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Where to find true stainless kanger coils?
jasonculp and one other reacted to Earthling789 for a topic
The red seals (and older white ones) are Nichrome. Pink designates 316L SS, and the outside of the case is stamped "SS" For convenience, you can refer to the following chart (I think SS has more than one resistance available now, so the chart may need updating?): NAME OF COIL WIRE MATERIAL COLOR OF SEALS AVAILABLE RESISTANCE WRITING ON COIL MODE NiCr Nichrome Red 0.15, 0.5, 1.2, 1.5 NC Wattage Ni200 Nickel Blue 0.15 Ni Temperature SUS316 Stainless Steel Pink 0.5 SS Temperature/Wattage Clapton Kanthal Black 0.5 Clapton Wattage Oh, and to clarify... SSOCC stands for Stainless Steel Organic Cotton Coil... the SS portion of the name denotes the CASING is Stainless Steel, not the wire which makes the coil... Coil type is denoted by seal (o-ring) color and case-stamp.2 points -
Understanding the FDA August 8th, 2016 Regulations
Tam and one other reacted to Christopher for a topic
You know to be perfectly honestly with you, I don't think this is all on big tobacco. I think there are many that want to point the blame but in fact Alteria recently spoke out against the PMTA guidelines. (Who knows though that could just be a PR spin) What I suspect is the FDA probably has a big hand in this on their own. Flexing their new found muscle if you will. But I'd say this is as much on so called big tobacco as it is some of the bigger vape players. I might get some flak for this, but the big ecig names aren't going to be affected by this. Let me re-phrase that, the board members running the large corporate run ecig ventures are looking at this a different way: If they make it through PMTA and companies like NJOY and BLU have the resources to do so (Remember Blu is owned by Lorillard aka Newport/Camel) and all the little guys in this wild west market finally drop out, it's a de facto monopoly. They'll make their money back. There's a huge market out there that hasn't switched and if the only option is say NJOY or Blu (respectively) they'll probably make the switch. (After all if they've never tried any of the devices we've used, they won't know the difference anyway.) Just wait for a decade to pass by and new vapers won't recall or even know any of this happened. Thing is, there's a ton of arm chair vapers "up in arms" about this. But there are few, as with most changes in this country, that'll actually go out and do something about it. Sure we've got the big Youtubers/Podcasters/Cassa etc but those guys can only do so much. (and respect to all of them for their efforts) But It's really a power by numbers and the numbers generally rely on these few organizations as their voice. The vaping market is a billion dollar industry these days, that money comes from a whole lotta people. If those people took to march in front of the FDA/Congress or went old school Boston Tea Party mode, I'd imagine **** would hit the fan and we'd get something done. But, everyone's busy, there's a new XBOX game coming out and complacency remiss is probably the country's new motto. The most common comment I usually read on different forums is "well I've been stocking up, I'm good" and that's that. (Edit: I should note it's 4am PST. I tend to type aloud if you will so my opinions could be totally off base, but I don't pre PR my posts to the disappointment of the VT marketing guy )2 points -
Understanding the FDA August 8th, 2016 Regulations
Edna and one other reacted to Christopher for a topic
All good questions. You basically nailed it on the head. Those planning to stay and those who believe they'll pass PMTA are likely going to speak it fairly loud. If not simply for the fact it proves they managed to somehow get through the PMTA process which I can assure you is stringent. Those not willing to stick around will probably stay quiet for fear they'll lose customers. On the flip side, some companies we've got wind are going through PMTA are staying quiet about it. (These are the really big guys. There is no official step by step but they're using some more traditional methods to get a head start. They've got huge budgets) The main reason is that anyone who can obtain PMTA has a major marketing advantage, so, they really don't want to offer up any sort of support clues to the smaller guys on how to make it through the process. (The larger players). What this has really done is ensured big players, especially those backed by big tobacco obtain a de facto monopoly in the US. I've always had a feeling it'd likely go this way. Kill the competition through legality and regulation. Companies like NJOY, Blue, etc are all very likely to move forward without much issue. They've been building up resources for years with huge supply lines. I'd imagine that some of the larger liquid companies who saved or invested their money are likely to stick around. But without knowing how much some of these guys made it's hard to say. For hardware companies like Kanger Tech & Aspire are planning to push through the PMTA process. Their biggest concern is that because they are Chinese based that the FDA won't work with them. Most however are eager, willing and financially capable of making it through all of this. For us personally, we're not 100% sure at the moment. (Thus why there's a lot of focus on Vapor Talk Asia and Vapor Talk Europe, which is a shame because those are potential jobs forced away from here..) We've got our products already our for testing and we've started the pre application phase. We're still mulling some things through with our investors but Vapor Talk's Black Line alone could cost 6 million USD to push through PMTA - with no guarantee it'll pass. And it's only 5 flavors! the 6th being reserved for outside markets. (Prince of Jazz) If our application fails, we pay and repeat until the FDA gives us the greenlight. 3 runs could cost upwards of 18 million dollars. Incredible. If you want to stay up to date on who is going and who is staying I'd suggest just staying on the forum. (ECF is another good source of info) I took a back seat role for a few years but these days I've hit the ground running and staying pretty well up to date. I'll start up video/podcasts shortly and will do my best to keep everyone here in the loop on whatever I managed to find out. Roger's in Beijing and usually keeps me up to speed on how little China is progressing with the FDA.2 points -
Understanding the FDA August 8th, 2016 Regulations
Christopher reacted to spydre for a topic
I know the states sued Big Tobacco and won - enough that for Phillip Morris to appeal in IL, they had to place a bond of 10% of the verdict, which nearly bankrupted them. Each state got a block grant from the tobacco settlement, to be used for various things. I didn't know Big Tobacco sued.1 point -
I'm confused. The red ones are stainless steel and are marked by Kanger as such. I just bought a few boxes at sweet vapes. They are called "ssocc" and come in a variety of resistances. vaportalk has them but only in .2 and .5 ohm right now..1 point
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Bump Everytime You Buy Something New
jasonculp reacted to Earthling789 for a topic
Just ordered another Wismec Presa 75W TC, two more 50W Subbox kits (in black), five 5-packs of 1.6 Ohm BVC for the SO's Nautilus tanks, and a couple silicone sleeves for my IPV minis (they're looking pretty bad with paint fade and scratches). Next paycheck will be a couple liters of 100mg/ml Nicotine...1 point -
Understanding the FDA August 8th, 2016 Regulations
Christopher reacted to spydre for a topic
I know there is a March planned in, I think, Michigan tomorrow - but considering it's not at the FDA, it's not really saying much. Is it true that the IRS is counting unsold inventory as income rather than inventory now? At least that's what that large shop/wholesaler said. But I'm not sure they've incorporated, either, which is bad news. They may end up losing a mint over this, and if it's not incorporated? It all falls on them, not a corporation. They have their own line, but not the resources to submit every flavor, every nic level.1 point -
Chris Is there any way to find out which companies will stay in the game and which ones will be leaving us? Will e-cig manufacturers or distributors make it publicly known if they intend to continue? Seems to me those intending to stay would announce it forthrightly while those not planning to stay will tend to be silent and just off load. Do you know who the major players are for both juice and hardware? How can the average current consumer find out or stay apprised of these types of things? Or can they?1 point
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FDA Regulations Explained - Updated Thread
spydre reacted to Christopher for a topic
Not yet though the changes will start to kick in. It's taken me almost this entire time to wrap my head around the coming regulations. (Our legal time drafted up a summery for us finally) I'll likely created a podcast in the next week or so explaining the entire process that takes place between now and 2019. (I'll upload it to the Youtube channel and here once complete) Give me just a moment and I'll whip up a new post breaking down what everyone can expect (It'll take me ten minutes)1 point