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I have been doing DIY for about 1 1/2 years now, maybe longer, I know what's in it and if it don't come out the way I planned I got nobody to blame but myself. (you can blame the muffin man) When I do get a batch that doesn't taste right I try to fix it or vape it anyway. You will probably experiment with flavors like I did, and still am, some good some not so good, but that's what makes it interesting.

Cut it with my favorite vanilla juice....tastes just like good n plentys....

I've looked at the HG2 as well... but haven't tried any of them. I figure as more of my older batteries reach retirement, I'll try something newer/better, and the HG2 are at the top of my list. I've been running 25R's almost exclusively since January, and so far have only lost two of them (probably older stock?), and still have 10 running strong. My VTC4's have been work-horses for more than a year, but I've retired them to use only in my Cloupor's where they will see lower Wattage demands, and hopefully will last even longer that way? Even though they are only 2100mAh, they still last nearly 2-days in my Cloupor's (running 8.5-12W avg).

I have really loved my 25R's. My first 2 batches that I bought are starting to get a little weak. I have PIF a few, but I don't feel like it is best thing to do, so as I replace them, I will recycle them. I recycled my last set of VTC3's, but all of my VTC4's are still running good (they are all married). I think I am going to start replacing my 25R's, HE2's, and HE4's with HG2's and possibly 30Q's. I can tell a noticeable difference in how long they last. The HG2 preforms nearly as good (Total Amperage) as the 25R but lasts longer. I am also going to try out the 30Q's. They are only rated at 15A, but tests about like a 20A battery. Since I only vape at 40 watts I should be ok because that is only 14 A. ((40/3.2)*1.1) I have a pair on order, I will post my very unscientific findings as soon as I try them out.

Got ya what ya think of the d4 version of that charger

I was thinking about getting a UM10 for the car, got 2 power ports in front seat 2 more in the back seat and 1 in the very back, figured I could use one during trips.

If they sell supplies for CPAP machines, they should, but I can't guarantee all of them will carry 18650's, or what brand they will have, if they do. I may have gotten lucky that my local store carried LG's... But, yes, it won't hurt to ask

I've bought my last 10 Samsung from Amazon, and had zero failures or issues with them. One of the 5 I bought from the local B&M has died (would not take a charge) after 6-months or so. The Samsungs bought from Amazon came from two different sellers (both with thousands of reviews, and 99% positive), and all were PRIME shipped. The Walgreen's I spotted the LG's at had a card on the wall saying 18650 back-up batteries for the CPAP machines were behind the counter. I had to get them from the pharmacist, I presume to prevent shoplifting of such a small item? Both were individually boxed, and two came boxed together with a date-stamp on the outer box. I've only used them once so far (each), and they are working exactly the same as my Samsungs... so I call it a win!

Awesome! Thanks for the recommendations guys! At under 30 bucks for the charger and a couple of batteries, it seems like a no-brainer. I like the auto-detect feature on that charger. Probably because I have no idea what kind of battery is in there now, aside from the size, which is kind of scary, come to think of it. The shop I bought it from rewrapped it to match my mod, and never mentioned the brand. I'll have to stop over there and ask them what the heck they gave me.

I don't have a huge problem with them being taxed but states that pass laws making it illegal to vape (or smoke for that matter) in open outside areas are places I do not care to visit. You could not get me to move to NY or Cali if you quadrupled my salary and gave me 3 months off a year.

1k times liked what Tam just said..... however I do a lot of buying off of trusted sellers on ebay.. I hardly every buy anything that I want if a seller has 100 different paints & a bunch of clothes that looks like he just cabbaged up on a GoodWill dumpster.. ALWAYS RESEARCH who your buying from, if you have a good feeling about them then buy,, its always BUYER BEWARE.....

If interested, I'm always willing to do some writing. I have a blog but would be more than happy to contribute as much as I can...I know I'm not the most experienced or number crunching guy that might attract your more experienced used but I also believe those just starting out would like a friendly voice in the wild. I would like to see more zines/papers reach out to the noob and just starting out crowd for which I would be willing to help. Obviously, it being your paper and your baby...I'm willing to work with you, obviously, to create what you want. And anything I submit would be subject to your advice and editorial input.

And you beat me to it.

This would be so terrifying!!! I have heard stories of mods blowing up, but I haven't seen a video of it before! I will never buy this model! Ahhhh!

That is definitely a turn off, i think to lots of newbies. A few weeks before i started vaping i went into a local shop to look around and when i opened the door it was worse than walking in a Smokey bar. It was a dense cloud everywhere and had an unpleasant odour. Talking with the owner i asked him how busy they had been. He said not busy at all, just him and his brother most of the morning. It was a total turnoff. I figured what would the purpose of quitting cigarettes would be if that was what vaping was like. I eventually came around by reading some more online and have ordered all my stuff online. I really have no desire to go into a local store

That was an amazing video I cant believe how much power is in there and how long it took to finally blow , scary stuff

I cannot speak as to the tact you used to convey your message but this specific post I couldn't agree with more. I see cloud chasing competitions and all the pushing the limits of equipment overall as the biggest single threat to our continued freedom to vape as we want. It's a lot of the reason I post so much less than I used to because it's all you see anymore and instead of complain I abstain lol. And I mean no insult by anything I said toward anyone but it's just how I feel and in no way directed at anyone. Right now we have our right to vape and you can do it any way you want but that could change quickly and things like competitions and cloud chasing highlight the small % of Vapers out there and take the focus off quitting smoking cigarettes imo.

OK, So I had an opinion and I expressed it. All the left is going to remember are two things, cloud blowing competition and accident. You all can ma-line that all you want. You all can attack me for just stating the fact that something is dangerous to the point it could easily be used against the community`s freedoms. Have a great Vape day.

Joe, you make a good argument for freedom of expression, I get it. And I personally wont give up one once of liberty for added security, I get it. What I`m really trying to convey is that your argument will never hold any water whatsoever with the anti vaping establishment that has already formed around us. It may be different in Bama, Maybe you don`t pay attention to the rest of the union. But here in California, we are fighting for our rights with every once of reason we have. In New York, they want to ban all ecigs period. You would be breaking the law if found vaping in public. This aint my tin foil hat talking, this is the reality in New York. Try advertising a cloud comp in the city of NY, see how many do gooders you get to come out and shut you down. In Iowa, absolutely no ecig juices or anything ecig is allowed to be sold on line, I cant buy a damn thing from Iowa. Your can argue passion all want, but you cant argue the facts as they are right now. You have a good set of facts, almost no one blows themselves up. But every now and again, someone goes kaboom. You can argue with every once of passion that I am dead wrong, and every now and again, someone will prove me right. I would be willing to bet the average vaper has absolutely no interest in these competitions, and can understand logic when its put fourth reasonably. But let natural selection take its course, of course. :?)

Ok, this is getting out of hand.

http://vapordigest.com/vape-show-attendees-remain-calm-despite-possible-tragedy/ Heres a link to an article about it. I couldn't find video. But I saw the after math it was about worse case scenario as far as mod failing hole in floor and ceiling.

If this doesn't scare u into using your mod RDAs and batteries right, I don't know what will.

Banana will overpower most flavors. I usually only add about 3 drops to a 10ml batch otherwise its too much. I have also noticed that too much flavor doesn't necessarily ruin the juice, what will though is when you are not calculating the ratio of the juice to your PG/VG content. However, a good tip to remember is.... sometimes less is more.

Banana and some dark Chocolate are ones I have found so far. Anise will as well.

Vodka is like pledge lol. Cleans it all up

Not sure if my taste buds are revolting or I'm doing something wrong. Been playing with DIY for a short while and sometimes my mixes are ok, sometimes not so much. Which brings me to the question I have been pondering ....... is there a point at which a flavor starts "going backwards" and the finished juice mix just tastes crummy? Lately my mixes have not been tasting as good as I remember - or think they should, but people around me say the odor of the flavor is quite noticeable, and some who I allow to sample my vape, such as mixes blended with Black Cherry, Chocolate, Tosted Marshmallow, say the taste is there, sometimes to the point of being too much for them, but I can hardly taste it. I'm beginning to think it's me getting familair with the flavor to the point where my taste buds ignore it and I need to change directions for a while. I'm mixing at 20% flavor so before I go bumping up the flavor ratio I would like some guidance from some of the more experienced DIYer's.

LMAO!

Be careful with that coffee mix, it can gunk up your coil fast and burn it out.

If you like coffee type flavors I highly recommend Flavour arts coffee espresso...a little goes a long way. It has become one of my staple flavors....mix with tiramisu, apple pie, cinnamon/carmel (cinnamon roll). http://www.ecigexpress.com/coffee-espresso-by-flavourart-select-size-620.html I have tried many coffee flavors, and this one just seems to be the closest. not to mention its a clear flavor...some of the coffees are very dark.

How do you save this to your toolbar? Are you using FireFox? Essential Depot has the VG and the PG by the gallon, on sale right now, if anyone's interested. The prices will go up 20% with their next batches. http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-Propylene-Glycol/Categories

Great info I've been thinking about DIY and after all these great posts I'm definitely going to give it a try.

Question 1. Yes, you can use different types of flavoring but not all are going to give good results. Most of the flavorings I use contain artificial and/or natural flavors, PG and not much else but sometimes contain small amounts of water, alcohol, and so on. There are some ingredients that are un-friendly to attys and cartos but I can't give you a complete list off the top of my head; for instance you shouldn't use any anything that contains sugar or honey. Most of the flavorings I use (Lorann's, FlavourArt, Cappellas, FlavorWest, Perfumers Apprentic, CK products, Tasty Puffs) are fairly strong and sometimes very strong and it depends on the flavor. A very strong flavor might only need 2%-5% in the final mix but most fall into 15%-20% range. If a flavor requires more than 25% to flavor a DIY recipe it probably is diluted to the point where it is no good for vaping. Question 2. There are flavors that add sweetness without changing the original flavor much or sometimes enhance it. Cotton candy and Marshmallow are 2 examples. Ethol Maltol(EM) is the ingredient in cotton candy and it is what a lot of us use. I've also used suclarose. I know to use these in small amounts because too much will ruin a recipe. VG may add a bit of sweetness along with more vapor, this is why I like to use some in all my juice but I prefer mostly PG. Question 3. You can get a better TH by using a bit of menthol flavoring. As for extracting your own nicotine, well that sounds like tricky business and I don't think it can be done safely without proper testing equipment and knowledge. I've extracted a tea and tobacco flavoring by heating leaves in PG but I wasn't trying to extract nicotine and I don't think that I got much if any out but I was able to get a diluted flavoring that was usable.

Hi, I have 3 questions for my DIY attempt: Question 1: Do any of you know the TYPE of flavorings which you guys use for DIY Eliquid? I'm using flavoring for bakery. Is that ok? The flavor somehow "taste" diluted, no matter the percentage of volume I use. I know most of you refer to flavorings by brand name, Lorann ..etc. But are those branded flavors for bakery too? Question 2 Most commercial Eliquids have a bit of sweet taste to it. Mine is pretty bland and tasteless. I used some Sorbitol and Stevia as sweeteners but still not enough. Question 3: Throat Hit (TH). I know most people say it's from nicotine and some say it's from PG. My DIY Eliquid has no TH at all. Some pointers? IN my country, ordering nicotine is totally illegal. I extract nicotine directly from tobacco by boiling etc etc.... Please help. I'm getting really frustrated with my DIY attempt . Thank you in advance.

I also use 30% on apple pie. and a drop of cinnamon and sometimes a little of something else. This is the only flavor I go that high on and it is one of my favs too. I've been meaning to get Tiramiso but I keep forgeting to add that one.

Flavourart apple pie tastes great and I use over 20% of the total volume of the mix. Flavourart dark vapure needs only about 2%. Many Lorranne flavors are really strong also but they all vary from flavor to flavor. Most tobacco flavors are really strong. One that isn't and tastes real good to me is Flavorwest cumarin pipe which I use at 20%..

Update: Just want to add a couple newer vendors that have a very nice selection and great service. http://www.ecigexpress.com/ http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/products/The-Flavor-Apprentice-Professional-Flavors.html Merry Mixing

DIY still remains my passion and obsession. Common sense always has to prevail. The last 2 1/2 years have brought so many changes.....its worse than computer technology (for me anyway). Currently I still stick to those vendors I have been using since (almost) the beginning of my vaping adventure. When I first started vaping, the selection and vendors was very simple and very few, now, new stuff is popping up at every corner. I figure, I might as well stick with what works for me. I still love mixing almost as much as I love vaping.

Thats awesome! i cant wait to start. im new to vaping well about 5 days new. Ive ordered enough e-juice to last about 4 months. but when i start something i want to know everything about it. im a research hound and a big DIY guy sort of speek. i know there has to be a cheaper and easier way to do this. the instructions are gold and i cant wait to start. thanks for the great info!

+1

does anyone know how I would go about making a cigar flavor?

A mixing calculator is helpful. Here's one. Here's another. And one more. The last one is useful on a iPod Touch or iPhone only. I'm sure there is an Android version of something similar. Good luck and happy mixing and vaping!

Sticked

Thanks MaryAnn. I've got that on my list! I haven't done much mixing lately....haven't had the time, plus bought the full sampler from VT! Have to vape that down before I splurge again Hope to see you soon! B!

You do! Any juice will do... honestly. Like she said... it doesn't make it "menthol juice"... just adds a perfect little kick. Trust the QUEEN. EDIT: I thought you meant you didn't have a juice to add any to. My bad.

Now everyone can see why I've been calling you the "Queen" of mixing. Our resident "mixologist". This is great information Kitsune a really great post. Anyone who is interested in mixing will do wonders if they just pay attention. I for one am grateful to you for your help and information. A big +1 Keep up the good work.

Fantastic Kitsune!!! I only wish I had something worthwhile to add to this.

"With the menthol--using just 1-2 drops/3ml will give a nice cool throat hit without tasting like menthol." I cannot stress this tip enough!! I literally do this with every single juice I mix up... or for another option, I will add it to pre-mixed e-juice that I have already bought from a supplier that's just sitting in my stash of "ok" juices. (this will often times make them great to vape!) AND, to kick all of this up a notch... I will often times use cinnamon concentrate in the same exact fashion! Great tips Kits!! +1 !!

Thank you !!! If you see anything that needs to be clarified, changed or added please speak up...... I find DIY fun and would love input from others, success or failures, tips and tricks.

FlavourArt: Food Flavoring. Very wide selection of flavorings. Not as concentrated as Lorann, but has a wider variety of flavoring and less artificial coloring. Variety of Tobacco flavorings. Freedomsmokeusa and liberty flights both carry a very good selection of FlavourArt flavorings. Freedomsmokeusa :Liberty-Flights Decadent Vapors/Totally Wicked: The Decadent vapor line is produced in the UK. Decadent Vapors There are other products and suppliers out there. These are just the ones I use most often and am familiar with. Schilling and Mccormick flavorings will also work--they are just not as concentrated.