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Try using Baking soda & vinegar for all of the above. Much safer!

The main chief Director, Antoine Fauhault(sp), told everyone to stop being so Dogmatic about eCigs. He confessed that eCigs are safer alternatives & should not be discouraged. http://virchowvillerme.eu/en/christmas-2013-towards-a-peace-pipe/ Too bad the regular directors missed the memo on their desks. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ When the battle is raging on electronic cigarettes in Europe, a compromise was issued last Wednesday 18th of December from the trilogue between the European Commission, the European Council and the European Parliament. Never the dispute within the scientific community has been more furious on the topic. The position from the trilogue is startling however. At first glance, the Tobacco Products Directive (TPD) was dedicated to tobacco products. But surprisingly, Article 18 which deals about electronic cigarettes, a real border line tobacco product if any, is the longest article in the TPD! It seems for European instances that electronic cigarettes are considered as the most dangerous issue when regulating tobacco products. May I remind that (to my knowledge) there is not even one case of death due to electronic cigarette use ever reported in the medical or scientific litterature? When the World Health Organization estimates that 100 million deaths occurred during the XXth century, and one billion is expected to occur during the current one, if nothing more is done to prevent them. But a lot has been already done to limit the usage of cigarettes: increase in taxation, ban in public and occupational areas, ban on sales in minors, warning labelling in packaging (even plain packaging in some countries): despite all these efforts, all countries are now facing a plateau in the decrease in prevalence of smoking. We must aknowledge that a dramatic decrease in smoking has been recorded initially. When thinking about the years 1950s, i.e. before Sir Bradford Hill published the causal association found between lung cancer and smoking, more than 90% of British males did smoke. Today, in most countries the prevalence of smoking seems to lay down, for several years, between 20 and 30%. Everywhere? With a striking exception: in Sweden, which is the only country having succeeded to achieve the WHO objective to be below 20% for more than a decade. Sweden had demanded to be able to manufacture and sell snus (which is an oral form of tobacco consumption) in its treaty of adhesion to the EU. Oral tobacco does not kill (when proved of good quality as snus are in Sweden), or at least reduces dramatically its harm, a fact which is visible when comparing national statistics: Sweden has the lowest mortality rates for lung and oral cancers in OECD. If facts are stubborn, thats nothing in comparison with EU instances and public health experts! Snus do remain banned in European Union (except in Sweden), exactly as illicit drugs are. EU authorities prefer to approve free marketting of cigarettes, which are known to kill one out of two regular users, when banning on snus which are known to reduce smoking habits. EU is backed by many experts in tobacco who maintain that these smokeless products are a gateway for smoking. They point out the (indeed cynical) role of tobacco industries which are planing to lure consumers with these nicotine substitutes just for creating an addiction leading to regular cigarettes thereafter. During this time the real killer drugs, i.e. cigarettes, are still on the market. Facts are totally against any form of gateway regarding the use of snus in Sweden, since as I wrote earlier, Sweden is the country which has the lowest prevalence of smoking in Europe, but who really care about facts? There are many financial issues behing this battle, and it is difficult to know to what extent they play a role, and which one, among states, politicians and experts. In France only, cigarettes reward the state by 17 billion euros, just in taxes. It represents a real addiction to taxes, which may be not easy to withdraw. Although it has been stated that smoking cost 47 billion euro to the French society (social security, insurance system, employers), these costs seem hidden to the state, and more than that time span is not the same, since benefits from stopping smoking may not be visible immediately for delayed diseases such as lung cancers or chronic bronchitis. Anyway, tobacco industry has never been as wealthy as today. None of the intervention measures taken to limit cigarette use has succeeded to decrease their benefits. This industry always find new markets and other markets. It becomes hard to know exactly what covers tobacco industry today. For example, Philip Morris has bought Kraft, a major food company which markets the brand Suchard, manufacturer of Toblerone, did you know that? Analysts consider however that electronic cigarettes may constitute a real threat to the tobacco industry. Electronic cigarettes are mostly manufactured and sold by small companies today. The market is highly fragmented today. Initiated in China, it widespreads quickly particularly in the USA and Europe. Tobacco industry is inevitably trying to buy electronic cigarettes retailers and manufacturers. This market represents still a little fraction of the sale of tobacco products, but will reach 500 million euro in Europe and 1.7 billion dollars in the USA this year (2013) according to a recent paper published in the New England Journal of Medicine last Dec. 18 (available for free on line). Their authors, Amy Fairchild et al. from the Columbia Mailman School of Public Health at NYC, present arguments from both sides, those who prone total abstinence, and those who favor harm reduction even without full certainty about risks of ecigs. The authors conclude their perspective paper choosing clearly their camp: We may not be able to rid the public sphere of vaping, but given the magnitude of tobacco-related deaths some 6 million globally every year and 400,000 in the United States, disproportionately among people at the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum an unwillingness to consider e-cigarette use until all risks or uncertainties are eliminated strays dangerously close to dogmatism Activists are claiming their rage shouting at a level that has not been seen since the AIDS era, when they were at origin of most plans against HIV infection, promoting condoms, demanding access to antiviral drugs to low income populations. Today activists for electronic cigarettes need a strong commitment and support from doctors, experts and politicians. We need to give up our former dogmas here, and to accept the idea that abstinence regarding tobacco is not a better strategy for fighting smoking than it was against sexually transmitted infections. I am calling for a real politik in terms of tobacco control, including a harm reduction strategy, aknowledging addiction to nicotine in society, which is not per se the cause of smoking devastation. Smoking related diseases are caused that is for sure by tars and carbon monoxyde which are produced by combustion, i.e. burning tobacco, not due to nicotine. This real politik must take place now in the European public health policy: Article 18 needs to be removed from the TPD. We must distinguish totally smokeless tobacco products, including snus and electronic cigarettes, from all other forms of smoking tobacco. ANTOINE FLAHAULT, professor of public health at School of Medicine, University of Geneva where he is the founding director of the Global Health Institute.

Exactly. None!! People actually smoke more when they're under stress. They know this.

They're following the shorts term money grabs over long term free market consumerism. Tobacco control money is dwindling. http://www.stateoftobaccocontrol.org/at-a-glance/state-governments/funding-for-prevention-slashed.html TSET & the other groups are offering towns extra money if they ban eCigs.

Nicotine is a smart pill. http://www.salon.com/2013/12/29/sciences_obsession_the_search_for_a_smart_pill/

That's an unfortunate & awful experience you went through. I'm glad you're ok. Here are a few tidbits of nicotine poisoning that might be of interest. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8748390/ http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12410/abstract http://blog.rursus.de/2013/12/attempting-to-commit-suicide-with-e-liquids-witless/ http://ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/2013-04-07-09-50-07/142-scandalous-propaganda-from-a-pharmaceutical-company http://mattgluggles.blogspot.com/2013/12/nicotine-equivalence-why-20mg-in-ecigs.html

San Diego wants those Big Pharma, TSET & UN grants really bad. Keep an eye on them!! This is the worse filth to come our way yet. http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/12/27/total-smoking-bans-work-better-than-halfway-measures NICOTINE kills TB. NICOTINE helps to cure Colitis Cancer & Brain Damage. Cognitive Skills, Memory Loss. NICOTINE helps to avoid Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, ADHD, and more. NICOTINE helps people to Focus, Calm, Think, Congregate, PROPYLENE GLYCOL kills Influenza & Pneumonia germs. Vaping is 99% safer than smoking.

Great news video Jeffb, about disgruntlement over the NYC ban. Just about everyone feels this way, everyone but those who get money for demonizing them. It's so heartening to see true patriots standing up to them! You remember when nurses were pro-eCig a few years back? Today they are bought & paid for too. They can take their Chantix & swallow it themselves. I'm so pissed. Those poor nurses have no say if they want to keep supporting their families. I wish they would unite and fight the corruption of our health system. Dakota was caught saying "In a recent footnote on history the state of North Dakota considered banning the sale of tobacco in 2003. The bills sole sponsor, Grand Forks Republican Rep. Mike Grosz lost 88-4. Think of all the revenue lost for the state to spend. The interesting matter was that all the anti-smoker groups did not want a complete ban either: The North Dakota Medical Association, American Heart Association, American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, North Dakota Public Health Association and North Dakota Nurses Association were of one voice in saying that theres no evidence banning tobacco would prevent and reduce tobacco use because no such approach has been implemented, the groups argued. The ban also could take away certain funding for these groups for tobacco control programs. So they didnt want to ban tobacco, because banning tobacco would cause all the anti-tobacco types to lose their jobs? As we now know with the health lobby, it is never really about children and saving souls. Just purely about power and money." I wish I could bold the nurses part, for this conversation. http://vtdigger.org/2013/12/13/advocates-worry-raiding-tobacco-trust-fund/ http://www.trendingcentral.com/plainpacks2/ They shouldn't be trying to ban tobacco either. It's not evil. SHS studies were buried and lied about. Spin doctors twisted up their own fairy tale fear monger data. It's all a lie. First hand smoking is bad if not in moderation, & even then it's bad for a small percentage of people just like anything else in this world. Nicotine is beneficial to the body, not evil. The spin doctors are evil! 80% of smokers lungs are transplantable. This whole thing has me direly upset. Stress kills! It is STRESS that causes cancers, heart problems, .. and they're always stressing the public out over one thing or another. Flip flopping around, good for ya, bad for ya, acceptable, banning acceptables, dehumanizing, demonizing, legalizing hate crimes against targeted people, in this case, smokers. If you don't believe the NWO crapiolie, you ain't been paying attention. Eugenics actually STARTED in AMERICA, in CALIFORNIA!. Hitler learned from the USA. Sometimes I wonder if Glantz is related to him or to any of the murderous founders or proponents. Off my soapbox... Time for an aspirin, but not a Bayer!

This will make ya smile!

Money talks. .

Big Pharma is pushing hard to force everyone onto Chantix, (main goal) & onto their other products (gum, patch, nicotrol, etc) until they can take over the world &ban natural nicotine, patent & promote synthetic nicotine, etc... They've been caught literally lobbying officials with misinformation, (uk), and we all know how the aka fronts lobby here in the states. Combine this with TSET bribing towns to ban eCigs, their fiercest financial foe, & the "non-profit" groups who thrive on smoke sales from TSET, plus the states who rake in ridiculous sales tax plus "incentives" to ban, ... And there's a huge war. BUT, they don't have a leg to stand on. We must fight with truth and facts. They are basing their bans on lies, propaganda, & money. We have truth. Send YOUR senators, congressmen, governors, DA's, the fact filled studies. Drexel, the full lancet study, IVAQS, and so on. Send the same to newspapers, magazines, comment sections, get the truth out there! They will not force feed me Chantix, they will NOT evict me from my home, job, insurance, or pursuit of happiness. They will NOT drive my family into a state of poverty over my having quit smoking!, they will NOT get away with their lies like we let them get away with the second hand smoking lies. We were considerate and gullible then, we didn't know better. NOW WE KNOW & they never saw us coming. Don't despair. They are lobbying town by town, because even the FDA doesn't have legitimate reason to ban them. Big Pharma, tax hogs, grant hogs, are pushing these agendas. They might win a few battles, but there's no way they're going to win the war against our right to be smoke free. Join CASAA.org Join the twitter bomb brigade Join world vaping organization .com Join the daily fights.

You can KICK it. A kick is a removable fuse with an adjustable regulator chip for setting the power where you like. The original KICK goes up to 12 watts, while the new dna20 goes up to I think 20 watts. Most of us vape between 8-12 watts, I prefer 8-10. The original KICK fits most mech mods, (instead of using an 18650, use an 18500 with a kick, etc). Some mods even fit the DNA 20. You'll have to talk with the manufacturer.

I'm an RBA fan, make my own coils, & I've always preferred higher resistance coils with VV for tuning. With that said, on mech mods I prefer lower resistance coils. The coils take too long to heat up, if higher resistance. With that said, I also often use a KICK in the mech mod, to regulate the power and to help avoid any short problems. I have both, because the mech mod has zero wires, zero electronics to wear out. I am prepared with a great vape, even if my fancy Provari should ever need to be sent in for repairs or updates in the years ahead. Everyone should own both, & that's my final answer.

What an awesome speech in favor of eCigs by Lord Viscount Ridley! And here is the Transcript for those with bad audio http://saveecigs.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/transcript-of-viscount-ridleys-debate-on-e-cigs-in-the-house-of-lords-how-it-should-be-done/

City council meeting Wednesday the 18th at HIGH NOON. Wonderful article by Dr. Ross in Forbes, calling out Bloomberg http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/12/17/michael-bloombergs-attack-on-e-cigarettes-will-drive-ex-smokers-back-to-the-real-thing/

This is why I only buy mine at RTD Vapor http://rtdvapor.com (That's not the only safe place, of course, but it's the main one I trust)

You'll be glad you did! It's a keeper.

Aren't they! God bless Farsalinos! One more conspiracy note. (Haha, well I'll try to refrain from now on). Nicotine helps people with certain disorders, (nicotine imbalances no doubt), such as ADHD, Alzheimer's, Parkisons, Schizophrenia, cognitive skills, and so on. Neurological disorders. Studies also show it helps restore brain damage & helps avoid or heal or whatever colitis cancer, and so forth. CDC, big Pharma, FDA, WHO, etc, have been trying to make this a nicotine free world. Say what? Nicotine is even in our vegetables, for our balanced diets! Those same groups, the FDA, etc, are protecting MonSantos. MonSantos has been known to CAUSE all the symptoms that nicotine helps to avoid. Coincidence? I think not. http://globalresearchreport.com/2013/10/08/gmos-neurological-disease-adhd-autism-alzheimers-schizophrenia-bipolar/#sthash.aHf4jo3D.ZuKePwX0.dpbs And the FDA is trying to take away supplementary vitamins, simultaneously. People love their vitamins! http://www.naturalnews.com/032912_FDA_dietary_supplements.html There's a petition to sign against that ban as well.

Yes, it's worth it. Materials Build craftsmanship Menu Safety features galore Error codes for problem solving Customer service Chip that regulates power setting throughout life of battery. (Doesn't Peter out)

Oh yes! This one is absolutely genius! Does anyone have one yet? Fill us in!

FLAVORS by Dr. Farsalinos. Remember that flavor survey not too long ago? Here are the PUBLISHED results! http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/research/145-e-cigarette-flavors "flavors are an important part of e-cigarettes’ success and pleasure perceived by vapers...." The effect on the AORTA ELASTICIY OF THE HEART STUDY http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/research/144-electronic-cigarettes-contrary ECigs, unlike tobacco cigarettes, do NOT stiffen the heart.

Amen!! My family will testify to that!

Those shills are still at it. Need comments, facts, links, support, on a daily basis. Ignorance & greed must be squelched!! Please call the number in the article to support Senator Grothman's measure, especially if you live there, or as a tourist, businessman, visitor if you don't. Did you all see that tourism in L.A. Was up in 2012 for the first time in forever? Yay Vapers! Too bad the ignorant greedy officials refuse to connect the dots...

I loved your entire post, but especially this poetic quote.

My pleasure! Speaking of kids. This article will warm your heart. ECigs are not a big hit with teens. (Only teen smokers who have switched!) http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/5224159-74/cigarettes-cigs-electronic#axzz2nkY4olHX