mjradik

I saw a post on another forum about reports being made about nicotine sold by a US pharma vendor is many times stronger than the label states. A 100mg sample is said to have tested at 245mg strength. This means any resulting e-liquid made will be over double the expected strength. This may mean that 24mg liquid you make in good faith could actually be 60mg.

This doesn’t surprise me actually, because a few months ago, I bought 60mg NIC, and ended up being 100mg NIC. Not as big as difference, but still could be dangerous. Ever since then, I stress NIC testing because there are no true regulations that can prevent NIC juice being sold at too high, or too low of levels. Even a well trusted vendor can make a mistake, they are only human. (and the batch that was wrong for me was my regular well trusted vendor, which I ordered from before, and still order from. It was only a 1 time mistake in my case)

http://www.eliquidtest.com/Instructions.aspx is testing procedures with many tips, and recommendations. It’s better to be safe, and have piece of mind knowing exactly what you are vaping.

If you have any questions about the instructions, check out the FAQ page, or if your question isn’t listed there, post it here and I’ll help you out. I’ve been regularly testing all my DIY eliquid for several months now, and consider my self a pro, lol. Also, if you have you own personal story about bad eliquid or something, I’d like to hear about it.

Yea, I saw that a few months back... SOOOOO funny.. Wonder what the size of the PCC is? A dresser? lol.. Oh and I think they made a DCT tank system for it, its made out of a 5 gallon water jug.. haha

Yea, when I went form 12 to 8, I really starting to chain vape big time... Like 10ml a day. (I vaped like 3-4ml when I was at 12/18) For me it wasn't the TH, it was the nicontine I was chasing.

But when I dropped to 6 then 4 then 2 then 1, I was still only doing 10ml a day. I guess you can only vape so much in a given day...

However, now that I'm at 0, I don't think I'm doing 10ml a day now.. I tihnk I may be down to 5-7... hard to tell since I just started 0mg. But I do notice myself not reaching for the PV as much.. I guess if your body knows its not going to get any satisfaction, you don't have that urge....

I'll report back on 0mg nic progress in a few weeks, but I feel I'll be reaching for the PV less and less... argg... I don't want to quit vaping all together yet... lol...

i.e. IT.. (couldn't put IT in the title otherwise it would correct to "It" which doesn't look right.. lol)

Found this... SOOO true... So Funny.. Other IT guys can appricate...

In the vapor rooms defense, If the nic was too high, you would be able to tell with more harsh throat hitt, and in addition to head aches, if you vaped to much of the high nic, you would get chest pains too.

I know my wife gets head aches with any PG. She must use 100% VG dilluted with distilled water.

I'm not a tat guy, but I do have 2 from a looong time ago..... oohraah..

i.e. IT.. (couldn't put IT in the title otherwise it would correct to "It" which doesn't look right.. lol)

Found this... SOOO true... So Funny.. Other IT guys can appricate...

While you're siting back, and relaxing right now, while you're vaping... why don't you take a few minutes and learn chinese...

i.e. IT.. (couldn't put IT in the title otherwise it would correct to "It" which doesn't look right.. lol)

Found this... SOOO true... So Funny.. Other IT guys can appricate...

While you're siting back, and relaxing right now, while you're vaping... why don't you take a few minutes and learn chinese...

i.e. IT.. (couldn't put IT in the title otherwise it would correct to "It" which doesn't look right.. lol)

Found this... SOOO true... So Funny.. Other IT guys can appricate...

Woow Jeff... that made me jump back from my chair... lol... Welcome to the forum Monkey. I started off with the Ego-T almost 8 months ago, and was my first PV. I was happy with it. I use it for 2 months.. Then I switched over to cartos, then cartos Tanks... I still used the ego batteries though.. very good batts... I now use variable voltage mod, and other basic devices... Playing with toys is part of the fun.

I'm not a tat guy, but I do have 2 from a looong time ago..... oohraah..

I think hot pink might be avialable.... wish my wife was impressed with my size and potential... shes not... arggg... good thing I got her locked in with that ring... hahaha.. LOL...

Ohh... well I got one... I removed my windshield, and strapped it to the hood of my car and the mouth piece right next to my mouth.. I can vape while I'm driving no problem... How ever I am getting more bugs in my face... thats a draw back.

I’m surprised no one commented that it is not the cart or the amount alone, its mainly the strength of nicotine. General rule of thumb is that someone absorbs 1mg of nicotine per analog cigarette (even though an analog has about 8mg nicotine total, but most of that is lost through the burring process…. So your body only get 1mg out of the 8mg) and some studies put this number has high as 1.7mg per analog.

So if you’re a pack a day smoker, then you get 20mg of nicotine per day. Now lets equate that to mg/ml of ejuice…. If you vape 6mls (or 6x1ml carts) of 6mg nicotine ejuice per day, then you are vaping 36mg of nicotine per day, or equal to 36 analogs.

BUT, and this is a big BUT… Your body does not absorb 100% of the nicotine you are vaping. NO good studies have been done on this, and no one knows for sure how much nicotine your body absorbs. IN MY OPINION, based on my experience and ‘listening to my body’ I think you absorb 50-60% of the nicotine you vape. So that’s 36mg from above is really only equal to about 18 analogs, or almost a pack.

So to answer your question… how much does 1 cart equal to in analogs? Well what’s the strength of nicotine ejuice you are using?

1 ml cart of 24mg nice juice = roughly 12 analogs, or 2-3 drops =roughly 1 analog.
1 ml cart of 18mg nice juice = roughly 9 analogs, or 3-4 drops =roughly 1 analog.
1 ml cart of 12mg nice juice = roughly 6 analogs, or 5-6 drops =roughly 1 analog.
1 ml cart of 6mg nice juice = roughly 3 analogs, or 10-11 drops =roughly 1 analog.

…when I starting vaping 6 months ago (I was a 1.5/pack a day smoker), I vaped 3-4mls of 18mg nic juice. Now I’m vaping 6-8+mls of 2mg ejuice….. so as far as nicotine, I’m getting a lot less now… but my goal is to quit all together eventually… but I think I’m going to stick with 0mg nic for a long time at the end… lol…

Its real easy to calculate how much $$$ you save on quitting analogs by subtracting out the $$ you would spend on per pack. 6 months in, and for me its about $1,700. 1.5 packs a day times 180 days. In MD its costs about $6.35 per pack with tax. But I’m interested in any hidden savings people are getting as well.

Like for me, my daily work day morning ritual would consist of going to the local corner store, to buy my pack of cigs for the day, BUT I would always also get a cup of coffee and a ham, egg, and cheese breakfast sandwich. That’s $4-$5 right there. Now that I don’t smoke any more, I never go there any more. In the last 6 months, I think I’ve been there only 2 or 3 times…

Now in the mornings, since I don’t stop for cigs, I make my own coffee in the morning, and eat breakfast at home. So really in addition to the $1,700+ I saved on analogs, I also calculate I’ve saved an additional $500 in breakfast sandwich/coffee purchases.

Just wondering what other hidden savings people have…

Did you get them from a 'real dealer' or from like eBay or something. There are alot of horror stories about batteries being sold as new on ebay, but they are actually used/dead batteries with new stickers on them. If you got them from a reputable site, send them back and get replaced.

Well I did end up buying it that day. 1 GAL PG and 1 GAL VG... $48/free shipping. Come to find out, ALOT of other vapors use that same web site to buy that PG/VG because its cheep. Comes out to less than 20 cents per OZ. (less than a penny per ml) So its almost been 5 months, and I've used about 1/2 gallon of the PG and 1/8 gallon of the VG so far. People say PG/VG has a self life of 1-2 years, so I should be set for a while... lol..

Of course now that I'm vaping 2-3mg nic now, I vape 6+ mils a day.. (since it vape low strength nic, it only costs me less than 5 cents per mil for my DIY)

I only use DIY eliquid. Not for price, but because I'm a control freak, and I like knowing I control what I put in my body. I can easily control the nic content, flavor, stronger or weaker, and pg/vg mix. As with most people, I use around 80/20 pg/vg. That seems to be the most popular. However, I do think there is a big price savings. mcquin and most people pay about .50 per ml of ready to go liquid. I make my eliquid for under 5 cents per ml. Since I only make 4-8mg liquid, 95% of the cost is flavorings. Even if I made 24mg liquid, my cost would still be around 10 cents per ml. I vape around 6ml of 4mg nic per day, so thats around 180ml/month. So I save around $80/month doing DIY. Plus its fun, and you get to experiment. Yes you can make bad tasting batches, but cost is very low.

$40 for a gallon of PG is actually a little expensive. There is a supplier on ebay, and they also have thier own web site that sells 2 gallons of PG shipped for $50, or 1 gal of PG 1 gal of VG shipped for $50. Heres the link. http://www.essential...Glycerin/Detail


$75 for a liter of 48mg, isn't that bad actually. I know MFS its about $85, but use coupon code '40nic' to get 40% off. Thats vilid till December 21st I think. If this is your first time at DIY, I think you should get 24 or 36mg tops. http://www.myfreedom...juice-e-liquid/

Also, you'll need flavoring. I like TPA the Best. http://shop.perfumer...iy-flavors.aspx and some DIY supplies.

Make sure to use a good calculator. You don't want to accidently make very power stuff and hurt you self. http://www.todmuller...uice/ejuice.php or http://ejuice.breaktru.com/

Might want to think about a nicotine test kit too.

Key thing with DIY, you might screw stuff up at first, but stick with it, and you'll figure it out, and it will be come fun and save $$

Yes it will, BUT, the DIY test kits test the PH of the eliquid. If vendors use strong acids in thier flavors, then it lowers the PH, then makes the readings lower than actuall, or not register at all. The test is designed for unflavord nic, but MANY people have tested it with pre made eliquid, and only a select few have back as altered/low results. And no I don't have a list or know which ones. Normally fruit flavors I believe, if they use real citric acid.

I've been away from the fourms for a few days, and just saw this today. I received a mislabeled 60mg nic bottle 3+ months ago from a trusted supplier. (it actually tested to be 100mg) It was a one time mistake (from what I'm aware of) on thier part and hasen't happened since. However, I ever since then, I've been preaching DIY nicotine testing, because you never know...Better safe than sorry. Thats why I started www.eliquidtest.com. You know I was wondering what was up, when I average one or two sales a day for the past three months, and all of a sudden I got 50 orders in the past 2 days... lol... my stock was depleated instantly. I''' be restocked tomorrow though)

And its good to know that nic/juice suppliers that I've seen on this website buy the kit too. (however, shouldn't they have been doing more scientific/accurate testing in the first place?)

At least this one big bad incident will make the vaping community a safer and more self regulated place though going foward.

I've been away from the fourms for a few days, and just saw this today. I received a mislabeled 60mg nic bottle 3+ months ago from a trusted supplier. (it actually tested to be 100mg) It was a one time mistake (from what I'm aware of) on thier part and hasen't happened since. However, I ever since then, I've been preaching DIY nicotine testing, because you never know...Better safe than sorry. Thats why I started www.eliquidtest.com. You know I was wondering what was up, when I average one or two sales a day for the past three months, and all of a sudden I got 50 orders in the past 2 days... lol... my stock was depleated instantly. I''' be restocked tomorrow though)

And its good to know that nic/juice suppliers that I've seen on this website buy the kit too. (however, shouldn't they have been doing more scientific/accurate testing in the first place?)

At least this one big bad incident will make the vaping community a safer and more self regulated place though going foward.

I ordered a bunch of 1.7ohm Resurectors about a month ago, and have been eGo-T free since then, lol. (I was an avid eGo-T user for 2+ months) I still think the eGo-T is a good easy product, but with the right carto, its just a better vapor experience IMO. I do miss easily changing flavors with my T. Now I have a pile of like 20+ cartos all labeled with a different flavor, and find my self sticking with one flavor longer, which I don't like. but oh well.

Hey DAYVAPE!!! I'm a carto believer now, lol..