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I use them with Boba's - 100% VG. I haven't really had a problem - except I think they make the cartos go bad faster. Of course, I am still new enough I am not sure how long one SHOULD last, but I can only use them 4-5 times tops before having to toss. I use a syringe to fill them, and I think that helps them absorb more quickly.

That is kind of what got me thinking about trying something else. When my Leo is on - it is fantastic. But occasionally the draw just isn't right, or something is off, and I am less than happy with it. My best guess is that my carto (even on its second or third fill) is gooey, and that's the fault of the juices I seem to like. Sometimes the problem is fixed by popping a new carto on, but having just filled a 4 ml? I am too cheap to do that until I get what I can out of the old one. I like dripping fine, but it's a pain and I feel like I am working too hard for what I get. And cartridges feel the same way, only more of a hassle. I don't know if I am just being impatient or doing something wrong... but I feel like there is something else I can try. Sad thing is, among my friends who vape, I am the "veteran hand" - the others trying it out after seeing me with my Leo - so this forum has been a wealth of information for me. Especially considering how hard it is to find info for that middle ground between the guy with a starter kit and someone building their own box in their garage. Thanks for the advice - I ordered the Infinity Pro. Will see how it goes when it gets here. I did pick up one other thing from VapingZone - a Twin Coil Clearomizer - I have never seen one of those before, I figured it couldn't hurt to try. Anyone have any experience with them?

Looking at the site, they show "pre-punched cartomizers." I'm almost afraid to ask why I would punch a carto...

Interesting, and actually doable. I assume getting the 510 top is the best way to go? I am going to have to get some new cartomizers anyway. I am curious about all of the different things you can hook up to that. It would probably be quite dangerous if I understood how all of them worked

If it performs well, maybe up to $90-100 for a unit? Depending on the costs to get whatever replacement pieces on a regular basis...

I've tried the Boge Leo and that's about it. When I first went in to get the eGo I was steered towards the Leo instead. I'm game to give it a try, but I kind of want to make sure it performs well in the areas I like... if you know what I mean.

So I've been vaping for about 6 months now. After a disasterous start with a DSE-601 pipe, I picked up a Boge Leo and have been very happy with it. I switched to the LR dual-coil cartomizers, and liked those even better - though I don't really like how quickly they suck brand new batteries dry. I'm happy with my experience, but I think I am ready to brand out and try something else. I know enough to know that I prefer flavor and vapor (tons of vapor), and don't care all that much about throat hit. I like Boba's Bounty, so I want something that can handle VG well. I am also wondering about an alternative to cartomizers... it seems like I am having to replace them after just 2 or 3 fills, and that gets expensive. Does anyone have a suggestion for what I should try next?

Excellent advice. I caught them just now. Thanks. I didn't particularly like Hype to be honest. It was interesting... not the worst I have ever had, but I gave it away after dripping it a couple times. Not my thing.

I've been trying. I check the site every couple hours and try to order again, and the payment system is always "offline." It is starting to get frustrating. I understand they are only taking limited orders, but it would be nice to know a time they activate the payment system so I can make my order...

And back down again, I guess they met their order max for the day. Damn it, I sleep in one day... Decided to try something from sweet-vapes to hold me over, since I am almost out of Bobas. Will have to try again tomorrow!

I'm more talking about quality and variety than trying to mimick Bobas

Yikes indeed. I saw that message on there and decided to wait a few days to order, only now I am running really low. I usually stick to Bobas, but in a pinch I'll get some of their Banana Slurry or something like that. Are they still shipping? That message gives the impression that they are totally shut down. And Smotek is out as well. If Alien Visions is still shut down, anyone have any suggestions for a comparable alternative? Preferably somewhere I can get 6ml strength or lower?

I tell you, I am a smokestack here... I am still at that phase where my body is used to actually burning tobacco. I find myself dragging repeatedly, and have to force myself to slow it down... but it isn't because it isn't producing. One thing I haven't needed to do is wait... it seems to hit just fine. The rest - well, that's all subjective as you said! I won't argue if they are better or worse... that is a matter of taste to be sure.

Boy did that make a difference - I got a syringe, and it doesn't matter how thick the stuff is, it is harder to get it into the syringe than it is to fill the cartos now. the 100% VG works just fine. And the result is way better than it was before. I still like the atomizer, but the cartos are probably going to be my default now. I am now actively trying to empty the 4ml cartomizer... I want to see how long I can smoke it for before refilling (now that I am not wasting juice, I'd like to know how long it really lasts me). I loaded this one last night and it is still going. Very satisfied on that end, but I am starting to get sick of the banana....

Yeah, I did check that site out ... the price was steep for a "learner" I thought. better to spend what I did and figure all the ins and outs before plunking down that kind of cash. I ordered some 10/90 VG/PG, so we will see if that makes a difference. Trying a ton of different things, and it is getting expensive!

Well, I am still waiting on the new 601 to come - and have decided I am going to turn around and sell that thing as soon as it comes. So I was doing some research, and more research, and more ... and then started to think about making the order. I thought about it, and I realized I did not relish the prospect of waiting, especially since there has been so much of that so far dealing with the broken 601. I remembered seeing a post about a store in Laguna Beach called eCig City (I'm in Huntington Beach, just a half-hour up PCH), and decided to go up there. He had the eGo for a couple bucks cheaper, and I'd be saving on time and shipping, so why not? I went in and explained what I was looking for - the guy there (Jason I think?) was extremely helpful. After talking with him a bit, I ended up walking out with a Boge Leo. It was $20 cheaper than the eGo, and it had the bulk I liked. I bought an extra battery and a couple of cartomizers, and took it home - puffing on the horrible tobacco flavor the whole way that came with the unit. The taste wasn't my thing, but I liked everything else about it. I then tried to fill up one of the cartomizers. That didn't go well. The first time I have seen one of those things, and I didn't realize you can't just squirt it in there, I don't know if I ruined it or not, but most of the juice leaked out of the bottom and while I thought it was full, I guess it wasn't. A few puffs into it I got a burning taste, and adding more to it really only helped for a couple minutes. I dripped juice into another one a little more slowly, giving it time to absorb, and that one worked a LOT better. That took forever though - I don't know if that's normal, or if it's the VG I am using, but I read you are supposed to use a syringe - so I ordered one of those to see if it makes it easier. I have to admit - I am kind of torn. I am not sure I like the cartomizer better than the atomizer. The way the vapor tastes between the two is completely different - and I don't think it is in a god way. The former does put out more vapor I think, but the latter is smoother - more flavorful. I am not sure how to describe it, but I think I like the atomizer better. Going to smoke out the nasty tobacco flavor it came with and put in some stuff I like, and see how the regular atomizer is with that. Anyway, the thing is already performing better than the half-functional 601 I first got. After seeing some reviews, I am pretty convinced I just got a really bad unit (that, or I really have no idea what I am doing). Anyway - this works. now I need to order more juice... Thanks for the advice now to figure out my atty/carto dilemma.

I am curious about that "tank atomizer" model... anyone have experience with that one?

Price-wise, I am not horribly worried - I am most interested in vapor production, and would like something with a little more bulk than a normal ecig. I'm good at the sub $100 range for this one. The battery life isn't a huge concern, as long as I can have a couple on hand. As it was, the 601 came with 2, and one of them doesn't work at all. I ordered it from focalprice - going for value, but I realize that ordering from a Chinese company was a mistake. After some serious bitching, they agreed to send me another unit (without charging me, very nice), so assuming it arrives intact, I will likely just sell it. That whole deal is another story all together. So I do have a chance to recover some of what I spent on the pipe, so that's a plus. (Anyone interested? ) Regarding the cartomizers... I am still a little in the dark about those. Are they refillable? How expensive are they? How long do they usually last? I looked at the eGo, and saw some mixed reviews (saw something about a different gizmo you can attach to it to increase vapor production?)... the one I saw said something about a tank atomizer system. Is that as good as a cartomizer? Other question is about the juice ... I understand VG is the way to go, but I read something about the eGo that said you shouldn't use more than 30% VG in them. Is that correct? Thanks for all the help.

Same principle applies really - the guts are the same on both, the pipe is just bigger. At least, that's what I think. Problem I am seeing is that the principle behind the cartridge dripping into the atomizer doesn't really work as well with a pipe configuration. I am using VG - and I did buy a cheapo eCig from a smoke shop to test it out before spending the cash on the pipe. The same fluid in the pipe blew the ecig away in terms of vapor production. When the pipe works - it works and I love it. Just hoping for similar performance with something a little more consistent.

Thanks to everyone for the advice before - As I may have posted, I was a daily pipe smoker, and decided to try out the ecig as an alternative to cut back. I eventually settled on the DSE601 pipe, and ordered some juice from Alien Visions. Well, it's been about 2 weeks, and I both love and hate it. On the plus side - when the 601 works, it really works. I really enjoy the vapor it puts out when it is working well, and it is more than an adequate substitute for the old "analog" pipe. On the mixed side, I find I don't enjoy smoking my pipe as much as I did - the original plan was to smoke it once a week, but after one week setting it aside, something felt really off about it. I guess that is a good thing, but I really liked smoking a pipe, so I am not totally happy with that. It's a good mark for the vaporizer though. Unfortunately there are some drawbacks. The unit came with one bad battery, and the other one barely lasts three hours. Also, after a couple of days, I started to notice a real inconsistency with the vapor production. I thought there was a problem with the pipe itself - but I came to realize that the problem might be battery and cartridge related. I can't do anything about the former until the new ones come in the mail, but I have been experimenting with "mods" on the latter. I tried the "drill a tiny hole in the bottom of the cartridge" thing - and that works pretty well, but it ends up being really messy. I tried the "straw mod" - and that just floods my pipe with juice. I tried the blue foam mod - and that seems to work best of all, but I can't seem to get it just right. I either use too much or too little filler, and haven't got the balance right so that it gives good vapor without flooding the pipe. I've come to the realization that MAYBE the pipe isn't the best way to go. I got it originally because I liked pipe smoking, and thought this would make it easier to transition. Well - I guess it worked - I realized I liked vaping. But I don't like the frustration of this unit. So is the ePipe form over function? Are all vaporizers this difficult to work with? Or is there another kind that is less touchy that I would be happy with? My main requirement is that I want a lot of vapor. I don't care so much about "throat hit" since I stopped being an "inhaler" years ago when I quit cigarettes. I'm willing to sacrifice flavor, as long as I can get a good draw with a ton of vapor. Any suggestions?

Ha, I can only assume you are talking about this site - which I didn't realize was a store until I posted here. That does make me realize I might not get the best answer to the vendor question, though you never know! That does bring up another question I had - nicotine level. I noticed the lowest this site has is 16mg... I am wary of going too high, since I am not wild about a ton of nicotine. The other sites I have been to I was looking at a lower number. Just how strong is 16mg?

So I am a regular pipe smoker, and after seeing a friend's e-cig, I decided to give one of the pipes a try. I ordered one of the DME601 pipes from Focalpoint... So a couple questions: Does anyone know anything about that site? I leaped before I looked, so now I am just a little jittery. Second - I imagine I have to buy some liquid now to put into the thing. I looked around, and there were a ton of bad looking sites. I finally ordered some from e-cig.com, but then I read some bad stuff about that site, so I cancelled the order. Where is a good place to buy liquid? Also - as a pipe smoker, I plan on trying to find a flavor that matches that. I am curious about some of the other flavors - are the different flavors off-putting to people who like the taste of tobacco? I don't plan on quitting the pipe, but I do want to cut the real one down to a night or two a week. I currently smoke about every night for a couple hours (never during the day). Thanks!