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Absolutely correct mike.. I am highly trained and smart but as you all said accidents do happen and this was a HUGE accident. .. the way we operate now there is no chance of this happening again.. i hope you all do not think I am a stupid person as i am not proan to this type of accident but it happened, I learned from it and hopefully others do as well!

i can still vape and they said nothing about it... I think the blood pressure is unrelated and is more of an anxiety issue

is it a "toffee" based RY4 or? thanks!

for sure.. if your not making bulk amounts by all means get the lower nic, no reason to get it pure or high concentration unless your planning on using it to make a TON of juice.. I do the same Dave I put on nitriles , face mask, and surgical gown.. I also where a thick chefs coat under it all to absorb any mess's I may encounter so it does not touch me skin

Hey Danpio1217 I just realized you started vaping around April of this year? I thought you were old school vapor so let me explain something about strong e-liquid .. almost and I say almost cause not all do but almost all E-Liquid places that mix there own order high % nicotine 500-1000MG/ML because 100mg/ml cost the same and the same amount of shipping because you pay based on weight and 1 Kilo is 1 liter of e-liquid so lets say I bought a bottle of 36mg/ml VG/PG that would be the same price and weight as a bottle of 200 or 500 or 800 Or 1000MG/ML! I am a manufacturer of E-liquid and sell bulk by the liter, I have been shut down due to 4 surgeries unrelated to this incident so when you say I should NOT have high strength at all.. well how else would I get it here!?!?! I cant spend a 1000$ on 4 liters when I can get 10 100mg/ml worth for the 5th the cost shipped! A LOT of vendors in the USA and around the world start off with pure nic and I know of at least a dozen vendor friends that used to buy 2-liter washed out pop bottles of 100mg/ml and they and I we use that to work with because it is simple math 6mg/ml in 10ml equals .6ml of 100mg/ml, if someone wants 36mg/ml its 3.6ml of 100mg/ml... and the only way to get hurt from that strength is to spill it on yourself and just sit there for minutes on end waiting for it to soak in, but we wear gloves and all that as well and if it does get on the skin we just wash it off.. WITHOUT SOAP because soap will help it into your skin and into your bloodstream never use soap to wash off any chemicals it will help it absorb.... But yea high high strength nicotine is not something new and not something only I do majority does it! Actually i know a few companies that are on THIS forum that use pure nicotine and store it with liquid nitrogen its nothing new and we are very cautious and safe,,, its not like we just party and chill around a bunch of nicotine ,,, no lol We have Zero guests over due to Religion .. my wife is from Bangkok,Thailand and part of her culture is you do not have people over to your house but you meet those people out around town to eat, go to mall, movies etc.. so the home more than less is where your hearth is (not sure if that's correct word but...) its where you have privacy.. so no friends come over and no one knows *exactly* where we live when it comes to local people because we do not have guests over and I know for sure with being around e-liquid in high strengths for 3 years my wife is hardly going to untape a bottle that's taped from top all the down to drink or touch nicotine why would she do that lol? see what i am saying now? and when I say tape it up I did not mean tape it up and put it on the coffee table, but if you must have something like that secure is best as possible and hardcore tape and a locked safe or locked closet is all I need because neither one of us is going to go through the motions to open that without proper care and without us doing it who could? No one we are very private people and no accident can happen again unless it was deliberate... the 10mg/ml stuff I store that next to the computer WHILE USING IT then I put it back in the back corner of my closet where its cold and dry... I just kinda thought it strange that you had not heard about high strength nicotine being used but I am not really the exception I am more the norm although my accident was an exception.. But the likely hood of an accident of that type is almost impossible to happen since it would take 10 minutes to peel that tape off... and I highly doubt all the suppliers that make juice keep it in a safe , they probably label it with HAZMAT information and lock it in a cupboard or something along those lines.. if your properly trained which i am to handle chemical of a volatile substances, i took a HAZMAT class and such... minus the drinking nic accident what i am doing is fairly normal thought I would throw this out there thanks no offense to you we is all learnin lol

Dude the difference between them is the ones they sent you cost a 1$ (roughly) more than the ones you ordered and they have LED lights in them thats the difference.....

I was fine when i came to, I have no other adverse affects from it not sure if it made me need blood pressure meds or not but I do take those since the accident.. but I think it might be unrelated thank for asking! And yes a Major accident lol

lol Danpio your right though lol.. and MIKE I buy it because I mix a lot of juice, but the reason is if you ask for nicotine at ANY strength with PG or VG it cost much more than just buying the nicotine.. if you get pure or 500 or even 36mg/ml it will cost the same as the 500mg/ml ... no matter how much MG/ML it is priced the same so i buy it pure and mix it immediatly upon delivery... I work with 100mg/ml and you can do so without gloves as you can wipe it before it soaks in.. ALTHOUGH i rec ALWAYS use Nitrile gloves while making it as it is safer and more clean.. I will never ever store the nic at that high anymore but I do and will get the pure nic and mix it on arrival down and then store it in a cool dry dark place locked up WITH duct tape lmfao.. If you have any more questions feel free to write me PM or ask here thanks !

Tape it up , lock it up and no one knows where so nothing like that can ever happen again...

oh yea I know that after this incident it is locked up in a dry, cold closet that locks.. But what I meant was I duct tape it on top of securing it safely, yes it was stupid the first time I did it but learned my lesson on that and quit doing it immediately lol

also our home is also our e-liquid business so am i not suppose to have nicotine in the house? It is just the wife and I and she knows how to properly handle them... And I ordered it at 500mg/ml and then stored it to cut down further i never ever work with 500mg/ml I cut that down even further to 1-200mg/ml

I said that after that I do not keep it higher than 200mg/ml as I buy it pure then cut it down immediately to a safer amount to work with... I no longer store it anywhere where anyone could get ahold of it but this was 2 years ago

yea I know lol.. I do NOT store pure nicotine I cut it down to 200MG/ML now and keep it in the closet away from the sun.. to dangerous at higher amounts

Well I do not say it would be Blu it would be Lorillard since they are one in the same now,, Also that is what they did with the money i spent on the two pack a day Newport habit I had for 15 years (then 4 years on Camel Menthol) :dizzy:

I do not see anything changing with vaping you got a batt, you got a atty, and juice vape the f'ing thing lol and get on with your life .... It is from George Carlin when he talks about sliced bread but I switched her up a bit lol

Look at the contents in a liberty-Flights bottle glad I am not inhaling that! Half the stuff you cannot even pronounce, well I can pronounce it but thats about it lol

nicotine is actually dropped in price in the last 6 months but will probably either go up or be controlled stiffly but I am not worried

HAHA! I have always loved this clip so great!

Hey thanks Kitsune! Well I duct tape it from top to 3/4 down the bottle so it takes some elbow to get into it plus I hide it now lol thanks!

Those chargers turn off when it is fully charged its part of the protection unit.. same with cell phones they charge then stop charging to prevent explosion if the charger or battery had ZERO safety features then EVERY battery we have for anything would get overcharged and cause fires left and right seeing how NO ONE sits and stares at there batteries while charging.. On a second note I would say this one is BS that the lady had her ****e knocked over form the explosion but her hands are fine? RIGHT! as far as the bags they are used for ANY charger not just ecigs, its more of a fire safety bag than blast bag, it is not to stop explosions as much as fires from faulty batteries of ANY kind

HEy everyone out there in vapor world... I had a bad accident happen to me a couple years ago right around the time I shut my business down (for the mean time) temporarily... Anyways the following I am going to tell you is a very true story and I kept it mostly a secret because for some reason I thought it getting out could "hurt" the e-cig community and hurt what was going on with F.D.A .. I mean as far as I thought I did not want to be the "example" they used to stop sales or trade of liquid nicotine products.. BUT now i think it may help you all to know what can happen and how quickly someone will perish if they consume nicotine in the following way.... here is my story: A couple years ago I was sleeping.. Was not drunk, High, or ANYTHING except for ...sleeping.. I was on a medication for hormones that made my mouth so dry I could not swallow. Anyways to let you know back then I would buy my nicotine at 500Mg/Ml VG.. I would then put it in the fridge to keep it out of light and heat which destroy nicotine, as I think since they store it nitrogen cooled before they ship it to keep it fresh it only makes since to put it in the fridge seeing how cold slows down progress.. Well I got up in the middl of the night and must have been sleep walking AND thirsty and it was about 9 am in the morning.. I was completely asleep when next thing I knew I took a swallow of 500Mg/Ml nicotine solution,, As SOON AS that nicotine touched my tongue I woke up! I instantly rinsed my mouth out and ran REAL QUICK outside and was yelling for help as there was a neighbor I had never met before across the street I was yeling at to call 911.. they were using a table saw , turned it off, I said call 911 and they shook there head and turned there saw back on! *******! then i went to the neighbors house and banged loudly on the door and when she anwered I told her her this "I swallowed 500mg/ml nicotine and you need to call 911 and tell them I swallowed 500mg/ml nicotine solution 500mg/ml and I am going to pass... then face planted into the lawn into a normal grass lawn but at the time it looked like the field in the wizard of oz that is all colorful... MIND you that it was LESS than 1 MINUTE from when that nicotine touched my tongue and the time I was unconcious.. It was not even enough time to call 911 myself... seriously I was out cold in less than a minute... THEN WHAT? Well I woke up a week YES 7 DAYS later and they told me I had A-Phibrilation (sp) also called "A-Phib" which is when your blood pressure decreases SO low that it pools in the heart... They told me it took 7 days to get the nicotine out of my blood and the whole time I was unconcious.. I have a heart arythmia from it and am not on blood pressure medicine (Beta Blockers) ... So the moral of this story is DUCK TAPE YOUR MAIN NICOTINE BOTTLES SO THAT NO ONE CAN ACCIDENTLY GET INTO THEM!!! Drinking nicotine will kill you! I am not even joking.... I damn near died because I had it in a unlocked container! I am all better now and put duct tape around the liter bottles now so that if I did sleep walk again to get a drink i won't "Accidently" drink the half pure nicotine... Now I buy PURE (well 99.8%) nicotine and I would have ben dead if I would have consumed that! ONE DROP OF PURE NICOTINE ON THE SCALP WILL KILL YOU! THE AMOUNT IN ONE CIGARETTE IF EXTRACTED OR EATEN WILL KILL YOU! No joking here nicotine will make you die one of those seizure atrophied muscle type deaths and watching someone die from that would be heartbreaking so do yourself a favor and take this story as a lesson on how serious this stuff is when it high MG like that... even 100mg/ml could kill you so PLEASE BE SAFE!! I know this sounds like I am an idiot but things happen on accident and this just happened to be that .. so please no negative comments would be appreciated Thank you for reading!

Some batteries just have a cut off time and but NOT a heat cut-off so basically you could press the button then let it off for a second and press it again it will go to the cut-off again I have did that before been on the button and rocking in my sleep or something and woke up to the smell of a burning atty That has happened to me before a few times before I got into the major upgraded devices.. But even an ego or mini will do it so be careful in the bed,,, I had a OG Buzz get pressed and had no cutoff and damn near started a fire! I am serious a very VERY hot where it burned me style...

Yea Hello Jewels are made by Hello Smoke .. They make the Hello 016 (I think it is called) .. Also if you ever have a chance to speak to them they have the LARGEST e-cig catalog I have ever seen took me over an hour to look at every item and read it!

yes that is.. how much and when where who why what how when;)>?

here I am so sorry I pm'ed you and it must not have delivered ;( I fee bad and forgot to come back to this thread ... THanks a whole bunch for the battery it helped me tremendously as I was really about to snap.. Thanks to Blu I am still smoke free you are a great person and I will wit you back with some juices when I get them going in the next couple of weeks thanks buddy