Schizophretard

Then how were you able to handle a smoke with over 4000 chemicals?

No you shouldn't because if it isn't purple then it isn't a Joker! If you laid all three of those on a table and told the Joker he could have one then which one would he grab? And BLACK! It isn't called the BATMAN! You aren't a true super villain! Poser!

I bought one Joker here at midnight. I thought they would all sell out in minutes. I got someone to close for me and hurried home. When I got home it was about 10 minutes to midnight. I rushed to my computer and waited in the store for about 5 minutes and right at midnight I bought one. I wouldn't be surprised if I was the first to order. After I saw one of Jeso's posts about him selling them I went to his site. I saw that he sold them with an 801 fitting. I would prefer an 801 fitting because I have the VP 801/510 and 801/901 adapters but I didn't know an 801 fitting was an option when I bought the 510 Joker. So, I ended up buying a Joker with an 801 fitting from Jeso also. In other words, I have two Jokers coming because I'm the Schizophretard. A LR atty won't work on the Joker. It's safety mechanism causes the Joker to turn off if you tried to use one. I'm planning on trying a Janty Dura and Janty classic on it. So, you stole the Woodimus back from your wife? Is a 510 cartos significantly different than other cartos besides being a 510? What benefits do you get from one? With 48mg I think I'm using less juice too. Before 48 mg I was like a crackhead with my lips stuck on my e-cig. I only took my mouth off long enough for a smoke.

LR atty on an eGo. Since this is what I quit on I'm kinda attached. I hope I can transition to my Joker. Especially since I accidentally ordered two. What are you vaping on?

I first tried 18, then 24, then 36, and then finally 48. Smoking is like sucking on an exhaust pipe and vaping is like inhaling flavored water vapor. I wasn't addicted to inhaling flavored water vapor. I was addicted to sucking on an exhaust pipe. The other strengths I tried felt more like inhaling flavored water vapor compared to 48 mg. The lower the nicotine level the more flavor I get but the less smoky feeling I get. At 48 mg the nicotine overpowers the flavoring some. The nicotine gives throat hit and adds more of a smoky tobacco flavor to it. I mostly taste the nicotine but the Pina Colada flavor keeps it from tasting exactly like a nicotrol inhaler. Also, adding half vg makes the vapor more thick like smoke. I'm basically tricking my mouth and throat into thinking it is still sucking on an exhaust pipe. It amazes me that the 2 ultra light smokers that you've dealt with couldn't take anything except 6-10mg strength. 18 mg was nothing. I couldn't imagine getting any satisfaction from 6-10mg. They might as well get drinks with the flavor of their e-juices to try to quit smoking. 48 mg feels extremely close to an ultra light. It still has a clean non smoke feel to it but it is close. I got enjoyment from other strengths but not enough to give up cigarettes. I was able to cut my smoking down to about a third of what I was smoking but every day I gave in to the temptation to smoke because vaping felt so much different.

I get mine from Wordup because I like their options and it is easy to navigate. They also sent me a hand written letter which gave them bonus points because that makes it feel more personal.

I did care about all the throat hit and whatnot. I just didn't care for the harshness of stronger cigarettes. They would give me sinus headaches and affected my breathing more. 48 mg Pina Colada at 50/50 gives almost the same throat hit and what not as ultra-lights. I'm not saying that I'm not addicted to nicotine. I'm saying that I'm just as addicted to everything else. I have other 48 mg juices and they don't satisfy as much as my Pina Colada. They don't seem to vape the same. In a way it seems kind of the opposite. Everyone that vapes less than 48 mg must not care about the throat hit and what not because all they are getting is flavored air with nicotine that feels like an ultra-ultra-ultra light. All they are getting is nicotine. I think I would have trouble working my way down from 48 mg to zero mg because my body could probably adjust to less nicotine but with less nicotine comes less throat hit and more of an air feeling. Also, something I noticed, is that the nicotine has a flavor to it that makes it taste more like smoking which is very satisfying.

I don't think it is that amazing that I smoked ultra-lights. I couldn't handle anything stronger. What I find amazing, is how anybody can go from smoking to anything less than 48 mg e-juice. What got me to quit was Wordup's Pina Colada 50/50 mix at 48 mg. To me it feels like a Pina Colada flavored ultra-light or maybe ultra-ultra light. Most vapers seem to have the impression that 48 mg is a bit much or even poison but they once smoked at least ultra-lights which is poison. I don't see how people who went from ultra-light or above are now satisfied with less than 48 mg. Vaping 36 mg and below felt like vaping air. There have been times when I've had a cigarette break near the butt and I tried to smoke it. That's what lower than 48 mg felt like. I would vape nonstop and never get satisfied. Now I'm completely satisfied. I don't vape nonstop now. Most of the time I'm just holding my eGo and I take a few vapes here and there. Yes, we are truly nicotine addicts but if the rest of you mainly are addicted to the hand to mouth then why even use e-juice? It seems like you must be addicted to the throat hit and feeling of thick smoke/vapor going down your throat. Forgetting the nicotine addiction for a moment, the 48 mg and 50/50 mix gives a similar throat hit and thick smoke/vapor going down my throat feeling as an ultra-light. Isn't that part of the action and not the drug?

I was just joking about us being the only ones and that being the reason we see eye-to-eye. The real reason is because we were both genetically engineered by the same aliens. I had the same problem with 36 mg which is more proof that we were both genetically engineered from the same cow embryo. All joking aside, I do believe the reason why some of us need 48 mg is either genetic or something to do with the chemistry of our bodies like maybe metabolism.

I started vaping in November. I couldn't quit smoking until I tried 48 mg which was about a month ago. Anything less than 48 mg makes me crave an analog and with 48 mg I don't crave analogs at all. So, from my point of view 48 mg isn't "so much nic" but the bare minimum. In my mind, if 48 mg was to be banned then e-cigs would have been banned because using them would be pointless. I smoked ultra-light cigarettes ,so I think 48 mg being much is just in people's heads. I'm probably getting the same amount of nicotine or maybe less than I was getting from ultra-lights.

That is because you and I are the only true nicotine fiends on this forum and possibly in the whole world.

But you can vote less than in the other categories. I also use about 50ml of 48mg per month.

I'm getting over the flu but my mental illness got me fired earlier. So, I'm feeling worse than sick now. Thanks for the congrats. Yes, we will come up with ways around any regulation/ban. I just wish those making devices would start to focus on making them as versatile like the Iolite. That way we could adapt to changes quicker to stay off the smokes. If you're interested in the Iolite then you may find the guy from the videos guide interesting.

I ordered two! One on accident.

If she lets me.

Thank you sir! She made me do it. They always get what they want.

It beats smoking and if e-cigs get banned our community can make better ones. There is an electric one I'm looking at but I'll have to mostly use it plugged up because of short battery life.

I'm still sick. I worked earlier but wish I didn't. Thanks for asking though. These are the four videos I watched that made me fall in love with the idea of using a vaporizer: HD Iolite Part 1 - Overview HD Iolite Part 2 - E-liquid HD Iolite Part 3 - Tobacco HD Iolite Part 4 - Molasses

I'm getting it after my wedding(May 18). I have to save money for the honeymoon(The Joker doesn't count! ). I'm getting it ASAP after the wedding though. I'm going to experiment with the Iolite and other vaporizers and share my findings with VT. So far I don't like the stocking up idea. It is okay for a two year supply but I have a life long commitment to being a vaper. I don't like the abstracting nicotine ideas and making my juice because I doubt it could be purified to the level in our juices and the whole point of doing that in the first place is to work in atties that we will eventually run out of anyway. My Plan B is to get an Iolite or another vaporizer, use tobacco with no additives, and mix it with DIY nicotine free e-juice. A vaporizer is the same concept as an e-cig but you put tobacco in it. Since there is no burning and all it is doing is vaporizing the active ingredients from the tobacco it seems pointless to abstract nicotine from tobacco. It is the burning of tobacco that makes most of the carcinogenic byproducts. If you vape tobacco you are still a vaper and not a smoker. I prefer this as a Plan B for me and our community as a whole because if our PV makers started making vaporizers that can use e-juice or tobacco then if a ban happens we will still have a method to vape and won't have to go back to smoking. They are going after e-cigs and e-juice. They will have trouble taking away vaporizers because the stoner community has been using them for years and they market them "for tobacco use only". The beauty of it is we would actually be using them for tobacco use only and they couldn't have any argument against how much nicotine we are getting because it would be from tobacco. Adding our nicotine free flavored e-juice wouldn't be a problem because people do that now with their tobacco with products like Tasty Puffs. I think if our PV makers started making PVs for tobacco and e-juice then they would legally become tobacco products. They wouldn't be nothing more than electric pipes. If they took away our e-juice and e-cigs then we can give them the finger because we would still be vapers. I don't have much against tobacco other than smoking it. I will vape until the day I die and after that if I can. I don't care if the only vaporizer I find that does the trick looks like a bong with a Cheech and Chong sticker on it. I will vape!

I'm getting an Iolite because a ban could be life long and I would run out of atties.

That's why I'll probably vape cheap tobacco in a Iolite. I can get the nicotine without burning the tobacco.

Good point about the gum. I may try that if vaping tobacco is a failure. If I remember right it is kind of expensive though.

You can vaporize tobacco in an Iolite. That way you don't have to extract nicotine or smoke tobacco. You can use an Iolite for e-juice, tobacco, molasses, or pretty much anything you want that can be vaporized. I'm thinking about getting one for shortages or a ban.

I'm going to vote Libertarian because I don't care much about the Republicrats and since I feel like the little guy I feel I'll best be represented by the little guy. Anyway, I'm so mad right now that I can't concentrate and navigate through the links and get to exactly where I need to go. I want the links to every person that voted on it. I don't know what to say. Maybe I'll just say that there are many voters who won't accept a ban and leave it at that. Anyway, someone please help me navigate to where I need to go.

Amen! I will not love Big Brother! I will be a thought criminal and vaper until the day I die! I am not a law abiding citizen! I abide by my rights and the rights of others even if that means breaking the law! Laws are not sacred but our rights are! I am working on my Plan B for if and when the day comes that I can't purchase e-juice or e-cigs! Most vapers' Plan B is to stock up for a ban but that will only work for two years! My Plan B will be for the long term!