethyl Hexanoate Ethyl Isovalerate Ethyl Lactate Ethyl Laurate Ethyl Levulinate Ethyl Maltol Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate Ethyl Myristate Ethyl Nonanoate Ethyl Octadecanoate Ethyl Octanoate Ethyl Oleate Ethyl Palmitate Ethyl Phenylacetate Ethyl Propionate Ethyl Salicylate Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate Ethyl Valerate Ethyl Vanillin 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde 4-Ethylguaiacol para-Ethylphenol 3-Ethylpyridine Eucalyptol Farnesol D-Fenchone Fennel Sweet Oil Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute Fig Juice Concentrate Food Starch Modified Furfuryl Mercaptan 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One Galbanum Oil Genet Absolute Gentian Root Extract Geraniol Geranium Rose Oil Geranyl Acetate Geranyl Butyrate Geranyl Formate Geranyl Isovalerate Geranyl Phenylacetate Ginger Oil and Oleoresin 1-Glutamic Acid 1-Glutamine Glycerol Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated Grape Juice Concentrate Guaiac Wood Oil Guaiacol Guar Gum 2,4-Heptadienal gamma-Heptalactone Heptanoic Acid 2-Heptanone 3-Hepten-2-One 2-Hepten-4-One 4-Heptenal trans -2-Heptenal Heptyl Acetate omega-6-Hexadecenlactone gamma-Hexalactone Hexanal Hexanoic Acid 2-Hexen-1-Ol 3-Hexen-1-Ol cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate 2-Hexenal 3-Hexenoic Acid trans-2-Hexenoic Acid cis-3-Hexenyl Formate Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate Hexyl Acetate Hexyl Alcohol Hexyl Phenylacetate 1-Histidine Honey Hops Oil Hydrolyzed Milk Solids Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone Hydroxycitronellal 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone Hyssop Oil Immortelle Absolute and Extract alpha-Ionone beta-Ionone alpha-Irone Isoamyl Acetate Isoamyl Benzoate Isoamyl Butyrate Isoamyl Cinnamate Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate Isoamyl Isovalerate Isoamyl Octanoate Isoamyl Phenylacetate Isobornyl Acetate Isobutyl Acetate Isobutyl Alcohol Isobutyl Cinnamate Isobutyl Phenylacetate Isobutyl Salicylate 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol Isobutyraldehyde Isobutyric Acid d,l-Isoleucine alpha-Isomethylionone 2-Isopropylphenol Isovaleric Acid Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil Kola Nut Extract Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin Lactic Acid Lauric Acid Lauric Aldehyde Lavandin Oil Lavender Oil Lemon Oil and Extract Lemongrass Oil 1-Leucine Levulinic Acid Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder Lime Oil Linalool Linalool Oxide Linalyl Acetate Linden Flowers Lovage Oil And Extract 1-Lysine] Mace Powder, Extract and Oil Magnesium Carbonate Malic Acid Malt and Malt Extract Maltodextrin Maltol Maltyl Isobutyrate Mandarin Oil Maple Syrup and Concentrate Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One Menthol Menthone Menthyl Acetate dl-Methionine Methoprene 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol para-Methoxybenzaldehyde 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone Methoxypyrazine Methyl 2-Furoate Methyl 2-Octynoate Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone Methyl Anisate Methyl Anthranilate Methyl Benzoate Methyl Cinnamate Methyl Dihydrojasmonate Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated Methyl Isovalerate Methyl Linoleate (48%) Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture Methyl Naphthyl Ketone Methyl Nicotinate Methyl Phenylacetate Methyl Salicylate Methyl Sulfide 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole What you think we're done!!!!? 2-Methylbutyraldehyde 3-Methylbutyraldehyde 2-Methylbutyric Acid alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde Methylcyclopentenolone 2-Methylheptanoic Acid 2-Methylhexanoic Acid 3-Methylpentanoic Acid 4-Methylpentanoic Acid 2-Methylpyrazine 5-Methylquinoxaline 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers) 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate 2-Methylvaleric Acid Mimosa Absolute and Extract Molasses Extract and Tincture Mountain Maple Solid Extract Mullein Flowers Myristaldehyde Myristic Acid Myrrh Oil beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether Nerol Neroli Bigarde Oil Nerolidol Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol gamma-Nonalactone Nonanal Nonanoic Acid Nonanone trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol 2-Nonenal Nonyl Acetate Nutmeg Powder and Oil Oak Chips Extract and Oil Oak Moss Absolute 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%) delta-Octalactone gamma-Octalactone Octanal Octanoic Acid 1-Octanol 2-Octanone 3-Octen-2-One 1-Octen-3-Ol 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate 2-Octenal Octyl Isobutyrate Oleic Acid Olibanum Oil Opoponax Oil And Gum Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute Orange Oil and Extract Origanum Oil Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract Palmarosa Oil Palmitic Acid Parsley Seed Oil Patchouli Oil omega-Pentadecalactone 2,3-Pentanedione 2-Pentanone 4-Pentenoic Acid 2-Pentylpyridine Pepper Oil, Black And White Peppermint Oil Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil alpha-Phellandrene 2-Phenenthyl Acetate Phenenthyl Alcohol Phenethyl Butyrate Phenethyl Cinnamate Phenethyl Isobutyrate Phenethyl Isovalerate Phenethyl Phenylacetate Phenethyl Salicylate 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One Phenylacetaldehyde Phenylacetic Acid 1-Phenylalanine 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde 3-Phenylpropionic Acid 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran Phosphoric Acid Pimenta Leaf Oil Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch Pineapple Juice Concentrate alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene D-Piperitone Piperonal Pipsissewa Leaf Extract Plum Juice Potassium Sorbate 1-Proline Propenylguaethol Propionic Acid Propyl Acetate Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate Propylene Glycol 3-Propylidenephthalide Prune Juice and Concentrate Pyridine Pyroligneous Acid And Extract Pyrrole Pyruvic Acid Raisin Juice Concentrate Rhodinol Rose Absolute and Oil Rosemary Oil Rum Rum Ether Rye Extract Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin Salicylaldehyde Sandalwood Oil, Yellow Sclareolide Skatole Smoke Flavor Snakeroot Oil Sodium Acetate Sodium Benzoate Sodium Bicarbonate Sodium Carbonate Sodium Chloride Sodium Citrate Sodium Hydroxide Solanone Spearmint Oil Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil Sucrose Octaacetate Sugar Alcohols Sugars Tagetes Oil Tannic Acid Tartaric Acid Tea Leaf and Absolute alpha-Terpineol Terpinolene Terpinyl Acetate 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine Thiamine Hydrochloride Thiazole 1-Threonine Thyme Oil, White and Red Thymol Tobacco Extracts Tochopherols (mixed) Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract Tolualdehydes para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde para-Tolyl Acetate para-Tolyl Isobutyrate para-Tolyl Phenylacetate Triacetin 2-Tridecanone 2-Tridecenal Triethyl Citrate 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine 1-Tyrosine delta-Undercalactone gamma-Undecalactone Undecanal 2-Undecanone, 1 0-Undecenal Urea Valencene Valeraldehyde Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder Valeric Acid gamma-Valerolactone Valine Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin Vanillin Veratraldehyde Vetiver Oil Vinegar Violet Leaf Absolute Walnut Hull Extract Water Wheat Extract And Flour Wild Cherry Bark Extract Wine and Wine Sherry Xanthan Gum 3,4-Xylenol Yeast Oh and yes the FDA is allowing your favorite cigarette to still be sold at your local gas station

That's common with most of the juice, people expect it to taste exactly like a peach, but it doesn't. It's kinda of like getting strawberry milk, it doesn't taste like strawberry at all. Another issue is the flavoring that we are used to in the states is quite different over in China. For example a peach flavored yogurt tastes one way here and COMPLETELY different over in China. Most people who travel can attest to this. So they use flavors that are popular over in China. It's just like when I go to Mexico, the Coke down there (Cola people) tastes a lot different than here in the states, I love it. I haven't tried the new batch but Johnson Creek has some great tasting Peach flavor. (I think I remember reading in a thread that you already had JC juice though)