TheGreen

Congrats Ed!!!

I gotta check out that Mantis ! Looks really sweet man! Congrats on everything!

Congratz on all 3

TWO YEARS!!! Incredible job. Keep up the good work.

Congrats! Was good to say you in chat yesterday.

Congratulations on the 100th video, the 2 years of being smoke free, and on the birth of your newest baby. Good job on all three!!

October's Winners!!!

This post is meant to let all of you in New York know that this is not even remotely close to being over. Even if it passes the Senate, it still is _not_ over.

Recently in Illinois we went through the same thing due to SB3174. However, the majority of the outcry against the bill didn't even take place until after it was passed by the Senate. Our bill had moved fairly fast, and this is the reason most people didn't even realize what had happened until it was already on it's way to the House. Yet in the end we were able to defeat the bill for the time being. S7234 is not as far along as ours was and therefore you have even more time to fight it than we had.

To give you an idea of what happened in Illinois I'll list the time line below. I am including the steps taken by the citizens of Illinois in protest of the bill as they happened.

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2/9/2010 Senate Filed with Secretary by Sen. Terry Link
2/9/2010 Senate First Reading
2/9/2010 Senate Referred to Assignments
2/24/2010 Senate Assigned to Public Health
2/24/2010 Senate Senate Committee Amendment No. 1 Filed with Secretary by Sen. Terry Link
2/24/2010 Senate Senate Committee Amendment No. 1 Referred to Assignments
3/2/2010 Senate Senate Committee Amendment No. 1 Assignments Refers to Public Health
3/2/2010 Senate Senate Committee Amendment No. 1 Adopted
3/3/2010 Senate Do Pass as Amended Public Health; 006-001-001
3/3/2010 Senate Placed on Calendar Order of 2nd Reading March 4, 2010
3/3/2010 Senate Added as Chief Co-Sponsor Sen. Jacqueline Y. Collins
3/4/2010 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Edward D. Maloney
3/4/2010 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Kwame Raoul
3/5/2010 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Ira I. Silverstein
3/5/2010 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. William Delgado
3/9/2010 Senate Second Reading
3/9/2010 Senate Placed on Calendar Order of 3rd Reading March 10, 2010
3/10/2010 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Martin A. Sandoval
3/10/2010 Senate Added as Chief Co-Sponsor Sen. Mattie Hunter
3/10/2010 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Louis S. Viverito
3/10/2010 Senate Third Reading - Passed; 049-004-000
3/11/2010 House Arrived in House
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It was at this point that most of the E-Cigarette users in Illinois had first heard of the bill. There were many here that may have thought it was too late at that point to even fight it. Letter's went out to representatives and authors of the bill from concerned Illinois citizens. And as was found later, letters of protest came in from people living in other states as well.

Further people were alerted after an article was run by the Chicago Tribune.

3/11/2010 House Chief House Sponsor Rep. Marlow H. Colvin
3/11/2010 House Placed on Calendar Order of First Reading
3/11/2010 House First Reading
3/11/2010 House Referred to Rules Committee
3/17/2010 House Added Alternate Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Eddie Washington
3/17/2010 House Added Alternate Co-Sponsor Rep. Joseph M. Lyons
3/17/2010 House Added Alternate Co-Sponsor Rep. Karen A. Yarbrough
3/22/2010 House Assigned to Human Services Committee
3/23/2010 House Added Alternate Co-Sponsor Rep. Naomi D. Jakobsson

On 4/14 a hearing was scheduled in Springfield. In a fairly impressive show of protest, Illinois E-Cigarette users attended the hearing and were given a chance to speak against the bills passage. It was noted that the officials at the hearing seemed to take what was being said to heart and perhaps even begin to question their own reasons for signing the bill in the first place.

The hearing ended with no final decision and a preliminary date for a follow up hearing was listed to take place on 4/21.

On 4/15 there was yet another update to the status of the bill as the chair of the Human Services Committee removed her name as a Co-Sponsor of SB3174.

4/15/2010 House Alternate Co-Sponsor Removed Rep. Naomi D. Jakobsson

The plan after this was to show for the following week's hearing in even greater number than the first. Surprisingly enough, it didn't even get that far as no notification was given that SB3174 would even be called on 4/21.

4/23/2010 House Rule 19(a) / Re-referred to Rules Committee

On the 23rd it was essentially dismissed from the current senate session as explained by Rule 19(a). And in the end a follow-up hearing wasn't even needed. It can pop up again if it is re-introduced in a future session but as of now we are keeping our fingers crossed.

Anyhow, I just thought those of you in New York would like to see how the same situation panned out here in Illinois. Even if just to give you a little more hope when it comes to your chances of defeating the bill.

On my end, I will be writing a letter or three as a concerned Illinois citizens in support of E-Cigarette users in New York.

I will preface this by stating that I do not live in or purchase from NY state. With that said, I am beyond disappointed and in complete disbelief that a room full of public representatives, whom are supposedly extremely well educated, would base a decision on something such as this on misrepresented lies manipulated to promote continued greed for taxpayer dollars. Do not be fooled by the way this vote was conducted. If the possibility of generating new tax revenues for NY would have been presented as a counterpoint to Linda B. Rosenthal's position, the nay votes would have been swayed quite easily. I also cannot believe that there was no comparison done to examine the legal position of state of CA and their handling of electronic cigarettes (personal vaporizers). Ms./Mrs. (I don't care) Rosenthal, please show me some data, some facts, SOMETHING!!! I do not support the kiosk sales and would never condone sales to minors either. However, I would not speak so freely without evidence to provide as to the contents or health ramifications of personal vaporizers. Congratulations to the elected sheep of NY for voting without any knowledge at all. It would seem to me that vapors will have to take up the fight to the FDA to produce factual data regarding personal vaporizers. I have no problem regulating them for purchase and consumption by adults only. Make them available through the same means as other regulated products, such as pharmaceuticals, tobacco, alcohol, etc. To stand there and say people are becoming addicted to cancer causing anti-freeze and promoting sales to children is ridiculous. Without any knowledge of the topic, most people in their right mind would vote against that (I would hope). Although she left the door open for NY to revoke the ban pending FDA approval, we all know without generating tax dollars for NY there is little or no chance of this ever happening. We also know that if the federal government does not generate tax revenue from these products, the position of the FDA will not change. If these so called protectors of the public gave a damn they would go after big tobacco first, and I don't mean let people smoke outside as long as we get our tax revenue from them killing themselves. Cigarettes in NY at $10 a pack generate a substantial amount of money for the state. Ms./Mrs. Rosenthal's position is clear, "WE ONLY CARE ABOUT SAVING LIVES IF WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY MONEY FOR IT!" I only hope we as a collective do not take this action lightly or quietly. They are supposed to work for us. I can only pray that other states will not be so foolish and so greedy as to make uninformed decisions with the impact that I fear we will witness in NY. If and when the ridiculous happens, I will continue to vape, with or without nic, on store bought vg, flavoring and mods, because I'm damn sure never going to buy another cigarette again.

Thank you,
Brian T. Cotterman

We're way late on this show...
This was the show that needed resurrected after some technical and scheduling problems. Vapefest talk, a very strange shout out, and more juice reviews.

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Obvious - 3/19. St. Joseph's day (my birthday as well).

This is exciting news!! I just know how busy you are Chris. As you take care of all the crybabies on this site you will be a find Daddy.

Nervous Dad + Anxious Mom = Beautiful Baby Makayla on 3/18 at 5:55a.m.

This is exciting for both of you and also for us. We've been with you since you announced the pregnancy and have watched the ultrasounds and read the updates. You're gonna be a great dad Chris.

I guess 3/12 @ 2:35 AM PST

Congratulations Christopher, We're all exited for you. Hope you got the room all ready . As for when...03/17/10 @10:57am!!!

First off, best wishes to you and Ashley. This is a thrilling occasion for you both I know.
Now my guess is March22 around 3:35 am pst.
Wish Ashley well for me and thanks again for all you do.
Hope I can get some time to get on the site while I'm away.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

Hi all,

I went to ecig24.net and they have 50ml of juice for $5.40. Has anyone used these yet? Are they any good? Should we worry about quality control of these products?

C Ya, TheGreen