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For what it's worth, you can go quite a bit higher with the watts in temp control mode. For the most part, in TC mode the watts help the coil get to the desired temp. That is likely why you have a better experience at 40 watts and 580 degrees compared to 25 watts and 600 degrees. Depending on how long your draws are, it's entirely possible that the coil isn't reaching your dialed in temp preference when set at 25 watts. In fact, if you are taking hits that are only a couple of seconds in length, you may not actually be hitting the 580 degrees with 40 watts. I have been working on a TC guide that I hope will be better than most of the other "guides" I have seen on the internet, because none of the guides clearly explains how wattage plays a role in temp control. The main problem I am having is that I want it to be "generic" in nature, but there are so many TC chips out there it's almost impossible to include enough information for everybody to find it useful. Heck, even I have 5 TC mods running three different chips and every single one of them operates differently from each other.

The beast looks good on it. Did they change the battery door on that? I have an older silver one and don't like the big sliding door. But it's a good mod. Come to think, maybe it's the D2 I have. I like that they're small and they fit the hand well.

OK, if you're happy with it there then I recommend leaving it there. Personally, I would ramp the watts back up to between 30 and 35 if for no other reason than to get to that temp of 440 degrees a bit quicker. It shouldn't have a negative effect on your vaping, it will only hit that desired temp faster. It will also help if you decide you want a warmer vape with a different juice. You can leave the watts set and bump the temp up a bit.

Just some info, unless they have changed it, the istick 40 does not allow wattage changes in tc. It runs at 40 watts all the time. The only adjustment in tc is the temp

The crown2 on the rx200,I had the wattage set at 35.5,I downed the temp to 480 I ended up at 440 at 13.9 watts when I took a peek.I will keep you posted . you were right,once I got close to the right temp,it automatically dialed down the wattage .

Awesome! Specifically which mod did you take my advice on? The rx200 with the crown 2 or the istick with the nautilus mini? Also, what did you end up setting the watts at and what temp did you end up with. (Bear with me, all of my questions will eventually come to an end with some possible suggestions for you or anybody else who cares to follow those suggestions.)

Yes absolutely , I am running a crown 2 .5 stainless coil on an rx200,also the crown mini .25 stainless coil on the rx200.for my nautilus mini,I run the .15 ni200 on an istick 40 watt tc.I have yet to try the triton mini ni200,but when I do I will let you know the resistance.and fyi,you are so right,took your advice,vaping happily!!when I break into my .5 stainless on my crown mini will let you know.

@Foofightervapegirl, Out of curiosity, can you let me know exactly what setup you have for Temp Control? Mod, tank and coil resistance, please. EDIT: Also coil material (nickel, titanium or SS).

@Adversarious1 i guess i was confused a bit.not used to fixed wattage fixed temp mod yet.all I know is I don't vape above 40 watts if I can help it.but I'm going to take your advice for sure!!!and you are absolutely correct about the different materials,I actually prefer nickel to stainless,I know this because vaping on my istick 40 watt tc that only runs nickel in temp mode,it gets warmer way faster to me at least.

That's sort of what I was trying to explain. In your instance the wattage is affecting the "cooler" vs. "warmer" vape because you aren't using enough power to even get to the 600 degrees you are setting the temp at. In other words, if you want a cooler vape in TC mode you should be dialing back the temperature, not the watts. If you want a warmer vape, then bump up the temperature, not the watts. Essentially the higher the watts, the faster your coil will hit your desired temperature. Once it hits that temperature the chip in the mod will (theoretically) dial back the wattage automatically to maintain the temperature. Once you set your wattage you shouldn't have to touch it unless it hits the temperature too fast or not fast enough for your personal liking. Ramping the wattage up or down versus the temperature to achieve the cooler or warmer vape completely defeats the purpose of temp control. This is true, but for a basic understanding of the correlation between the power setting and the desired temperature the different materials available play a very small role. The overall performance of those materials at various temperatures is another story altogether, though.

I didn't even know they made .5 ohm kanthal coils for the crown. Even Uwell's site says all of their .5 ohm Crown coils (v1 and v2) are SS316L. For what it's worth, though, you aren't likely going to notice kanthal coils sucking less juice than TC coils. If anything, because of the stability of temperature control you are going to go through less juice with the SS coils. @smacksy is absolutely correct. SS can be vaped in both power and TC. It's the single biggest reason I am slowly (but surely) converting all of my coils to to stainless (both DIY coils and drop-in coils where available). Now...if only SMOK would get with it and start making drop in SS coils for the TFV8 I'd be one happy camper.

You're absolutely right, it's not an easy task and why I don't even mess with TC...all I want is to vape, get my nic hit without the added hassels of using TC..The end does not justify the means, least for me anyway Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

...not to mention, the different materials seem to have slight performance variations as well. I would applaud any efforts to simplify and codify TC in a guideline. It's not an easy task.

You do know you can run the crown stainless coil in power (watts) mode too, right? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Yeah, they did change the batt door..other than that it's exactly like the D2 but now 80w.. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Just picked up this 80w IPVD3 at my local shop (fires down to .15 ohms) for $30 thx to black Friday sales... Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I'm going to plug your thread, in CASE you happen to want to try the nugget, we've got a black friday sale going on and it's only 26 bucks https://www.vaportalk.com/us/product/authentic-artery-nugget-copper/

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