sasetrase

Tanning of liquids is perfectly normal. As things steep and age they go rather quickly. When the supplier takes the original nic filled liquid out it has been in an airtight, dark, sealed container for awhile. They hold their life really well in amber glass, but as soon as they hit large amounts of atmosphere, and light, they change quickly. The cheap plastic they are in is also NOT intended for long term freezing or storage of 1+ years. Longer than that and the compounds will most likely leach plastic.

Tanning of liquids is perfectly normal. As things steep and age they go rather quickly. When the supplier takes the original nic filled liquid out it has been in an airtight, dark, sealed container for awhile. They hold their life really well in amber glass, but as soon as they hit large amounts of atmosphere, and light, they change quickly. The cheap plastic they are in is also NOT intended for long term freezing or storage of 1+ years. Longer than that and the compounds will most likely leach plastic.

@Monkey Personally, I would like to say I am pretty ballsy. BUT, I would not mess with pure nic. You might be able to save some more cash that way...but when Nic isn't bound to a carrier, like PG/VG, it is extremely quick to be absorbed into your skin, and possibly deadly.

60mg of nicotine is considered a deadly dose, but when you get even 100mg/ml premixed liquid on your skin, you have a FEW seconds. With pure it is almost instant, and very very scary to me. With lower nics, like 24 and below, you have even longer, and less potential for hazard.

If you have ever had slight nicotine overdose, from vaping too much, too quickly, to high of a nic strenght, you know what I mean. REALLY SCARY.

I would go with the premixed, every time. Pure nic is just TOO much of a risk. Most people say anything over 50mg/ml is too much of a risk, and I would agree. If you don't have gloves/apron/plenty of protective equipment, don't mess with anything over 50mg/ml.

DON'T EVER VAPE ANYTHING OVER 36mg/ml, and that is ONLY for super high users. I was a 2PAD smoker, and with 24mg/ml I am more than satisfied.

@twelveday The BEST way to start DIY, pick up a few flavorings you think you could add to your current liquids, and play with them a bit. I like my blueberry liquids to have some pomegrante in them, but that isn't really possible from many vendors at a cheap price. So I buy cheap blueberry liquid at my 24ml/mg strength, and add some extra blueberry and some pomegrante. I would recommend:
2-3 flavors you think you will like in 6ml or lower sizes,
a 3-6ml syringe,
some empty 5ml bottles, unless you have extra from stuff you have previously vaped.
This way you can doctor up whatever flavors you currently have and see if you enjoy it. For under 15 bucks you can pick all this up at just about any DIY site.

I have used the SR's and the LR's, the standards just don't burn hot enough for me. The LR attys hit it right on the head for every flavor I have tried so far. There are a few I can sneak a little bit more out of my VV device going to 5+volts...but not enough to bother most of the time. I have a great go to menthol, and I keep another filled with a random flavor, blueberry cheesecake at the moment.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with the Standard Resistance. They are just sitting, 4 in the unopened pack still since I got my Ego-C. I use Lr's all day long.

TL;DR = PV for just about everyone except my mother, who has lost 4 ecigs that I have bought her.

I also use "Puffer" as an affectionate name around my friends who ask to use it. "Hey can I use your puffer?"

I talk to a lot of people who smoke, because everyone that I know smokes just about. And at the gun range I get hassled a lot about my guns, and then they see me sucking on my device and they get questioning and I use Personal Vaporizer just because a lot of them think cigarettes are still cool.

I had a gentleman who quit smoking 10 years ago (granted he is a complete idiot, and the range warden on Wednesdays...) ask me what it was, and I told him that I used it to quit cigarettes. He boasted that he did it cold turkey, and when I told him that I quit cigarettes, he mumbled, "Well, almost." and that pissed me off and I simply don't deal with ignorance. I informed him that it was 100% safe and that nicotine is just about the same as caffeine. (Yes I know that the constriction of blood vessels caused by nicotine is a good cause of heart disease.) And he said he didn't believe it and that I was an idiot to think that this was safer...I no longer talk to this man.

So long as you get off of analogs, I am proud of you no matter how you did it.

This is the single best marketing strategy I have ever seen...someone needs to capitalize on this NAO!

P.S. Free condoms with every 3 bottles of juice ordered or with every starter kit!

I doubt anyone would be that much of a ****. The group we have seem to be pretty decent from their posts. I love this game.

Very excited. Can not wait. Very excited. Can not wait.

Very excited. Can not wait. Very excited. Can not wait.

Hi everyone!



This is Elaine




I am starting something new on the forum.



It's called the Mystery Box

THE RULES
(They can always be ammended if you guys don't like um)

The Rules:
1 - It's all in good clean fun, so please keep it that way.
2 - So long as it fits, you may add as much as you like to the box, but if you take from the box, please put something (of similar value) back in for the next person. (Example: If you take a 30ml bottle of juice, don't replace it with a pipette. That's not fair.)
3 - If sending a used item, clean it up a little first. And no one wants junk -- so don't send that.
4 - All contents must remain Vaping or Mod related and work/family safe, no objectionable material please, some may open it infront of their kids.
5 - Once you receive the box, you have 3-5 days to swap or add with/to the box until you should send it on to the next person or if you are last on the list, back to the first person on the list (this should account for weekend deliveries).
6 - You must have a 100 post count to be added to the Mystery Box list.
*Upon receiving the box, you should contact the next person on the list to get their info so that you can send it out if they don't respond with 48hrs they get skipped and the box moves to the next person.
7-No more than 1 bottle per person, must be individually bagged, can't be bigger than 30ml...we have been having a lot of excess eliquid in the box and it is way to much.so I added the new rule above.

The Fine Print:
If you agree to get in on this, you're agreeing that you a) will play fairly and abide by the posted rules; have the funds to ship the box on to the next person (approx $10); and c) will have a good time.

Obviously, there's a small amount of risk to joining this little funfest as there may be nothing in the box that you want to keep . Hopefully though, this will be a lot of fun for everyone as you'll get to peruse the contents of the box however. All that said, play at your own risk...

Please send me your name so I can add you to the Mystery Box list. I will add new people who want in and have 100 posts to next round. Once I send out box, the new rounds starts. we are on Round 3, as of 4/11/2012



1: Elaine
2: The lady D.
3: Kitsune
4:bobthesalesclerk
5: Mega
6:Deadpool8009
7:Sasetrase
8:Kwaione

Deal, Free ebook on DIY is now officially in the works. I hope I can write better via book than I do here. Imma hire kitsune as my editor, and all of you kids as my test puppets AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMAWAHHAHAHA!


Seriously, Imma do it.

I hear ya...I do enjoy spending time, like hunting...but not?

But that is indeed the downfall...you order three times more than what you started to find! You find a cheap deal on Ego batts, and then someone is selling a mod for 12% off, so you pick that up, and then you finally get back to the liquid you wanted...and you order 5 more 6ml samples because they were $1 off...and you then read that they offer free shipping at $100, and you are at 86...but no, those $14 could be spent on supplies and get FREE SHIPPING!!! So you pop another 3 samples in, and hit 106$. so now you are $20 bucks over what you didn't even need in the first place!

I may have went too far in that paragraph...but you get the picture.

Thanks guys. I just really love it. All of it. So happy to be free.

*DISCLAIMER*
Before I get all excited, I have to admit that I have had a few analogs in this time period, but for approx. 30 days I have not had a single analog. So this is both 100 days vaping, and 30 days without smoking.

On with the yelling and screaming.

As of this very moment of posting I have 100 days and 0 hours, 600 dollars saved, and 1500 analogs avoided.

I am realistically at 200 dollars saved (total cost invested about $400), and probably 1470 analogs avoided.

WOOOOOO!!!! I BEAT YOU YOU DIRTY DIRTY STIX!!!! ahahhahahahahah

I am very happy to have found this community, and want to thank you all for contributing a large part of the reason that I have been successful, even if you are a nonposting member, or a guest lurker, and have never posted. Thank you!

Smoking is officially something I never want to do again, but I am sure I will one day and I won't care! Why?! Because I know I don't need to ever again be controlled by a terribly deadly addiction.

The setup that has gotten me to this point? JoyeTech Ego-C 650 mah, LR atties, and Ressurectors. House blend menthol 24mg from Vaporcrave

My newest and most favoritest setup? SmokTech Bolt Mod with AW IMR 18650s and Ressurectors. Ego-C is now backup. I like the C for flavor more, but the draw is just a bit too tight to beat the Ressurectors. House blend menthol 24mg from Vaporcrave

Thanks for letting me rant. Love you guys.

Thank you for the contest Bob! It was a fun time! Generous people like you are a true blessing.

@Monkey Personally, I would like to say I am pretty ballsy. BUT, I would not mess with pure nic. You might be able to save some more cash that way...but when Nic isn't bound to a carrier, like PG/VG, it is extremely quick to be absorbed into your skin, and possibly deadly.

60mg of nicotine is considered a deadly dose, but when you get even 100mg/ml premixed liquid on your skin, you have a FEW seconds. With pure it is almost instant, and very very scary to me. With lower nics, like 24 and below, you have even longer, and less potential for hazard.

If you have ever had slight nicotine overdose, from vaping too much, too quickly, to high of a nic strenght, you know what I mean. REALLY SCARY.

I would go with the premixed, every time. Pure nic is just TOO much of a risk. Most people say anything over 50mg/ml is too much of a risk, and I would agree. If you don't have gloves/apron/plenty of protective equipment, don't mess with anything over 50mg/ml.

DON'T EVER VAPE ANYTHING OVER 36mg/ml, and that is ONLY for super high users. I was a 2PAD smoker, and with 24mg/ml I am more than satisfied.

@twelveday The BEST way to start DIY, pick up a few flavorings you think you could add to your current liquids, and play with them a bit. I like my blueberry liquids to have some pomegrante in them, but that isn't really possible from many vendors at a cheap price. So I buy cheap blueberry liquid at my 24ml/mg strength, and add some extra blueberry and some pomegrante. I would recommend:
2-3 flavors you think you will like in 6ml or lower sizes,
a 3-6ml syringe,
some empty 5ml bottles, unless you have extra from stuff you have previously vaped.
This way you can doctor up whatever flavors you currently have and see if you enjoy it. For under 15 bucks you can pick all this up at just about any DIY site.

lol. love it blu.

WElcome both Fauxsmoker and Monkey!

If you have any questions just ask and we will do our best to help you out! Otherwise there is a HUGE amount of info to sift through to find what you need.

Keep in mind that it might take a bit to find your "perfect" setup, but the time is worth it because...well, look at the alternative.

Glad to have you both!

Decided on Silver bullet. Will be picking that up pretty quickly then. Seems to be a good starting place for a solid MOD. I will keep my eyes peeled for more info on the Z-atty-U. That seems to be intriguing Uma.

Well, I plan on mixing quite a bit for the box...oh god I love mixing

and I do have a few samplers from Sweet-Vapes that I didn't care for, the bakery sampler I picked up wasn't my favorite, but someone else should like the Boston cream pie and sugar cookie, they are delicious, just not my style.

The tobacco menthol sampler wasn't my favorite either. I got the desert ship, camel, and 3 others, that I will never use...apparently I am not a tobacco vaper...I just love my blueberry/pomegrante.

I don't have a lot in the way of PV's though, but I wouldn't take one without having one of equal value to trade back to the box

I really have to ask. KETCHUP E LIQUID?!?! who in the hell is responsible for that?!?! I fear the world may be ending...

lol. I used to use a Blu 3 piece setup back in the day, and they shipped their atty's the same way. It looked like a carto, but it was really just an atty. These were 808 I THINK, but I experienced the same noob momentitis you mention when I tried to fill that carto and just dripped everywhere due to there being no polyfill in the "carto".

After reviewing my case again, after I called him at home and awoke him at 3am, he said he could fit me in this morning.

I showed him your doctors prescriptions and he said that he liked some of the reccomendations that were made by your doctors.

He said he had never heard of Innokin, but that the Innokin Pro seems like a very solid option instead of his previous Riva SE requirement. He quickly scratched that off the list and added the Innokin Pro, with the sanitary cap. (Thanks blucavvy!)

He also removed my Bolt PV, and suggested a silver bullet instead...I told him that it was too expensive! and he slapped me and screamed, "Do you want this to go on forever!" I guess I will be getting a silver bullet...

He then noticed kitsunes 306 LR attys, and said that he had only ever used the 510 attys, but that if they weren't quite cutting the cheese for me, that I might try those instead, and to call him in 1 week with my results.

He told me to double my nic strength for the next day to calm my nerves...and to add 10% more flavor to my blueberry pomegranate every day vape, because clearly it simply isn't working well enough.

I will get this horrible disease under control...even if I have to take a loan, or pawn all of my possesions.

WElcome both Fauxsmoker and Monkey!

If you have any questions just ask and we will do our best to help you out! Otherwise there is a HUGE amount of info to sift through to find what you need.

Keep in mind that it might take a bit to find your "perfect" setup, but the time is worth it because...well, look at the alternative.

Glad to have you both!

I have recently been diagnosed with ANOTHER mental illness...talk about LUCKY!

It's called VAD, the doctor said it is quite serious...and will be extremely expensive to treat, because my insurance won't cover it. I already called them and hammered the customer service girl, but she wouldn't budge.

I guess it stands for Vaping Acquisition Disorder...

So here was his prescription for me, and it looks rather bleak as it will take quite a while for me to fill it:

1 (one) REO Grand (preferably all black)
1 (one) Bolt PV (black)
1 (one) Pro Vari (with Blue display option)
1 (one) Riva SE starter kit
1 (one) 510/EGO 3.5 ml DCT (clear)
1 (one) 30 ml bottle of Bobas Bounty juice

Without all of the above items, he says I will surely die unhappy. He didn't say that it actually affected my life expectancy, but he did say my quality of life would suffer. Possibly to an extent that would certainly cause me to be institutionalized.

Feel free to post any of your guys diagnoses...and the accompanying prescriptions you recieved. It would be nice to know I am not alone on this.

From the shadows! Another lurker converted!

Glad to have ya!