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Sux. I perused. I saw something about a filter on the AC but if you were plugged into a UPS, they usually filter (the better ones). Does it at least seem to static up or change in some way when you play with the AC cord or the audio lines?

That sounds like an RF issue. So when the speakers are powered, nut not connected to anything, you hear it? Here s a search that might help... http://www.google.com/search?q=radio+station+from+speakers+interference&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Is or really the only option?

LOL. Again, great to hear from you!!!

I want... http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tPg1ZMiC9pA

Smokin did post a link to the anthem, but I listened and forgot again how it went.

Speakeasy - how goes it? Long time. Wonderful post there. I was going to start trying to google to see if I can find out if anyone has postulated how much the damage to the cardiovascular system is the result of smoking, as opposed to nicotine. I was always under the impression it was the act of smoking. Anyway, you have excellent advice in regards to hardwired talking to their doctor. I guess my point all along in the other thread is worry about the smoking first, then reducing the nicotine. If you remember that's what I did, I had a dissection of the celiac artery (at 51) and wanted to take better care of myself. Okay, that's a lie, my wife was giving me heck about taking care of myself so I weaned off the nic as well. This thread really got me thinking I didn't have to but what the heck. I think it ended up costing me about 8 pounds extra because once I got done with the nic, the urge to vape went away. Once in a while I try some when working with others and I freak because while there is no throat hit with no nic, its brutal with even just 6 or 10.

I guess if I knew how their anthem went, it'd make more sense. No disrespect meant to our neighbors to the north, but its an anthem I forget 10 seconds after hearing it. Except the O Canada part.

I was wondering about that. I asked the guy who sent it but we were both at work so stealth watching. I asked what that thing was way out, looked like water.

Excellent add. My advice,FWIW, go decent nic for a little bit, get real comfy with vaping and then start. There have been studies indicating you don't get as much nic through vaping as you do a cig so not sure that should be an issue. Regardless, after another week or two, start cutting down. Easy peasy. I would say after 8-16 weeks, you should be at zero. I will look things up if I can, but I'm 50% sure, its smoking that kills the arteries, not nicotine. Have to find out for sure (if the data is there). As far as headaches and such go, there is a thread on side effects. I'm not saying you should ignore anything, but there are side effects.

I just got my blue foam. So do I really have to pull it out to load a cart? I like the PTB method because if ou roll it right and leave a hole up the middle, loading again is just a simple drip drip drip...

As with all things in this life, its only bad if it adversely affects you and yours. If you find yourself not going places, doing things or being anxious because of it, you should probably try to nip it in the bud before it gets worse. JMHO

Ummm - no, not at all. Nothing like that. Of course not. I don't know what you mean. I'm not sure I know what I meant. I'm sorry. How are you these days? Haven't seen you around lately but I see you still have that fantastic sense of humor. What were we talking about? (see, 25 years experience, breathe it in guys, breathe it in...)

Ahhh - the cart part threw me. Yeah - that's my wife, when I weaned down to 0, I threw her on too. She was easy...though there was a little kicking and screaming due to lack of throat hit. She was a weekend warrior, only smoked when drinking.

Sounds good, like I said, shouldn't seem tough to do, make sure its comfortable for you first, one hurdle at a time, then try to reduce and slowly if you can. If BP is an issue, I think the lack of smoking rather than reduction of nic will help that more. Apologies to all for the freaking double post. I hate when I do that. I think I'm editing, and really replying...all that to add these lines: Added: I found the discussion we had on nicotine. I think speakeasy convinced me it's about as bad as caffeine. http://www.vaportalk...-about-choices/

As I got older and continued smoking, my wife was constantly breaking my chops about slowly killing myself. I pointed out that I never thought I'd see the age of 40, amazing I made 30 so I always had a fatalistic approach to life. Don't get me wrong, being on this side of the ground is cool nd I'm over 50 now, but I don't get worried about things I probably should. Had to do something about smoking as I couldn't even lay flat without coughing, thank goodness my brother had an e-cig for me to try, I realized I can do this. Researched and ordered, awesome. Hey - how did this get back to And you're right, some friends didn't make out to well, we were lucky. One was a guy with us that day, not dead, just not a good time for many years.

At least he knew going in, got to give him props for that!!! Next comes taps...

I guess I ended up derailing the thread. Sorry jm. I just figured nana was going to show up sooner or later...might as well try and diffuse! ;-)

I'm going to go politically correct. When my wife is vaping, or not vaping, she is definitely hot. See, a perfect non answer from a man married more than 25 years.

I actually had a very similar incident on the golf course 20+ years ago. We called it the Reunite open (yes as in the wine, we had two coolers on a county course where no alcohol was allowed). We had to turn one cart in after nine holes, they don't make good bumper cars. Halfway through second nine, my friend driving my cart is screwing around making sharp turns, on a sharp left turn, if felt like I was way up in the air and about to flip over so I came out of the cart. The result of this is the cart violently rolled over my friend, broke his ankle, righted itself after ejecting the cooler, gas linkage was locked on and the cart took off until it imbedded itself like a bullet into a mudbank of a stream, part in the stream, part bank. We had to get the other cart in our foursome to clean up the beers and wine and get the evidence out of there. I took the cart back to the parking lot, passing the ranger who was on his way to my injured friend. I muttered something about an accident. I insisted for years I was thrown from the cart and only recently finally admitted I bailed. Luckily the people behind us said the cart was out of control, so the mistaken assumption by everyone was the pedal stuck and caused the accident. I'm not sure how anyone explained two bags of ice strewn about the hole. County paid the medical bills and my friend wasn't even really mad at me even though he and the other two guys pretty much were convinced (correctly) I bailed. The other cart were on the green and watching every minute of it so they saw me push out. Ahhh - the stupid old days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=828GBy7xr0c

You've seen 0 nic carts? Curious where.

Hope you see this, took me a while to write. ;-) Ha - the lighter thing is so funny, and the patting down for the pack of cigs, it goes away. I'm not sure of the urgency you have in reducing, but I did it as well for medical reasons. Short synopsis is I started at 24mg. I kept to the same rituals as smoking, tried to keep it one per hour, go outside (I didn't smoke indoors). I did this until I got the hang of vaping. Once I was cool with that (several weeks), I had various juices with varying levels of nic. I was menthol so that made it easy and hard. Trying to find a good flavor of menthol is tougher than you think. VaporTalk Mentha very nice. Anyway, each week or two, I would cut down a couple of mg. So I had the 16mg and 24mg of Mentha, and I'd start mixing the two (rough mix) to reduce. I had to introduce lower levels and zero nics to get the mix lower. After many weeks, I was down to zero. Now there's two weird things about this, once I got below say 16mg, I started vaping a lot, indoors, stealth at work, etc. My wife was getting concerned but my theory was I'm probably not going to OD at the lower levels so go for it. Also, once I was at zero for a week or two, the urge to even vape drifted almost completely away. It's like the brain finally gave up and said, fine have it your way. I'm forcing myself these days because I have an extra 8 pounds I can't get rid of. Wouldn't be a terrible thing except I went into this with an extra 15 pounds I needed to drop. LOL. So it can be done and can be without stress and completely painless. My theory is the two addictions are really different, and this is just my theory. One is a pavlovian response and one is physical. The brain knows the act of smoking gets it that good nicotine stuff that makes you happy (and not jittery). So there are two queues to smoking. One the actual physical withdrawal, jittery, ragey, snapping, on edge. This most agree only takes a week to two to get over. The mental is the I need a smoke when there is stress, drinking, etc. This is because your brain knows that gets it the good stuff when cig goes to mouth. I think when we chain or smoke even most times, its not a call for nic, just the brain saying I know what to do, have a cig. In fact, I'll be so bold as to suggest that I rarely needed a cigarette to satisfy any nic withdrawal as I smoked so much the brain never had a chance to even experience it withdrawal. Maybe in the morning or after a long plane flight. All else was the brain saying just do it you dumb addict. Why else is there chain smoking? I also think that's why my brain gave up trying to smoke, the addictions/responses were finally beaten down. Last part of story is I did try 0 halfway through my journey. I was doing good and figured why not. After a day I found out what actual nicotine withdrawal is all about. Man I was a nasty bast--- (yes Dave, even nastier than normal). So back the the original plan, whew. Family thanks me as well. ;-) I hang out here mostly because all these guys probably saved my life.

Everyone talks about the learning curve. While the goal is no cigs, I always say don't let yourself get frustrated so much you stop trying, grab a cancer stick if you need to while you experiment. No failure in that, only failure is giving up trying, but it should be as painless as possible making the switch. IMHO Why would you want to go low nic menthol? Sounds like bumping to 24 started doing the trick!!