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I noticed the same thing about the mouthpiece. One thing that annoyed me about my regual 801 kit was that the mouthpiece was too soft. The mouthpiece that came with the 801 attys in the VP2 set are stiffer (well they were before I started knawing on it ALL day). I find it easier to draw off of. I was actually glad to get the atty's because they perform much better than the all black ones that I have.

But seriously...what is it? They only saw what it is not. It doesn't have "harmful" glycerin vapor...but they don't say what the vapor is. I don;t want one...I just want to know whats behind the curtain.

I have been using the 510 for awhile and really liked it. I just finished my first day with my new VP2 and I probably won't pick up the 510 or the 801 for awhile. I origanlly planned on making the 510 the on the go device and the VP2 my home device (its a little obnoxious looking), but after spending a few hours with it last night I could't resist taking it with me. I took it off the charger at 7 a.m. and it was still kicking when I got home at 10:30 p.m. I didn't skimp either I wen't through 5ml of juice chain vaping through out the day. Normally I can secretly vape with the 510 if I am left alone in the office for a minute, but I was busted several times today because of the haze left behind from the plums of vapor this thing was producing. I have not tried the Janty Stick or the pure smoker passthru, but if price is the issue look at the pure smoker for home use. http://www.puresmoker.com/category_s/51.htm

No, your not the only one. That stuff is defintley in my past, but now that I have achieved vapor that simulates an analog, thats not enough anymore. It's funny you mentioned the bottle because I suddenly remembered entire parties in my younger days spent around the kithen sink smoking out of sawed off 2 liters. The only problem is if we are successful in producing and inhaling that much nicotine vapor you just turn a clamy green and have to lie down.

Almost forgot, the jackassery continues. After watching the bloopers blog in the video forum today, I decided to vape two e-cigs at once, so I could be like Sean. I dripped two dropes in the 801 and two in the VP2 (Dulcis), and then I took the longest slow milkshake drag I could take take and almost passed out. What is my problem? I started out just trying to simulate the amount of smoke I would get from an analog and now its like I'm at my own personal frat party for one standing on my head doing gravity vapes. I think I'll pick up that webcam today.

I got the same email on Saturday and figured with Columbus Day the shipment wouldn't get here till Thursday, but it was sitting on my doorstep when I got home from work. Unfortunatley I got home at 10:30 PM so I had to wait till this morning for the first charge. In my excitment I fired up the uncharged battery right away. I got the green LED. I pulled out every e-cig I have, even dusted off the smoking everywhere model for the event. According to my little quit smoking banner I have been at this for 41 days and have saved $150, but somehow I have amassed an arsenal of e-cigs: 2 510 starter kits, one in black and the other a scorpion (red ring), the smoking everywhere RN4081, and a manual 801 from awesome vapor. I almost passed out going from one to the other "critically" vaping. I really need to get a webcam so I can document my JackAssery. Remember I didn't charge the battery, so it was kind of stupid to try and do a comparison. From a pure vapor production standpoint the 510 got the most vapor on the first hit, but it tastes funny. It was almost like the smaller chamber causes the vapor to be more dense. Between the two 801 atty's, the silver one from vaperlife killed the all black one (with gun metal ring) from awesomevapor. I tried both atty's on the manual 801 battery and the (uncharged)VP2 battery. As the silver atty started to break in, and 5ml's of liquid latter, it started to really rock. AND THEN I woke up at 7:00 A.M. with out an alarm, like it was christmas morning, but instead of a new bike I ran into the room and ripped the fully charged battery off the wall and got set up. Now remember the other 4 starter kits I mentioned? You would think by now I would trust that you have to do the initial charge. YOU DO! I really like the VP2. Great Vapor, Great Flavor, Consistant, and the perfect accesory if you forget your glow stick at the rave (they still have raves right?) I think I can finally pull in the reighns of model purchases for awhile.......well after I get a Janty stick...and a pure smoker pass thru...and those e-cigars look kind of cool...and isn't there a maserati coming out......I might need to try the VP1 as well. The tragic part of this tale is that I waited to long to re-up my juice and I may have to break into the box of failed flavor experiments (Stupid Columbus Day).

When I ordered my first 510 kit I got excited and ordered the JC starter kit as well. I was disappointed with the liquid, but I LOVE the tin and all the cool tools that come with it. Wether you like the juice or not it is no big deal because the tin is perfect for storing all of your stuff and the precision tweezers are really cool. I found that JC juice has a unique flavor unlike any other liquid I have tried. Almost every other brand of liquid has a similiar vaping experience, and JC is just a different animal. I often thought that it would apeal to cigar and pipe smokers more. I definitley recommend ordering one bottle of liquid from a different vendor so you have something to compare it to. Don't worry about the crazy flavors just get something like a tobacco or an RY4 so you can see the difference in consistancy (I find JC to have a thick oily feel) and vapor production. If you can't decide on a brand go with VT Dulcis or Awesomevapor.com RY-4. The nice thing about awesomevapor is you can pick a 3.5ml sample bottle of a different flavor for free with your 15ml purchase. Don't sweat the JC purchase because the box and cool extras are well worth the purchase price, you might like the liquid, you will know for yourself what JC tastes like...and this is by far not the last e-liquid purchase you will make.

When on the go the PCC is a must. For awhile I was carrying the 510 and 801 around with me, but now I just take the PCC(fully charged) and one battery and atty. When I am done I take it apart and put it in the PCC. I get through a 12 hour work day with no problem. Of course if the battery or atty die I'm screwed.

I saw another cool xase on the liquid express site that comes with their DIY kit.

Thanks again for making it happen Chris.

I waited until midnight to sign on and then I realized California is 3 hours behind Florida. I must say Arnold took me by surprise. So...Whats next?

I recently ordered the Vapor Talk Grape Soda Liquid after seeing the Grimm Green review in the 24mg because I wanted to be able to add “reckless throat hit” to my vocabulary and try a grape flavor. I ordered from dietsmokes and accidentally received Janty Grape. I mentioned that this might have been the case on the forum because the confirmation email said Janty USA has shipped you an order. Immediately Chris stepped in and had VT Grape Soda shipped and delivered almost the same day as the Janty Juice (Thanks Chris). They let me keep the Janty Juice to boot. So now, I have a perfect opportunity to compare the two. Service: excellent. Fast shipping and resolution of any issues. Presentation: Janty: The Janty Grape bottle looks like a mini bottle of Robotussin. It has a very serious looking medicine bottle label on it. I am not sure of the nicotine content because I didn’t order it and it doesn’t say. VT: The bottle has the same cool label as my other VT liquids and clearly states what flavor and nicotine content is in the bottle. This is the first time I ordered 24 mg and was pleased to see a color-coding system on the cap (Orange for 24mg / Blue for 16mg). Vapor Production: They both produce great vapor. The Janty produces vapor consistent with other Janty liquids I have ordered and the VT juice produces the same amount as the Dulcis I have been vaping like a fiend. Amount of Liquid: Every time I order Janty liquids, the bottles are never full. This bottle was the same style 10ml bottle as the VT liquid, but was only 3/4ths full. The VT liquid was full to the brim, so either Janty critically measures exactly 10 ml of liquid into the bottle or they short you. Either VT gives you exactly 10mls or they just top off the 10ml bottle and don’t sweat the extra measurement. Either way there is something psychological about receiving a full bottle and a bottle that looks like I have been vaping it all day. Flavor: The VT juice is better Janty: There is a subtle grape flavor, but there is also a reminiscent incense flavor. It is thick and seems like what grape incense would smell like. After you have vaped it for a couple of days this goes away and it is not a bad flavor VT: The grape flavor is essentially the same, but without the musky incense vibe. It smells exactly like grape soda in the bottle. I have also had a few vapes where the grape soda flavor comes through. I have used it as an all day vape and enjoyed it. Personally, I would like to see this flavor replaced with a cola or red bull flavor, if it does not sell well for VT. Throat hit: They both have great throat hit. I now know what reckless throat hit means. I probably will stick to 16mg because reckless describes it. I do like having it around for those times I need a kick in the throat, and I will probably continue to order my experimental flavors in 24mg. If you are in the market for a grape flavor go with the VT grape soda.

I don't know if this the right place, but for a minute the discussion turned to inconsistent atty's and Chinese manufacturers, so here it goes. Is it a legal thing, or a financial overhead thing, that an American Manufacturer has not started producing atty's? It does not seem like the technology is that advanced. Granted I couldn't design one, but Jeso apparently figured out the battery side and is producing a quality product that beats Chinese made batteries hands down. I feel Chrisahx's pain. I have one 510 atty that is my favorite. I talk to it at night as I lovingly blow out any excess liquid, wipe it down, and sit it in a special place upside down so it won't get mixed up with the other riff raff. With the legality issue looming on the horizon I can how it is not feasible to invest in this type of thing. This has bothered me for a while; why China?

I agree with biezman, I would go with the 510 AND get it from awesomevapor.com I have several 510's and the PCC is a MUST. The batteries on any of the minis is horrible. You have to be able to charge it on the go. Arno at awesome vapor has been by far the best vendor I have dealt with. He will answer any email you send him quickly. He will immediatley get parts that do not work to you immediatley with no hassle. As Chrishax mentioned ALL e-cigs come from China, so all of the vendors are going to get boxes that have duds in them. The important thing is to find a vendor who cares. With any e-cig you choose it IS going to wear out and break, especialy the atomizer. You WILL have to replace these, and having a vendor that will respond to you and ship quickly is important. I also saw that you asked Auto or Manual. The Manual is another must. The juice can leak into the battery from the atomizer and the manual batteries are sealed, plus yuo have more control.

Jiffy I invested a lot of time energy into trying to make the carts work. How much you get out of it depends on HOW you fill it, WHAT stuffing you are using, HOW you replace that stuffing, and the temperment of your atomizer. The 510 does get pretty hot and can suck up more juice, but EVERY atty I have bought so far has been different. Some are hotter than others, some have an arc to their life span. There are several videos on you-tube on how to refill your carts and how to replace the stuffing. You will definitley get more than 1 or 2 analogs worth out of a cart, but after the first couple of puffs it will always taste like burning fiber. You have to work the liquid down into the cart. It is not full the first time you see it pool at the top. I found using a syringe is the easiest (and creepiest)way to fill a cart. That being said I found the easiest thing to do was cary a bottle of liquid around in my unused lighter pocket and live in flavor country every time I wanted to vape. You will get at least 1 analog worth this way. You also know how much liquid you have at all times, with no waste. Sometimes with dripping you think it is done, but you have to set it down for a minute and let the atomizer cool down.

There is a discussion on this forum somewhere in the Noobie Area that whent pretty deep into carrying case ideas, try searching for it. The end result of the discussion was similiar to what you are talking about. Someone ended up buying a diabetic syringe carry case. You can fit you e-cig and a couple bottles of liquid in it. I searched "diabetic syringe case" and the first link produced this: http://www.insulincase.com/Medicool-DI-Case-Diabetic-Insulin-Carry-Case--P304.aspx

I am back in Florida now but I lived in NYC for 5 years and the winters are brutal compared to Centtral Florida. You cannot smoke ANYWHERE in Manhattan. Basically what everyone says is true, You put on your full gear and go outside real business like. I worked in at recording studios and some of them would have lounges you could smoke in. The worst was at a bar. You had to suit up and go outside everytime you wanted to smoke.

From the last video I saw Chris do, he has a lifetime supply of liquid and random e-cigs in the plastic organizer drawers behind him. I have not seen the video you are talking about, but I have seen discussions about using snooze to infuse Vegetable Glycerine with nicotine. You could try searching the different forums to find it, I believe the one I saw was on the e-cig forum. The people who were doing it on that forum were soaking it for a long time and then discarding the snooze packets and direct dripping the infused liquid. I have found that the best way to find out these kinds of answers is to buy an extra atomizer(in-case you fry it) and just make it answer your questions. The answer I would want to know aside from if it worked or not was somekind of conversion for nicotine mg's. Like X snooze packets soaked in X mls of VG for X amount of time will produce X mls of X mg snooze-juice. My fear would be that you could accidentally make a near lethal liquid by overconcentrating the nicotine content, or have a really weak batch. I know that if you infuse things like butter with other kinds of herb, even a teaspoon will knock you on your butt.

Nice. Next week keeps getting better and better.

That is all you can expect to get from the cart. I tried every trick in the book, or youtube anyway, to make carts work. The only way to get consistant vapes is to drip. I was totally against it at first, but then I realized no matter what I did with the cart I would get three or four good hits then, meh. With dripping you vape until you get meh and then you drip more, plus no wierd smoking pillow flavor.

I ran out of Dulcis and thought a RY-4 would be the same. It wasn't. I imediatly ordered some more Dulcis and a side car of Grape from dietsmokes. Then I got an email saying my order from JANTY USA had been shipped. Usualy it said dietsmokes. I am very nervous the wrong order is on the way...and I need my caramel fix!

Ordered my VP2 tonight. Must say I might feel a lttle awkward at first wearing a suit and vaping this thing, but if it lives up to its expectations I don't care if I look like I'm holding a rave toy.

JMHester, post the guavaween event, I grew up in Tampa and subsecuently YBOR. I am in Orlando now but me and my highschool buds always make the trek to Tampa for Guavaween.

This post inspired me so much that I whent to puresmoker.com, set-up an account and tried to purchase an 801 passthru, but everytime I click on the add to cart link I get a screen saying your cart is empty...must be fate saying cool your jets

I want this thing...Unfortunatley the recent VP2 purchase has put other purchases on hold. Compared to the other passthru's I have seen this thing looks quality, plus there is the whole voltage thing. Anyway this is the video that sealed the deal for me. If you have never seen a grimmGreen video enjoy: