blucavvy

please tell me this is a joke.

for serious.

agreed.

we should get a group email going to them to see if they need any ideas (like the one's we've been throwing out here) to help them defend themselves. i'm sure they know all this but ya never know.

a product that's been out for 2 years and you've only heard of 3 complaints? that doesnt sound bad to me lol. joye eGo's have been out for what? maybe twice as long? and i've heard of ALL kinds of eGo not working or whatever type threads. i'm not trying to start a pissing match, just not sure why the kGo is looked at as being a worse product than the eGo when really, there are no facts to back this. the kGo has been out for awhile now so all this "we'll see how well they're holding up a year from now stuff" doesn't really make any sense. should we really need to get more than a year or two out of a $15 battery? that's all i'm sayin.

I've only heard of one kgo charger going bad. On the flip side I've heard of lots and lots of ego problems. Batts and chargers. Not sure y joye is considered to be some superior product over its clones.

i bring one 800mah LEO. one shorty .75ml 1.7ohm cartomizer. and a 3ml bottle of juice. i could be gone for a day and a half with that setup and no charging ability. you guys must vape. ALOT. lol

if i remember correctly they won't. buy the kGo specific charger, it's like $6. too much bad **** has been happening lately anyway from trying to save a buck or two. it's not worth it.

it's stuff like this that will send the industry to it's own grave long before the FDA does. wtf people, do your research or **** off, don't sue a company cuz you can't read.

yeah but regular cigarettes don't blow up in your face. at least with cigarettes you know exactly what they can, and will do to you. with a pv you expect it to be safe, and if any damage is to be caused to you it will be due to the nicotine or vapor consumption. not the battery blowing some of the teeth out of your mouth.

usatoday

it's a good thing i waved my right to free speech or i'd be all over this. lol

it's funny because it's true.

lol, not just the 808's, the LEO's, dripping, carto's, all of it. too much hassle at this point.

losing my interest in vaping. don't think i'll be doing it much longer. haven't craved a cigarette in a long, long while. think it's time to move on to the next shiny thing....

ha, what an idiotic argument the one guy puts up. i love it when tool's like that say "even the FDA says it needs long term studies" so it must not be safe! when are people going to wake up and look at all the things the FDA says are dangerous for us? if the FDA were really looking out for us why are cigarettes still legal in the first place? the money trail tied to certain government agencies is disgusting..... one day America will wake up and realize that the Govt. is supposed to fear us. not the other way around.

want to go home......pt test in the morning,probly in the rain.

as for the lr vertical coils I've tried boges, v4l WOW's, and litecigusa.net lr 808 cartos. Imo they all performed roughly the same and since the litecig ones are cheapest those are what I'll recommend. They all metered out close to 2.2 or 2.3ohms when measured.

as far as I'm aware the only lr cartos in 808 threading are vertical coil cartos which won't work as well on a gen2 (volt) as they will on a gen1 (v4l). They'll work just fine but vapor production on a gen2 is best with horizontal coil cartos. There may in fact b lr horizontal coils out there I just haven't searched for them. all the 808 batts worth mentioning (v4l,volt,v2,bloog etc.) are kr808d-1. The difference is which generation they are. gen1 (other than the v4l vapor titan) all have smooth gloss paint, start out off the charger at 4.2v and drop in voltage (unregulated). V4l batts use a custom ic so their voltages barely drop compared to allthe other gen1's which drop like a rock after a few puffs. The v4l vapor titan is like the crem de crem, it uses v4l proprietary ic to maintain a steady (even if it is unregulated) voltage that for the majority of its life fires at 4v, it has the rubbery feel of a gen2, and it also has the "sealed" type sidepost hole. The vapor titan is like the awesome middle ground of gen1 and gen2 with a loooong cutoff timer. gen2 are ALL fitted with that rubbery feel instead of paint. The original gen2's had a smaller center post hole than a gen1, the newer version of gen2's are the "sealed" version where the hole was moved to the side of the post to make them more liquid resistant. They are ALL regulated to 3.6v. And they all have a 5-7sec cutoff timer. hope this clears some stuff up.

gen1 batts cannot charge on a gen2 charger but gen2 batts can charge on a gen1 charger. Meaning if you did get the v4l hardware you could always pick up a volt batt down the line and it will charge just fine on the slim line charger. I highly recommend getting either the v4l vapor titan (a lot like a gen2 just better) or the v4l diamond or stealth series batteries(basically a beefed up gen1). Don't get the regular single logo batts. They're just standard 808's. The titans and diamond/stealth series are where its at. I personally like the diamonds.

as I said if you sign up for v4ls mailing list they email out weekly sales that make them at the same or cheaper than most stuff out there. And its only a 10second cutoff for the v4l manuals, the autos have a 20 second cutoff which no other 808 battery can even compare to. I'm not at all saying the volt is junk, its a good quality gen2 808. But when you can get better equipment at the same price (if not cheaper depending on the current sale) y not? That's all I'm trying to get at, the volt, bloog, smoov, v2, its all technically good equipment but v4l is in a league of its own. Its hard to really explain without someone actually trying the 2 side by side for comparison, like I said all I know is I've spent a lot of money on diff 808's (gen1 and gen2) and I now only use v4l stuff. kind of like how people always point out that most vapers start with a stick style, then move up to an eGo type model, then move up to a mod. We always try and help noobs to try and save them some money and that's all I'm trying to do here.

http://elitevaporworks.com/ss/chargers-1.html there they are. their pcc (the same as bloog/volt) is $10 cheaper, their batt's are about $5 cheaper and they have free shipping. if gen2 808's are what your'e looking for this is the place to buy. hands down.

i really wish smokelessimage would stop saying their batt's are sealed. all gen2 batts are "liquid resistant" now, but they are not sealed. they simply moved the hole from the center of the post to the side. if it were truly sealed it would not work, as auto batts need that hole to work. anyway, it doesn't matter if they're sealed or not as the only thing you'll be using on it is carto's and you shouldn't be filling your carto's on your batts anyways so leaking should not be a concern as it is. $20 is pretty much standard price for a "starter kit" for 808's, but they can be found cheaper. as far as the cutoff, i know i'm not the only one who likes to take long slow drags on their ecigs. most mods have long *** cutoffs, y shouldn't stick style cigs? 5 second cutoff is horrible. it's the main thing that keeps me from really enjoying gen2 808's, that and the fact that the draw is much stiffer on gen2's than it is on a gen1 808. i don't particularly care for that stiff draw, and that's what leads me to having to take a longer drag. now after all this i know it seems i'm knocking the Volt pretty bad, and honestly i'm not trying to. it's gen2 808's that i don't care for. Volt is a bit overpriced but not bad. the biggest thing i can give to the gen2's is their pcc, that thing is badass. the gen1's have an ugly really cheap looking pcc. but at least they have one. the reason i like v4l is that they've taken all the good things about gen1's and gen2's and kept them and got rid of all the bad things. if you sign up for v4l's mailing list they run sale's constantly (like every week). i'm trying to remember where you can get gen 2 (volt, bloog, smoov) 808 gear cheap. there's a specific site i just can't remember it. i'll find it and post it later.

v2cigs is an overpriced gen1 808 volts are overpriced gen2 808 let me lay out some differences for you so you can compare gen1 to gen2 and decide which sounds better for you. gen1- unregulated, comes off the charger at 4.2v, dies down at or under 3.7v at the end of its charge depending on manfr. Cutoffs range based on vendor, most are around 8sec. But v4l has a 20sec auto cutoff and 10sec manual cutoff. Only use vertical coil cartos on these. gen2-regulated 3.6v, 5-7sec cutoff max. Most manfr.'s are around 5. Only use horizontal coils on these. I'll post some more info when I get home. my recommendation is and probly always will b v4l.com they make the best 808s in my opinion, and I've tried em all.

I will post when I get out out of class. I can help