Schizophretard

One time my 3 year old niece wanted to sit on my lap while I was on this computer. She watched me for awhile but then got bored, starting playing with my mouse, hitting the keys, and messing things up. I grabbed the mouse and told her to stop. She said,"I want to play with your peter!" I laughed and said,"It is called a puter."

I have never heard of this before but smoke stains your teeth and lungs.

Mike at Indy Vapor Shop is over stocked with juice. That is why he has them on sale. He wants to go down to a lower stock and only keep the best flavors. I bet he will be willing to negotiate on bigger ml or price. You might be able to get him to sale a gallon of something. I have seen his gallons before he puts them in the little bottles. I bet he has a lot he needs to get rid of before they expire. I could be wrong but I have a feeling it is something like that. He is a good guy so, if you can negotiate a way for him to be happy then he will make you happy.

Church of Christopher of Latter Day Vapes.

That gives me anxiety. If it doesn't go in our favor what would that mean? From BEERCITYVAPRZ's post is sounds like e-cigs would be banned at that moment?

What is the FDA doing at the end of the month?

If I had the job I would bring the top down to me.

But all electronic cigarettes become guilty until proven innocent because of guilt by association. If the FDA just says,"electronic cigarettes." it freaks me out because to the FDA those are dirty words.

It was a good read. Thanks.

That made me feel sick.

That would freak me out. I can't believe it got up and ran off. Be careful. Hitting a deer could make you road kill. I think I got you beat. She has a book shelf full of Twilight crap. By full I mean things are stacked and behind things. She even has doubles! She made me beg Burger King for a cardboard pop up almost as big as the book shelf. She got it and now I have to look at it the rest of my life. She will win Twilight crap from Ebay BEFORE she begs me for the money! One time I watched one of the movies with her(forgive me God). I had to get up to get a Pepsi or drain my atty or something. She said,"Wait! The best part is coming up!!!" I waited for a few minutes, they both kissed, and then she asked,"Did you see it?!" I said,"They kissed?" She said,"No! His lips!" She rewound it, paused it at a part where his lips kind of curled up, and said,"That is so hot!" I didn't understand how that was the best part. She is obsessed. It is insanity! The worst part is that we own all the Twilight Barbies!!! Why can't she be obsessed with collecting fossils, Star Trek, classic video games, and e-cigs like normal people?

I don't want to learn that lesson.

I'm getting it real soon. I got to get my normal supplies from Indy Vapor Shop, pay for a sticker to get permission to drive my OWN CAR, and unless I'm forgetting something the Iolite is next. Oh, and I might have to buy the wife Twilight crap as a distraction.

I have a feeling you want that report on schizo-vision.

From what I've heard it doesn't sound like too much of a hassle. It is kind of give and take. Instead of batteries, it uses butane. Instead of atties, carts, and cartos, it uses a vaporization chamber and a heating pin. If it isn't as good as an e-cig then I don't see that as much of a problem because more vaporizers designed with the specifications that we need will be designed if just on e-cig modder creates one. Once there is one designed specifically for e-cigs then the ball will be rolling because the free market works that good. If you build it we will come.

Well, I completely soaked my hand in nic juice. What you are talking about I use a hankie but if you start to "feel it" then wash your hands. When your common sense says there is way too much then listen to it and go wash your hands A.S.A.P.

+1 for the change.

Yes, I overdosed once from too much juice on my hands. I think it was 24mg. It was a horrible feeling. "wipe it up and off your skin whenever possible" isn't good enough advice because that is what I did. If you get a lot of juice on your skin then don't just wipe off but wash off.

To be fair Jeff didn't say which Brian.

My brother got house arrest and probation for distributing illegal products. He was lucky because he could of done 20 years prison. So, I rather vaping stays legal. When things become illegal things get ugly. If it stays legal the market will grow, prices will stay low, the technology will advance quicker, and most importantly MORE PEOPLE MAY SAVE THEIR LIVES BY VAPING. This is a way to keep vaping legal. I remember one of our members talking about making a better American made atomizer. I think it was Dannyboy? Even if there is never a ban or any regulation, I think making units with some kind of vaporization chamber would be an improvement on the atomizer. I first heard of low resistance atomizers from Dave. He said they would be game changing. He was right. Variable voltage was game changing. So much so that Jeso upgraded the Joker too quickly. A vaporization chamber will be game changing. If a company makes a good unit with one then others will follow. If others don't follow and a ban happens then that company will survive and the others will go out of business almost overnight. If one is made most people would still use nic juice but if the FDA hits the fan then people can switch to using tobacco with zero nic juice and less people will switch back to smokes. I hope such a device is made and I believe it will be profitable. Another reason I think it would be good for such a device to be made is because I think most vapers don't realize they could get nic from vaporization before e-cigs were invented. How many times do you hear about someone starting with a vaporizer and then using e-cigs? If everyone knew about vaporizers like the Iolite then I probably wouldn't be too concerned. I'm concerned because if a ban happened tomorrow then I believe most vapers would go back to smoking as soon as their Y2K supplies ran out and vaping will become history. The Iolite may be fine but most people might be uncomfortable using a vaporizer because of them being used by stoners(guilt by association). If an e-cig company made one for the purpose of getting nic then that guilt by association would be less present. Also we all know about the new and improved mods so, one being made would educate vapers about vaporizers as an option.

But how would we keep the market in the USA if they were illegal?

I got both those in today and they are a treat. They also sent me a sample of Harry's Irish Cream. They should of came up with a different name for that one. That just doesn't sound right. I'm scared to even try it.

But what if the companies that made the devices you are using now started to also make devices with vaporization chambers that can be used with e-juice but have the versatility of a vaporizer? Would you consider that an upgrade to atties? If they started making devices like this now do you think it would increase the chances of Vapor Talk still existing after a ban of nic juice and e-cigs?

Uma and Nana, I'll make sure it is the next major device I buy. I'll test it all out. This is the most logical solution I have discovered so far.

I'm all for stocking up but only stocking up seems like giving up. It is a Y2K plan to me. I would prefer that the e-cig market adjusts and survives whatever the FDA does. I'm not just worried about getting my vapor but worried about the suppliers having a product to sale and staying in business. Most of us vapers don't stick with PVs that look like cigarettes. We at least upgrade to the eGo and many upgrade to mods that look like vaporizers anyway so, why not just subtract out the e-cig atties and start making mods that can still use e-juice but also has the versatility of a vaporizer? I'm not exactly saying,"Lets all buy Iolites." I'm saying,"Lets merge the e-cig market with the vaporizer market before a ban." If we lose e-juice with nicotine and our atties then we and the market would be safe because we would just change what we put in the devices we already have. We could just go from nicotine juice to zero nicotine juice mixed with tobacco. What could the FDA do then? What kind of arguments could they form? Are they going to ban vaporizers? Are they going to tell the public,"You can smoke tobacco in a pipe but not vaporize tobacco in vaporizers."? If I wanted to I could go to a store right now and buy a bong that can be legally sold because it is marketed as "for tobacco use only" that obviously isn't and it doesn't seem like that is going to change any time soon. If we join the vaporizer market then we could market them for tobacco use only but we would be actually using them for tobacco use only. Unless they make tobacco illegal our devices would be safer than stoner's devices and their devices seem pretty safe anyway. Buying a vaporizer is my Plan B but if the e-cig market starts making other vaporizers now as it's Plan B then we are all safe.