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I get PG and VG from Bulk Apothecary, Nic an lab stuff from Wizard Labs Flavoring from The Flavor Apprentice (TFA) and Flavor West.

That is good news, I wonder how it will effect the PMTA process though.

It would have been nice for someone to say something. However, If they would have told her, there may have been a chance that she could have gotten trapped. Double edge sword there...

OH MY! Glad she is ok!!!

You go! It makes me feel good when people find out how DIY can not only be good, but just down right fun!

As Jason said there is the fact that these regs will affect everyone differently. Me, personally, I'm set for a very long time. It is the new vapers and the ones still smoking and want to quit that will be done the most harm. I do have hope, but I must look at a more realistic view. Ever here the old saying "Hope for the best and plan for the worst", That would apply here.

As an added note to my post, companies will/would pass this added cost on to customers. I would have to sell $138,083.00 in product per day to pay (if the PMTA cost was only $300,000.00) for the PMTA on one flavor and bottle size. When you start breaking down the cost per bottle it would go far beyond the ability for most to afford or want to spend. Why spend $100-500 or more dollars for 1 10ml bottle when you can buy a couple packs of smokes for $18-25? At these prices it would be years, if ever, a company making juice would see a profit. For me and my sales I would have to charge way more than $5000 per bottle and still not see a profit. There would be no point in staying in business. You will find this to be the case with 99% of the companies out there. They only way a company could survive this is be by selling 100s of thousands of bottles a day.

I am not a doctor or work in the medical field, but just as precaution I would not vape large clouds in the same room with your baby. I would also, as with smoking, would not vape while you are pregnant or breast feeding. The unknowns are not worth the risk. Vaping is better for you than smoking and there are studies that have proven that. There are no studies about pregnancy and vaping. Most of us take the stance that is better error on the side of caution when it comes to this.

Yeah it is a stubborn sucker.

I think you are somewhat miss guided in your thoughts. It will cost me 8.5 billion to register every juice I have with all the variants. I'm just a small company with 49 flavors. The industry as a whole only brought in 5-6 billion for 2015. The numbers are facts and if just my one company needs more than the whole industry took in last year, then it will close 99% of them down. It is going to cost around 1 million per flavor per variant to apply for the PMTA and there is not a guarantee that it will even pass. Since 2009 only 1 product has passed the PMTA process and that was a Snus product. Big Tobacco are the only ones with the labs in place and money to push through the PMTA process. Cost For PMTA on 1 of my Flavors Broke Down: Hydra's Delight 0 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 0 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 2 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 4 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 6 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 8 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 10 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 12 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 14 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 16 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 18 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 20 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 24 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 28 mg Max VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 100/0 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 90/10 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 80/20 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 70/30 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 60/40 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 55/45 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 50/50 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 45/55 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 40/60 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 30/70 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg PG 20/80 VG Cost 1 million 32 mg Max VG Cost 1 million Grand Total $168,000,000.00 Just for 1 flavor, 1 bottle size. and all the variants. This does not include the other 3 bottle sizes or the options for extra flavor or sweetener. The truth is in the math and given at a Min cost of $300,000.00 per flavor and variant the cost is $50,400,000.00 Sorry about the table below I can't delete it...

At least some are getting it right (Skip survey to view full article) http://us.blastingnews.com/opinion/2016/05/pardon-the-intrusion-america-please-keep-smoking-00934239.html

I get my PG and Kosher VG from Bulk Apothecary, always a good clean a pure taste. When I first started making juice for myself I used what you can get at Wally World, it always left a film in my mouth and like a build up in the back of my throat.

Hydration and, this may sound strange but coffee grounds. Taste tasters use coffee grounds to reset their taste buds. Just open a can coffee and take in a few deep breaths of the coffee smell. It does work.

Here we are fighting for our right to vape and then this... http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/health/exploding-vaporizer-rip-tongue-trnd/index.html I can't tell what battery he has/had or what he had for a build on his Mech Mod, but I can guess it was carelessness. I'm sure the FDA will this as evidence that they need to go back to 2007 equipment. I think what makes me the most angry about this is this was "Just a Hobby" and he wants to "Warn all the Kids to think twice"... It is all about the "Kids" right?

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I will add they are also rebuildable!

Even if the Cole Bishop passes, this registration for the stores/manufacturers and the products still has to be done and it will not be free. As Demitri said in the video it will not be cheap either. If the store/manufacturer can not pay or choose not to, they must close. Cole Bishop only would effect the PMTA process.

It is in an easy to understand wording. Best guess to your question. It would depend on if the company you are buying from registers in Dec of this year.

See page 2 of the PDF from SAFATA http://sfata.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SFATADeemingReuglationsAnalysis.pdf

Yes these are all in affect now to some degree. Manufactures have till Aug 8th to full comply to these. As of Aug 8th there is a new product freeze. After Aug 8th no new products may be offered unless they have gone through the PMTA process and have FDA approval.

There has been a lot of talk about having 2 more years before things can get better or worse. I have been hearing that manufactures have until Dec 31st of 2016 to register their companies. This will involve a cost. Unsure of what that amount will be. Then there is a Feb date in 2017 that manufactures need to submit a list of every product sold, Ingredient of each product, where you buy the ingredients and testing results on each ingredient yada yada. Start watching this video at around 1:11:00 They do talk about what is coming in August before this, this is where Demitri and Phil start talking about the other upcoming dates. I'm in no way inciting a panic. Please understand we are all trying to understand what is coming down the pike so to speak. You may or may not see a large drop in stores because of this alone. When things affect suppliers they affect consumers. Please take the time to learn what is ahead. Most of all support the fight as best you can.

Found this while searching your problem: "If lifting the pin does not help you may have liquid in the battery housing that has shorted your battery, if you have a leaky clearomizer this can ruin your battery. Clean out the top of the pin with a clean and dry qtip and let it sit for a day. This can dry out any liquid inside and may bring it back to life (rare but it can happen), we do not cover batteries shorted by leaking cartomizers, when your battery is opened if there is liquid inside it it will not be covered, please check your clearomizers often for signs of leakage. Do you have a Blinking Battery? This usually means a battery has been shorted. But if it blinks 10 or more times it's usually means it needs to be charged, do that first. If it doesn't charge that means it's shorted or dead. Steps to try: 1. Turn it off with the 5 click, let it sit for a hour, put it back on the charger. When fully charged, turn it back on and use. 2. Try to turn it on again, sounds silly but I myself have accidently turned off batteries! 5 Click! 3. Try a different carto/clearo/device 4. Try to back off on the carto/clearo a half turn, the device might be shorting your battery. 5. Try the center post lift trick above, if the center post is severly compressed the positive center post will be making contact with the negative shell and causing a short, lift the pin it may stop the short. 6. Bang It! Yo! This sounds really silly but when all else fails, give it a shot, smack the battery (bottom first) on a hard surface (not so hard as to leave a dent! Give these a shot and see if helps...

Has the latch-able tote worked for you?

No, I get it pre diluted from a Lab to 100mg or 10%. It is diluted with VG PG or combo of PG/VG. I like it diluted with 100% VG myself. Nicotine is not diluted with water. But Yes Pure Nicotine is deadly.

LOL Your welcome. LOL LMAO... I'll be sure not to pull my Jason.