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READ & SHARE BEFORE YOU GO SIGNING A PETITION WITHOUT EDUCATING YOURSELF OR OTHERS! ***Message from CASAA.org - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association*** If you are asking about the White House petition to "veto" the FDA regulations, there is a LOT wrong with it and that is why I haven't let it be posted in the group yet. I will submit it to the rest of the CASAA Board of Directors to get an official ruling on whether or not we will endorse it, but it is unlikely. We'd rather our members start preparing to submit comments to the FDA, where it really counts. If it was well-written and factual, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend signing it, but that is not the case. You can sign it for the sake of "doing something," but you will be adding your name to a petition that is filled with misinformation and a fundamental lack of understanding of the regulatory process and the FSPTCA. The media and ANTZ could easily use the fact that so many vapers signed such an inaccurate petition against us. Showing a powerful, mass front is good, but showing it on a petition filled with so many errors may only serve to make us look uninformed and unorganized. So, in a way, is actually could "hurt" to sign the petition. Additionally, I am concerned that too many people wil sign a petition and when it comes time to send in a comment to the FDA, they will mistakenly think "I already signed something about this" and not do it. That would be less people submitting comments directly to the FDA and that could hurt us, as well. After all of that, the FDA will likely never even look at it. We've done White House petitions before (about the FDA and e-cigarettes) and the Administration just kicked it over to the FDA to answer us! The FDA comment period is a part of the actual process and essentially IS our petition. It's the time to get our voices heard by the right people. We have OVER TWO MONTHS to get our comments in and that is plenty of time. The process does not favor those who "get there first," so we have no need to rush into things. Calm, rational and factual comments are needed and that takes a little time to organize. Anyone who has been a member for some time and attended the member meetings over the years will tell you that we expected to have to analyze the rules and we wouldn't issue a statement, nor advise our membership to take certain actions, without first having a clear understanding of not only the language of the rules, but their greater implications. We are just asking for members to please be patient for a few DAYS, while we scrutinize the rules and craft a comprehensive Call to Action to assist members in submitting their comments. I'm sorry if people feel we should be doing things faster or doing other things besides focusing on the FDA comment period, but we are doing the best we can. Julie, Carl and Elaine were working on it as soon as they got it this morning, with a short intermission to listen to the FDA Q&A call. Please remember that we are all volunteers with jobs and families, not paid lobbyists. Even so, rest assured that this is a high priority and is not being ignored.

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Do want to post a stored image on your comp or post a pic from the interwebs?

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You're going to use your kids Birthday money to by ecig stuff?

But...but...but... they are "nefarious"

Not only the cost of submissions but also the time it may take to obtain an approval.

If they will require face to face sales like they do with cigs, then that will be a problem for online businesses.

Welcome

I like Grimms poster of Britney. mmmmmmmmmmm

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Freedom

You aren't confused. They both have replaceable batteries. ....The fish head man is confused

You need to seek advice from a medical professional ASAP. Nobody here can safely answer your question. I am going to lock this thread.

I think the newer Buicks are pretty nice looking.... but then again Im getting old

But Im right

I like my Vivi Nova better than any KPT I own.

Its 8PM here and 82 degrees.

I saw a bacon pizza juice recently. That would be an interesting flavor.