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You almost have it. You are associating ohms with flavor and watts with vapor. It's like comparing apples with oranges. Both are fruit, but they provide different flavors and different vitamins. Higher resistance (higher ohms) + lower wattage = more flavor (in a VERY general sense. There is MUCH more to it than coil resistance and the power you are using.) Lower resistance (lower ohms) + Higher wattage = more vapor (again, in a VERY general sense. There is more to producing vapor than just plopping in a .15 coil and cranking the watts up to 125.

@Christopher beat me to it (almost ). Those are Panasonic NCR18650B batteries. I have three words: Get New Batteries. Even with the 3400 mah (actually tested closer to 3200 mah) they are only rated by the company at something like 6.5 amps. They were tested closer to 4.9 amps. I personally wouldn't even use those batteries in the tactical flashlight on my AR-15. I recommend any of the batteries I mentioned in my initial response. There are others as well, but those batteries are all definitely good to go. After you get new batteries, either I or another member can give a better explanation of what would be a safe build with an unregulated mod.

All from the Vapor Talk Store: 2 Kanger Evods with 2 (5) packs of coils to vape it forward. (only $10 each and the coils $3.75 ea.) great way to help family and friends without breaking the bank, One's for a cousin and one will be held in reserve for my next victim 1 Kanger toptank nano to replace the one my neighbor decided he loved too much to give back (yay I FINALLY got him into a mod and tank instead of an ego pen after 6 months of trying) 1 SMOK Baby Beast to find out what all the hoopla is about and I couldn't beat the price in VT's moving sale price...

Tanks!!!!

I don't even have a deck to put my wound coils on but wrapped a few just to see how it works. Showed the wife all pleased with myself...she looks at em and is like wtf are those....jeeze woman can I get a sammich? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I still eat mud I suppose lol. I guess what I'm trying to wrap my head around is this. Same mod same battery same tank. Generally speaking .4 coil... I crank up wattage and I get more vapor and flavor seems to weaken. I like the vapo at 40 watts like the lung feel flavor is ok but I chain vape lung hits and it gets hot quick. Turn down watts not so hot but weaker vapor and flavor is ok...different but ok. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Another thing to consider when making juice is the use of distilled water. I use distilled water in some of my juices that are coil killers, and it helps a lot, about a year or so ago I tried some flavors that were water/alcohol based, and got a lot of spitback. I blamed it on the water, and as usual was wrong, the alcohol probably caused the spitback since the flavoring had 45% alcohol. Lately I have been using 10% distilled water in my coil killing juices with no spitback, and the coils last longer. I normally make 30PG/70VG juice with 20% flavoring, and 10% PG, the flavoring being PG brings the ratio up to 30% PG. Now I substitute water for the 10% PG. The water thins the juice more than PG, and water vaporizes at a lower temp than PG so it makes for a lower vape temp, and makes less throat hit. I don't recommend city tap water because it has chemicals in it, our water comes from a well but don't know what is in it so I get distilled water which is really cheap, less than $1 per gal.

Never fear, the apparent resident expert is here. (Those are other people's assertions, not mine. I just happen to love the TFV8 line of tanks and have done a lot of research on them). Before I go into detail with an answer to your questions, I'll start by saying that @DWrainbowvaper36basically hit the nail on the head that the biggest differences in coils are airflow. Honestly, the airflow differences between the coils are the biggest differences. Now, the more subtle differences in the coils have to do mostly with the actual number of coils in the assemblies. I'll break it down by the name of each coil for you: T8 coil: This is an octocoil (this means there are 8 distinct coils in the assembly). The T8 is rated at .15 ohms and can handle anywhere from 50W - 110W, depending on how warm or cool you prefer your vapor to be. With the octocoil you are going to get most likely get the most vapor. There is more surface are contacting the cotton and the higher wattage capability of this coil will vaporize more liquid as a result. However, due to the higher wattages necessary to run this coil in an effective range you are going to experience a faster drain on your batteries. T6 coil: This is a sextuple coil (6 distinct coils in the assembly). It is rated at .2 ohms and can handle anywhere from 40W - 130W, depending on how warm or cool you prefer your vapor to be. Contrary to what physics would tell us about the resistance and how many watts should be able to run through it, this coil can actually be run slightly higher than the T8 coils, thus producing a warmer vape. With the sextuple coil you are going to get vapor that is almost but not quite as prevalent as the octocoil. The flavor will be slightly better. The assembly is identical to that of the T8, so airflow is the same. X4 coil: This is a quadruple coil (4 distinct coils in the assembly). It is rated at .15 ohms and can handle anywhere from 30W - 70W, depending on how warm or cool you prefer your vapor. The housing is different than that of the T8/T6 housing and has less restrictive (more) airflow. If you like higher airflow then this particular housing is the way to go. With this coil you will get a nice balance between vapor and flavor, but if you are a mouth to lung vaper then it definitely isn't for you. (In fact, if you are MTL then the baby beast probably isn't for you anyway, although it is possible.) Q2 coil (both options): The Q2 coil is both unique and confusing. It comes is two different resistance variations, a .4 ohm dual coil and a .6 phm dual coil. The .4 ohm version is rated from 40W - 80W while the .6 ohm is rated from 30W - 50W. Both coils use the same housing as the X4 and have a lot of airflow. Flavor is, in my opinion, superior with these coils but vapor production tapers off considerably compared to the T8, T6 and X4. These will also produce a much cooler vape than the others mentioned so far. There are two new drop in coils coming out that will also be confusing, the M8 coils. This is another dual coil that is available in resistances .15 and .25 ohms. I would imagine these are probably going to be rated in the same range as the X4, but I cannot confirm that at this point. From pictures I have seen they also seem to use the same housing as the X4 and Q2 coils, so airflow will be high. RBA deck: The RBA deck for the Baby Beast comes with dual claptons pre-installed. The dual claptons are rated at .35 ohm resistance and can handle anywhere from 30-60 watts. The claptons will help with both vapor and flavor production because of the way they are constructed (more surface area and the "why" a clapton works better than a standard coil is an entirely different topic). After the claptons have run their course you can pretty much build whatever you want on it, which is nice because it means you can use nickel, titanium or stainless steel and use the Baby Beast on a TC mod (unless you have one of the very few mods on the market that will run kanthal in TC mode). To sum all of that information up, higher resistance will mean less vapor, but better flavor. Lower resistance will mean more vapor, but flavor will be sacrificed. However, as someone who has used the Baby Beast extensively, you really can't go wrong as far as flavor is concerned. If you have seen my video review of the tank, they should have called it the "Flavor Beast", because it really packs a punch where flavor is concerned no matter which coil you are using. You will have to make sure the mod you are using will fire down to .15 ohms, but most mods that have been introduced in the last couple of years will fire down that far. With the lower resistance/higher wattage combination you are going to be drawing more amps and the length of time your batteries last before needing to be charged will be less than with the higher resistance/lower wattage. You will also notice much more liquid being consumed with the lower resistance/higher wattage coils than with the higher resistance/lower wattage coils. Add in the fact the Baby Beast is only a 3ml tank and you will be refilling it often, even if you choose to go with the .6 ohm Q2 coil. Hope I cleared things up a little bit and didn't make anything any muddier than it was. Really the choice is going to be based on how much airflow you like, how warm or cool you prefer your vapor and the amount of vapor you want to produce.

The last piece of the puzzle. I have ordered my first batch of flavors. Blahahahahahaha

I figured out the best use for my Kanger 160w dripbox, and my aspire quad flex kit. After some modifications to the Aspire parts, like drilling a hole through the RTA adapter I have managed to build a squonk fed RTA. So now instead of having a RTA with a 2ml capacity I can refill the RTA tank by just squeezing the 7ml squonk bottle built into the mod. It may seem like a silly idea to some people, but I like it.

@Edna Nothing more satisfying than giving the gift of vaping and creating another ex-smoker

First Clapton build.

I have only used TFA never had an issue and I enjoy the flavors

In my unregulated mech mods I use authentic Sony VTC4s. The Panasonics go into my regulated mods.

Back a few years ago I ran those batteries in a Evic, and ran 1.8 coils in a KPT2. Never got above 10 watts which is a 2.4 amp drain, well within the 4.8 amp limit of the battery. I ran them because of the longer battery life.

@Tam at your 1.8 ohms you are fine because you aren't drawing many amps. Are you using them in regulated or unregulated mods? As @FXRich mentioned, the continuous discharge rate is very low. You can use a coil that is as low as .5 ohms, but not for very long. There will be considerable performance drop-off. Also, the OP mentioned they were given to him, so they likely weren't new and likely aren't performing at peak specs. Better safe than sorry in my opinion, especially when it comes to unregulated mech mods. I don't want to see another news story of an e-cig exploding because they are "dangerous" when it was probably user error due to a build too low for the batteries to handle safely. I don't even build lower than .5 ohms in my RDA's when I'm using them on my mechs mods with Samsung or LG batteries.

First Build! Sense Herakles RTA-2 Dual horizontal coil build @ .6ohm. Seven wraps 26ga SS @ 30mil dia. Clouds and Flavor @ 30@ on an Alien. Not as pretty as on YouTube, but the performance! Oh my. This is going to become habit forming.

Specifically what batteries are you using? Brand and model (for example LG HG2, Samsung 25R, Sony VTC5)?

The Baby Beast and the Big Baby do not come with RBA decks. The Cloud Beast comes with two coils (The large version of the T8 and the large version of the Q4. The new TFV12 Cloud Beast King will be available with two options: The tank and three different factory coils OR the tank and the RBA deck, but it won't be available with both the factory coils and the RBA deck. I'm sure you'll be able to purchase the RBA deck seperately, though.

@Edna TFA makes several cinnamon flavors... the Cinnamon ACL is like red-hots if you mix it more than 5% and is alcohol based. It mixes well, and is really good. Their Cinnamon Concentrate is more the flavor you'd find in a bakery flavor. Their Cinnamon PG is like the Red Hot ACL, but based 100% in PG (no alcohol)... and doesn't mix with some flavors, as well as the alcohol version... but is more candy flavor unless you are only adding 1-2%,.. then it is a "hint" or background flavor. Another trick to Cinnamon I use is to add a touch of Raspberry to it... I'm not sure why, but it really brings out the Cinnamon flavor without feeling so "candy"

Mix a little mint and cinnamon with a tea flavor, maybe add a little vanilla. the only thing I can think of.

I have been using a cinnamon flavor from TFA that's pretty good, but if you use more than 3% it gets a little hot almost like cinnamon hotties.

@Adversarius1 Well put as always! thank you! Did the baby beast come with the RBA deck? or, did you have to order it?

Have you been vaping painkillers? Been powdering them up and adding them to your juice?

Insane, maniacal laughter... Thank you VT store! Record time! Seven rolls of SS, two of which are clapton. Let there be clouds!!!!

What I'm trying to say in the end I get a juice that is 20%PG/70%VG/10%water, but not always because I don't always use 20% flavor. When I mix my coffee juice I only use 8% coffee and end up with 8%PG/10%water/82%VG, which makes it about the same thickness as 30PG/70VG. Sometimes I'm not very good at explaining things, hope I didn't confuse you more.

Yep, I re-use them for my mixes too... I don't have many flavors in 8oz bottles, but those that I use the most... I really should start stocking them in liters, lol.

I do the same thing with flavors I like a lot buy the bigger bottels

When I first started making juice I ordered 30ml bottles, didn't take long to figure out I needed to order 4oz bottles. Some flavors like butterscotch, strawberry, vanilla custard, and some other flavors I order in 8oz bottles. I reuse flavor bottles to make juices. I rarely make 30ml batches anymore mostly just for trial batches.

Thank you @Edna Flavor time!

And you are doing a great job of keeping everyone here in the loop. Per above, you are already providing a save sensible manufacturing environment. When a person has to provide a photocopy of their driver's license to purchase a dropper bottle from one site because it is vape related while the same bottle on another site requires no proof of anything other than payment, there is a real problem with someone's thought process.

A quick thank you to all who commented. Followed suggestions and was much firmer with using the 3mil rod to hold the coil while building. My second build looks just like the pretty pictures on YouTube and man does it perform! Even at the .6ohm build that I used it is AMAZING!!!! Thanks again!!!