FTJoe

I had to try and capture the one comment... "In every society, in every part of the world, in every period of history there is always a large group of people who simply want to be left alone to live their lives according to their best judgment, and there's always a smaller more domineering group that believe they are so good at running their own lives, they are just naturally entitled to run every one else's as well. Fantastic... Jefferson's quote very apt as well. A balance must be found. "...a wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."

Not for nothing, and it is off topic (but mine). While I agree with the Speakeasy thesis on Nicotine not being that bad, actually getting people to go zero would be a first step to get the device off the nicotine replacement list and more on to the list of devices to aid in stop smoking. I know that sounds stupid, because as soon as you start vaping you have stopped smoking but that's how the masses/goobermint think. All current NRTs and drugs are to get someone to stop smoking, you are supposed to eventually stop the NRT and drug after a while. I know, I'm a dreamer.

Not sure if this is helpful, bou to clear an atty when someone is trying different juices, I keep a small 3ml bottle of USPS VG around that I fill from a big bottle. Drip, burn, drip burn, etc. Maybe it would help with this junk as well?

Yes - I have quite a bit of VT juice in the nic section for my friends/noobs to try. I try to push that first out of loyalty. That is a bottle of 24mg Dulcis. Also shown are my someday collector items, Trandition Tobacco, very proud of those as well!! Didn't even realize I still had the Dulcis in 24mg, ordered another over the weekend but it is popular. Nice thing about the 0mg option I can mix up different strength for folks until we get close to what they need. For the tobacco flavor I need all 3 strength available.

That's fantastic.

LOL...I just noticed I never finished the last sentence as I do not think I have tons of stuff. I meant to say I have tons of stuff...on loan. I wish to be far more prepared than this in case there is a ban. But the loan stuff may come back. One friend stopped but was never really committed, her husband and a common friend is upset she stopped. Problem is another friend had told her this is not approved by the FDA so she stopped until she can research. So that's a PCC, three batts and 5 attys I'll have to get back and clean up. Another is doing great, that's a big 30ml bottle in the back of a drawer for them. I'm very proud of them and they are proud of themselves, that is a permanent loan, PCC, 3 regular one mega batt, 4 attys. Going to have them try an ego battery and a few cartos tonight, I think the ego and cartos is as close to perfect as you can get even/ especially for a beginner. Someone at work is bringing back another setup, any day now... Another one at work is lost forever but that's okay, they lost their job. So I think I need to get my little experiment going with all the different types of attys and devices and fluids so I can get a good idea of where to stock up. 25 attys or so, even with the 60 cartos I have is not enough in my opinion. And I don't vape that much anymore!!

So here is the pic after getting my weekend deliveries. Plus my 8 10440 batteries came in for the Spade that I will probably get refurbished and then put out to pasture. My 0mg nic VT juice in top left container. Empty bottles in top right container and more coming. Surrounded by a few more 0mg bottles and chargers, mega pcc, etc. The draw on left is lots of cartos, carts, drip tips and hypos. On back right is my with nic juices, for my peeps, lots of carts as well. Front right is my no nic juice, been trying things but sticking with VT juice for now. Trying to find the right mix of 0mg Mentha and Dulcis, getting there. Center is the heart, regular batteries, indulgence, spade, four ego batts. Also mega and regular 510 batts, low res attys, regular 801, 510 and some 901 attys. HV 510, 901 and 801 attys. Adapters, battery adapters and other sundry items. Guess I should throw my JantyStick V2 in there as well, I think its in the back of my car somewhere. So even though I have lots of cartos, I think I should get some more low res attys (I have 10-15 now) and regular attys. I have tons of stuff .

Is that still an 801 model? Did you try an atty from another vendor? just saying some folks like the 801s. Glad to hear it wasn't a waste though!!

Yeah - most cars have a port somewhere that stays live even if you aren't driving. Draw shouldn't be too much to kill the battery. I have two of these, seemed to work fine (of course was in AZ at the time, sun not an issue. The one I linked to earlier happened to come up on a deal site. Remember, these are just batteries, charge via usb at first, then the sun provides a trickle charge at not effort or cost to you (I believe even ambient light will work). Just not sure how much of a charge you will get from it butthe mah on them seems poretty decent.

In the words of Mr. Burns...Excellent...

Didn't you already give permission for everyone to make fun? Sit back and enjoy!!! So when you argue with yourself, who wins?

I still say two ego batts at $23 each. Last a day or almost each. One charging, one working. Cartos and done!!!! Fill five to ten at a time...

Thanx - trust me, I'm certainly not the only one who does it, but if you call my name out, its a thank you and certainly not what I'm looking for. A lot of folks have helped me in the past. And whatever I did is certainly not as generous as what you are doing. kudos. By the way, most folks aren't shy about need, they are proud, might actually be tough for them to speak out. And its not like they're on food stamps (not that there's anything wrong with that), but if something can be done to stretch someone out so they don't have to a cig, I'm all for it. In my humble opinion, it's best to leave these things as PMs. The absolute best thing to do is take the time, troll the boards and give good advice and support to those in need of simple help. I'm out, trouble at home so apologies for not taking more time with my response.

Foam not for me, I'm dripping or cartos, for others. But when I used it, it was pretty good.

Becoming more and more popular are solar battery packs. I have a few for charging. No good for a PT but should get the job done. Just saw a nice big one for $20. Point is its portable, keep the PCC plugged in and IF you have sun, should be good. Even if not, should be good for a while (the solar charges an internal battery which charges your externals. Something like this (no idea on reviews). usually you can charge with a USB and the solar keeps it topped off... http://www.buy.com/prod/lenmar-powerport-ppus20-usb-solar-battery-charger-5v-dc-mini-usb/q/loc/111/211047430.html I also have tons of these little things http://www.amazon.com/Lenmar-PowerPort-Mini-Where-Charger/dp/B00178NHYU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1274179768&sr=8-6 The red and pink ones are cheap, charge and keep handy.

Okay - let us know how it works out. I hate to see you give up on what many think is a nice device. You've tried other atomizers?

Is that a good thing? I thought we were trying to do better than that. Though I have to admit its been so long since I used the original, I don't remember.

Kewl - thanx. I'm a carto guy but need to have stuff for folks to try.

Did you notice the wetbox being promoted that will be out this week I think? Clouds of vapor I think? No idea on the cost. Also, cartos are a very nice option, I think the soft caps might be doable for refilling but I think plenty of vendors are doing prefilled cartos which seemed reasonable. I would suggest cartos with a 3.7 device (you can buy ego batts for $23, charger for 10 or the 510, but less hassle charging the ego batts. Apologies I am not visually impaired but wanted to throw out my opinions.

I got this fluval item. And also this blue foam. Just wanted to make sure its okay and I'm not going to kill someone...

I should have mentioned why I make a distinction about the productive cough, I had one but not within a couple of days. I feel it was my lungs finally being able to get rid of the junk. I think it's more likely you have too much nic causing a wicked throat hit and coughing fit or atty issues (going dry, a bum atty, etc.

I drip with an LR atty, or for on the go a drip tip with a soft cap carto to extend it a little further out from the cone. Both are excellent options with the ego. I have more LR attys than regular now (not including cartos).

Chillax and congrats. I looked at the post count of that person when I saw the comment. I don't mean to diminish anyone's worth based on a post count, but I know I usually lay a little low and be super nice after only five posts. And that's me, I'm naturally obnoxious!!

I had a Janty Stick, was okay, retired now in favor of the 510 megas, Spade and now ego batts with cartomizers. If you are coughing alot, and it's not productive, maybe the nicotine level is too high. I dripped in the stick I had (V2). What kind/strength of juice did you get and what did you used to smoke? Also, make sure you take nice long even hits. I also always kept the device down to make sure the juice was getting to the atty.

As my son would say...fail... LOL Good job guys, I never got past 125K or so. Then again, I get distracted easily...