Celtic

Hi Kport1, The Spade does use a 510 cartridge but it is also the mouth piece. So you have to have a 510 cart as it is the mouth piece for the atomizer that comes with the Spade. Here is a photo of the 510 cart and an 801 cart. The 801 is 2 pieces as the 510 is only one piece. In the 510 cart ... I like to call it the mouth piece ... you add the Fluval right inside the mouth piece, but in an 801 you would have to add the Fluval into the white cart you see in the photo. The black part of the 801 is the mouth piece and the white part is the cart the material goes into. When people direct drip in using the 801 they take off the white cart and do not use it at all. But as you can see the 510 is only one piece. I prefer the Lipton Pyramid Tea Bag mod. I prefer to use the tea bag mod and direct drip with it. When I get that medal taste telling me it needs to be topped of I will add a few drops to the tea bag material and a drop or two onto the animized. You will soon figure out what you like. Welcome Kport1 Celtic

Ah, okay .... gesss I really should have know that... I guess I was just to exhausted. Thankz Ddavelarsen!

How awful that a site with those rating are in existence ... hmmm ... I might do a page on how untrue that is just targeting that site as false .... but is there a way to do a poll with only users that have tried multiple e-cigs to participate in the poll on which e-cig they preferred the most? Okay ... I can't talk ... lol... time for bed... but seriously ... do we have a poll section on the forums? Celtic

I have to agree ... I do not own anything with the color of gold metal at all ... I will not by gold coloring of anything ... jewelry, purses, clothing, etc., but if it works better then the plain Joye atties then that would be the first item I would have in gold ... lol... silver coloring should be an option as steel, pewter, and white gold are more popular then gold now a days.

Thank you John! I also copied and pasted adding my person experience!! I will also add it to my site ... links and all... Thank you again! Celtic

Ya, the 510 had a good throat hit for me using the tea bag method or direct drip method but the 801's just sounded so much better and where great until the batteries started failing on me. I believe it is just where I purchased them from ... you get what you pay for right.... So, I have decided... The Spade I am hoping will do the trick with direct dripping I hope... I am just going to have to get over the whole button thing ... So far I have not craved one cigarette the whole time in using JJ's PT!!! She is letting me use it so I am not a raving B****... lol ... Tax time I will have to get a PT too... JJ says that I should not feel guilty in the purchase because I will not be smoking another tobacco cigarette and I will live longer for my children ... She is right and I will be making the purchase... Thank you so much Brian, BirdDog, Chris, and McQuinn for all your help on the matter.... I do not recommend ECigSupply at all...enter at your own risk! I really do feel that it is the issue of knock-offs... Man, I could have had a PT by now with what I have purchased ... lol ... When we learn in a loss, wisdom is gained in the end.... Celtic

I just talked to my sister that also purchased her 801 kit from ECigSupply about 3 weeks ago and she said that her batteries where also doing the same thing..... ARG!! She had thought it was just her until I told her that my batteries where not holding a charge too.... See I had set up a site for people that knew nothing of the e-cigarette giving them my experience (www.celticsweb.com/vaping/vaping.html)... which has had 46 hit on it already.... so a few people that I know of including my sister, aunt, and me with a few I am sure I do not know have also ordered from ECigSupply .... So far 3 of us are having problems with the batteries .... For about an hour, I have been using my mothers pass through with my 801 atomizers and WOW, so much better!!! Each hit is exactly the way I like it... throat hit and plenty of vapor. So, it is definitely the batteries. Weak a** batteries... BirdDog ... Ya i can see how it might be the chargers but I have 2 chargers from ECigSupply and have used the batteries on both of the chargers and still get a bad charge on them ... How long are the DSE-801 batteries life suppose to be??? If I really enjoy the PT, what portable ecig will I like? Will I like the spade? Is there enough power to always get a good hit? Sorry Christopher for putting this in the wrong section again...

Yes, I agree, I do like the 302 atomizers ... I have only one of those but the only problem is that my ecigsupply 801 cartridges will not fit into the 302 so i am dripping the 302 all the time .... Can you recommend a retailer that sales an actual penstyle that is not a fake.

I used this material for my 801 and the ejuice does not drip well out of it. I loose a lot of juice with Fluval. Even with the tube mod. But it looks like the only option at the moment. Celtic

I guess I should give a little more info.... I need a serious throat hit and like a lot of vapor .... I do realize though some ejuices do and do not produce a lot of vapor. I do not want a manual battery as I like to be able to put the ecig in my side pocket of my purse and I also like to put it in the back pocket of my pants .... no manual battery for me. I am having difficulty with finding the right kind of filer material for my 801 and it seems like I am wasting a lot of ejuice because it is not all dripping out... very irritating. I hear possibly that Janty filers are awesome but I have no idea .... I really need help with the filer material...

Okay, I have ordered from ECigSupply enough to make a recommendation and I can tell you that I am not pleased with them unless the DSE-801 are a crappy brand. I can not afford a lot so I ordered from them because their prices where the lowest and now I am regretting it dearly. I first ordered from them on January 4th and received my 801 starter kit, 3 different color atomizers, and a white battery on January 8th. I found that the battery was not working correctly and 2 of the atomizers did not produce much vapor even after trying for about 30 minutes. I boiled one atomizer and that just ruined it. The battery and the other unboiled atomizer I had to send back paying my own postage. The kit was fine. I had no problems with those parts. I then received the replacement battery and the replacement atomizer which I still feel the replacement atomizer doesn't work like it should and the replacement battery does not register right away. I figured okay things like this happen and maybe it was just my luck. So, I ordered another kit in a pink color thinking the prices might rise and I also ordered a few more atomizers. The next day my aunt asked me to order her a starter 801 kit as well. I was suppose to have priority mail on my order and my aunt had first class being shipped to the same address. Well, I got her kit first and when I opened the package there was only one battery and one atomizer and that was it. So I called ECigSupply and asked him where the kit was. He apologized and told me that he hired someone new and that he would ship the rest of the kit items with some free juice for my trouble. The rest of the kit showed up but there was not one bottle of juice to be found at all. He put my priority mail sticker on the wrong package, my aunts package. Then my package finally came in the mail and guess what ... another atomizer did not work. So I had to ship that one back paying my own postage again. When I received the replacement atomizer the second time there was a battery with it as well that I was not expecting. I believe he made another mistake and mailed me a battery when he did not intend to but I did not let him know because it works a lot better then the replacement battery that he sent me first. I hope that made sense. Also, all the starter kit atomizers where high bridge and the extra atomizers I purchased where low bridge. I think I used the pink atomizer high bridge for about a day and when I took off the mouth piece the cotton was stuck on the bridge pulling off all the fibers covering it. Now that atomizer hardly produces any vapor. It was not dry and there was plenty of juice. I use different atomizers all day long for different flavors. Okay, now here is why I am so upset and why I am explaining every interaction with ECigSupply!!! My first 801 kit ordered on 1/4/10 that came with the 1 atomizer, the 2 batteries, and chager, well the batteries now only work for about 30 minutes and now start blinking green to tell me that they need to be charged. I have charged them 5 times today now and have given up on them. It seems like they are keeping a charge less and less now. I only have the 2 pink and 1 white battery left that work and I am wondering when they will go out on me!!! I am so upset..... :'( Is it a matter of the 801's at ECigSupply being knock-offs or is the DSE-801 just a piece of crap brand. Or is it possible for retailers to purchase refurbished items from manufactures? I do want to say that I did not over flow the juice and damage anything. I don't have much more to spend on finding a penstyle model and I would rather spend more for quality then having to send back parts all the time and have them break down on me within 30 days. And, yes ECigSupply's warrenty sucks big time!!! I thought about trying the 901 but I really do want a good brand I do not want to go back to tobacco cigs.... the spade would be great but that will not happen anytime soon.... Please help ... I really need a good brand for an 801 or 901 style type!! I do not like the 510 model. Thank you for your help!! So waiting impatiently to purchase a better ecig brand and retailer!!!

AWESOME!!! Thank you so much!!

Ah... very good to know ... i have found that the 801 attomizers are not great buy experience and sometimes do not work on arrival ... very irritating ... thank you so much for the info... I was going to order a 302 set thing that it would be better all the way around after using a 302 atomizer ... Thank you again!

Thank you so much ... I found a lot more information about the straw mod .... And I found out that you can also us a QTip made of plastic as the tube or straw mod ... by cutting off the cotton ends and cutting half of the end to make the angle that goes in the bottom of the cart... I hope that makes sense.

okay, here is the video: E-Cig cartridge Fluval re-stuffing 101 I can't find any info on the tube mod here at the forums or maybe I didn't search long enough... can anyone tell me what the tube mod is... what it is made of and where to get it .... if i can get it at WalMart, I can tell you right now ... our walmart will not have it ... most likely ... so if you know where to buy it from an internet site that would be great... thank you so much! Oh, by the way, I love my 801!! but I was thinking in looking into the 302 ... I have received a few bad 801 atomizers and starting to wonder if it is just the manufacture.

Thank you all so much for the info it has helped greatly!

Thanks for the information ... but if I could ask you a few questions that would also be great... Are the low bridge Joye 302/Kissbox able to fit onto the 801 cartridges & batteries? I am not sure what you mean about "seem to squeeze most of the juice from the cart" effect. I do have auto batteries. Thanks

Hi... can I use the pyramid style tea bags in my 801 cartridge? If so, is it done the same way? I have not been able to find much about different methods on making your own filters for the 801... Are the filters that the 801 comes with good to use or is there a better method? I have actually only found one video and now trying to figure what the tube mod is and where to get it ... Thanks for your help....

Hi there, I am looking for a good place to buy fruity flavor e-juice. Cherry, watermelon, strawberry, and most definitely RASPBERRY .... etc. Any suggestions would be great. I will be also purchasing the high level of nicotine (24mg). Thank you!

Okay here is my paper .... I received an A .... It was a Hourglass format for my journalism class "News Reporting and Writing" E-cigarettes Vs. Tobacco Cigarettes By: Antoinette De Alba Margaret McKlem, a Yucca Valley resident, proudly proclaimed, "I have smoked cigarettes for forty-six years and have never been able to quit for even a day until I got my first e-cigarette. I am now smoke free for seven days." Electronic cigarettes (e-cigarette) are battery-powered cigarette look alike electronic devices, that when the user sucks on the mouthpiece it produces a puff of vapor (resembling smoke), which also replicates the hand-to-mouth action of smoking cigarettes. It is widely acknowledged, tobacco cigarettes have forty-three cancer causing compounds and over four thousand chemicals, which include nicotine, tar, carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and DDT (synthetic pesticide). Ingredients commonly found in e-cigarette juice are nicotine (different levels available), dimethylpyrazine, acetylpyrazine, linalool, propylene glycol (creates the vapor), and flavor, none which cause cancer or disease. "These electronic smoking products are being marketed to America right now and they are being promoted as safe alternatives to smoking, safer alternatives, but we don't know that. We don't know whether there's any impurities that could be dangerous, we don't know where they deliver the nicotine and what the effect might be on the body, there is a tremendous amount of unknowns associated with these products," expressed Dr. Janet Woodcock, the director of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) Center for Drug Evaluation and Research. The FDA is concerned the e-cigarette contains harmful toxins and carcinogens, which are found in Nicorette gum approved by the FDA, and propylene glycol, which was studied in 1946 and shown it had no affects on human beings. "Propylene glycol is the inert chemical that passes in and out of the human body without being unchanged, and with no affects. It had no effect on human beings," explained Dr. David Baron, a Board Certified Physician and Chief of Staff at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). The FDA also showed concern for availability of e-cigarettes to young teenagers because they are sold on the internet and in malls, tobacco cigarettes are sold on the internet, gas stations, and in grocery stores teenagers also have access to. In 2008, studies from National Institute on Drug Abuse showed 7 percent of 8th graders, 12 percent of 10th graders, and 20 percent of 12th graders had used tobacco cigarettes at least once in thirty days previously before the survey. "If I caught my teenagers smoking a tobacco cigarette, I would stick an e-cigarette in their hand instead," McKlem explained it would be a healthier option instead of 4000 ingredients in a tobacco cigarette. There is speculation on the internet in e-cigarette communities, that the FDA is secretly concerned about regulating the tax on the e-cigarette, and the tax loss that would occur from people alternating to e-cigarettes. There is no proof of the speculations. There have also not been any reported deaths or harmful effects from the e-cigarette since the release in 2003. William T. Godshall, Executive Director of Smokefree Pennsylvania wrote, “Smokefree Pennsylvania strongly urges the FDA to consider the enormous public health disaster the agency would create by banning electronic cigarettes. Denying 45 million (tobacco) cigarette smokers access to this exponentially less hazardous alternative would result in millions of preventable deaths among smokers and millions of nonsmokers continuing to be exposed to tobacco smoke pollution. It is absurd to even contemplate protecting the deadliest nicotine products (tobacco cigarettes) from market competition by these less hazardous nicotine products.” For more information, please contact: Antoinette De Alba at celtic@celticsweb.com, The Electronic Cigarette Association (ECA) at www. ecassoc.org, The Vapor Talk Forum at www.vaportalk.com/forum, and FDA at www.fda.gov

Yep he did mom .... Thanks again Chris ...

Thank you very much Christopher!

Sure I can share the story with you... I will have it back on Friday ... it was created for a final.... Thanks

Christopher, may I quote you on "You have to remember cigarettes bring in an enormous amount of Tax money in for these countries. Do you really think they want these things on the market? Of course not. If they can ever tax them, you can bet your butt they'll be paying companies to get them on the market." I am suppose to have a last name though because if I do not it can be said that I forged the quote. Also, if by chance, do you know the information: Does the FDA get a portion of this tax for the sell of cigarettes?

Does the store "Vapor Talk" have a list of ingredients that is found in there juice... I saw the list you provided through the link but was not sure if these are the ingredients Vapor Talk uses. Thank you all for your help ... I so appreciate it... My report is due Friday so any helpful links to site would be great!!