Christopher

This is probably one of the best and most interesting posts I've read so far on the forums. I have to say I agree with not only your concerns but your point of view as well. The bottom line is, nicotine is a vice pure and simple much like alcohol and caffeine. The good lord never intend that we ingest these toxins however in one way or another we have been introcuded to nicotine and over the years have become sadly Dependant. Essentially the electronic cigarette is a pacifier (or a dummy if your in the UK) for adults, it is what we use to help overcome the every day stress called life. I find it to also be a great past time. It's extremely relaxing. That all aside I can't agree more that safety is our number once concern. It is for many suppliers, at least the good ones anyway. Why do you think Vapor Talk was one of the first liquid suppliers in the United States to add child proof caps? Because there is a very real threat of a child getting a hold of something that looks like apple juice and smells like a grape. Unfortunately there are some real "winner" parents out there and we as suppliers have to protect their children. You said you where concerned that a child may some day get a hold of juice and drink a bottle, guess what, it's already happened. (Yes you heard correct) I won't say where and what supplier was involved because it's not needed but it's happened. As far as we know, the child is fine. Luckily. Truth be told liquid bottles in loose form will cease to exist should electronic cigarettes stay on the market for the long run. Everyone will end up using cartomizers. 2 piece units. Why? Because it's a way to not only control the nicotine levels, but it's sealed thus preventing the cotton from falling out, which of course could be eaten by a dog, cat or child. Quality control is another major issue that is being worked on continuously. Is PG safe to vape? Let's be honest with ourselves we are on the front line of this new invention, although PG is general recognized as safe by the FDA and is used in many products such as baby wipes, vitamins etc it's never been tested in long term vapor form inhaled by humans. Granted there was a study done on monkeys for over a year, which concluded positive effects, but we really don't know the VERY long term effects. Essentially only time will tell. The general common sense assumption is, traditional tobacco is so bad that you could probably smoke tea leaves and still be better off than smoking tobacco leaves. I think overall this product is a real step forward in helping dependent cigarette users leave traditional tobacco. Leaving nicotine however is not the ecigs best trait. The original designer of the electronic cigarette (who was inspired after his father died of lung cancer) wanted people to quite smoking with the ecig, however the units worked SO well that people instead, just replaced the delivery form. He never intended persons to use PG over a long period of time. Right now it's up to the user to have the self control to step down. Lucky this is happening more and more often, in fact ex smokers now known as vapers are starting to become more health conscious than they ever where before. We are still in the early phases and so long as we can get the support of government agencys and watch groups we can perfect the electronic cigarette into a true NRT. Something it isn't now. Many people on the board state "I don't want to stop vaping" to me that's the nicotine talking. I think if we could make it as easy to quite as it already is to switch delivery, we could really see some massive health improvements in society. Something I one day hope we altogether can witness. Anyway I'm getting off course here, awesome post and some very valid points.

Same thing here as well but add in the morning to that list

That's about the best your ever going to get

Vapor is the same, taste is a little less because the nicotine will take over a bit, throat hit is stronger but not by a whole lot. The effect you feel going from lower to higher is a bit like when you havn't smoked for a while, then smoke a cigarette really fast. You know that light headed feeling? It's a bit like that, but much less.

I think they are low atty. You can tell by looking at them inside. If the mesh comes almost half way up the atomizer it's a high bridge.

Vape 16mg for a while, at least a week or more. Then go back to the 24mg. Trust me you will notice the difference

In that case you need to report yourself as a supplier per the forums rules. Please post in the supplier area for input on what products the members want in your store. Please take a moment to read the forum rules located at the top of every page. It's also in your PM box and in the noobie area. Thank You!

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Good reviews! I tend to make our flavors quite a bit stronger because I'm pretty sure I have weak taste buds. I also want to make sure the flavors stick on the higher volt units. But that's something I can't go into. Secrets For those reading this review, Peanut Butter and Cocoa will never make it into the Vapor Talk store. It just didn't come out quite right. I did change the levels in the Peanut Butter but couldn't get the creamy taste. At least not yet. Something I may work on again sometime in the future. So congrats, other than me your one of the few to every try that flavor. Forever now in the Vapor Talk Vault. The Pina Colada however will stay, that is actually the almost final flavor. It will be in the store and the new batch will be in next week You can tell it's complete because its much stronger than the other flavors, the way I like it

Absolutely. I haven't used any other model since I got my VP units. I did puck up the 510 one day just to give it some love. But it wasn't the same. Once you go custom you never go back I guess

I'm not kidding, if Cheryl Cole called me and said "Let's get hitched and live in some super for away place" I'd leave Vapor Talk and my wife right now Hold on the phone's ringing brb...

There is really no reason to use 2 batteries actually. If you have the know how, only one battery is needed rather than 2. The modification that exploded above is just 2 simple of a design. For example I've always told many members to wait for the VP3 to come out to support their 5 volt needs. Not because I make some type of profit from Jeso (ha, wouldn't that be sweet) but because he uses a single battery, protected unit. Same thing with his passthrough, there is a fuse built into the unit so that in the event your atomizer shorts out (which people said would never happen) your computer doesn't fry out. (Which happened to a few people on ECF)

There is one way that you can get a little more throat hit from your juice and that's to use a higher voltage mod like the prodigy, the prodigy passthrough, the VP passthrough or the VP3 coming out in a couple of weeks.

Woah! I'm ok! That post was taken from ECF look at the first part of what I wrote The reason this thing exploded is because those mods are using 2 batteries to create 6 volts. One battery WILL discharge faster than the other. When I said don't be a wussy on the video it's because the chances are MUCH slimmer on a single battery working the way it was intended I was referring to the VP1 unit not some of these dual battery custom units. The problem is there are people creating mods left and right who have no idea wtf they are doing. Stuff like this is going to happen.

Another reason I always recommend the VP units over other custom crap units, \ take a look at this post from ECF: ******* Ok I have read one other post where a non-protected li-ion battery exploded. Luckily the user was in no way hurt. Today I got to see for myself what kind of force is created by these tiny cells when they explode. First the basics: The batteries were almost new. Only recharged maybe 4 times They were 2 CR2 3v in a magnum mod that was set to run at 5volts The batteries were charged the night before on a charger with built in protection. The mod was used maybe for 4 or 5 drags during the morning before the explosion. So basically this was definitely not a case of over-charging. It was a case of the batteries allowing a serious over-discharge. I DO NOT vape on 5v all day. This is an occasional (maybe once an hour) hit just for a boost. This was also on a relatively new mod. Only a few weeks old. Nothing showed any kind of wear or any other sign of trouble to come. I have learned that the 801 atty's last a lot longer on high volts if you keep your drags to a 3 second draw. So, this is what I have been doing. No power draws lasting 5 or more seconds here. Leaving my atty connected all night must have sucked some of the juice from my batteries while not is use. I do not usually have to charge these batteries more than every couple of days due to my light usage. So I go to take my next drag and 2 seconds in BOOM!!!! Holy cow! Ok, I am definitely awake now. If I did not know better I would have sworn someone just fired a shotgun in my living room. It was that loud. On top of that there are pieces of debris everywhere. And lets not forget the smell. Time to assess the damage. Ok, as unbelievable as it may seen, the atty is perfectly fine and still produces great vapor and flavor. The batteries did not come out so well. One battery appears perfectly fine (threw it away anyway) the other battery is in several pieces from one end to the other of my living room. So now I collect all pieces and make sure there is no fire anywhere. So far so good. The magnum mod didn't fare well either. The end cap bent in the middle and blew off. The body has a bit of a bulge. Suprising in this is that the top where the atty connects looks just like new. Now for myself. Well I didn't come out clean either. I have black soot from the massive flash all over my face and the hand that I was holding the mod with. So I clean my face to find that I have the fattest purple lip I have ever had. Well now I can just say I ran into Tyson in the alley. I have also singed my hair, eyebrows, and eyelashes. No wonder it stinks so bad. While showering and washing my hair for the 3rd time I realize that my tongue hurts. Sure enough I look in the mirror and I have a "V" shaped cut in the middle of my tongue. I have no clue how that happened. It is not possible for me to have bitten my tongue in that spot. I think the force of the explosion pushed the end of the atty into my tongue and the shock just kept me from realizing it at the time. All said and done, I was very lucky. Nothing that won't wash or heal itself in a few days. What have I learned????? No more unprotected batteries. I will be using protected 3.7 volt batteries until they start making protected CR2's. I can wait to use 5v until then. I still have my backup 5v mod to use at that time. For now it's 3.7v for me. Since I own several other mods that currently use 10440 batteries that are also unprotected, I will put them away for a few days until my new protected 3.7 10440's batteries come in. Many of the veteran members have warned of the hazards of unprotected batteries. I wrongly assumed that the issues would be from charging. So, I never leave charging batteries unattended., Never charge longer than needed. And, I only use protected charges that have 2 separate charge adapters so that one battery never gets over charged while a weaker one is filling up. This is obviously not enough! For those of you who have not experienced one of these tiny batteries blowing up, take my word for it. The explosion will be far larger than you think!!! Protected 10440 batteries can be bought here 10440 PROTECTED BATTERY Do yourselves a favor, spend the extra few dollars and replace any unprotected batteries with protected ones. If your mods don't have protection in them put them away until you can get protected batteries that fit them. I was home alone today. That was a good thing. I usually have an infant here that I babysit. Imagine if that had happened while I was holding her???????? And do not blame other when/if this happens to you. There are warnings all over the modders section of the dangers of using unprotected batteries. I saw the warnings and though the danger was minimal. I only found one post where a battery had exploded. This is why I am posting this. This is NOT an isolated event. I am sure there are others that simply don't want to look like idiots for not listening to those who know. I for one don't care if I look like an idiot if it saves someone else from what cold be a very serious injury. Please take my advice and go get those protected batteries!!! For those who asked for pictures: The first pic shows the inside of the pvc spacer tube with the faulty battery fused inside. The second pic shows the end cap, the good battery, the other side of the spacer tube and a piece that I am pretty sure used to be part of the battery. The third pic shows all of that plus the totally charred inside of the mod itself (not that yo can actually see anything in there. There were also about a dozen tiny pieces of parts that I cannot find in the trash at the moment.

Awesome Icedog! Loved your 510 review by the way, I was crackin up brother!

lol no just keeping it short and sweet. So many posts on the forum to keep up with

RY1 more tobacco RY4 more sweet.

Well I suppose it's a good thing you have to wait because now you have more options

HANDS down without at doubt it would be Cheryl Cole. Good Lord.... And when she speaks and I hear that Irish Accent.....Oh man Ok moving on

If the supplier was good they would list what each flavor tasted like. Most suppliers do, I think Arno's store just isn't setup for that. Although I'm sure he could add it in

Ok so yet another Vaprlife creation...That I felt I'd post Jeso has created The Spade. Think of it as a VP1 for the 510 fans. It's also back and the only VP1 unit that will ever be black

It's funny! But we don't allow animated avatars on the forum Sorry guys