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Sorry, Cesar... I gotta disagree. Buying a cheap starter kit may seem like saving money, but cheap is usually poor quality and poor performance - think gas-station vape-pens. These things will almost always discourage a new vaper and send them running back to analogs. A good starter kit with reliable batteries (Kanger, Vision, Joye) and replaceable-coil clearomizers work far better... and usually only cost a few dollars more than the cheap-o, no-name, garbage. There is also nothing wrong with your "starter" set-up to be intermediate gear. I often recommend KPT2's, Aerotanks, iSticks, Kbox-minis, and other "intermediate/advanced" equipment to new vapers. Nothing is written in stone that you MUST start vaping with an eGo 650mAh and a Ce4 disposable tank! Also, smokers are always drawn to tobacco flavors as new vapers, because it is a mental-thing to think you need/want "tobacco", but in my experience (and listening to a lot of vapers), the vast majority will agree that finding a good fruit or bakery flavor (not a tobacco flavor) is what kept them vaping and away from analogs. There are exceptions, sure, but they are very low percentages. One of my ADV's has a small amount of Cuban Cigar flavor in it, but the main flavor is fruit/sweet (the cigar flavor adds the right amount of spice to compliment the fruity flavor, and does not add the nasty tobacco flavor at all). Vaping works as a smoking cessation tool because it satisfies the hand-to-mouth action, provides a mouth/lung filling vapor, provides a "visual" of vapor on exhale (that reminds the eyes of our former smoking), provides a flavor that we like (to keep us vaping), and finally... provides Nicotine to our body which reduces the withdrawal that quitting cold-turkey or using ineffective gums or patches provides!

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Just put in a new order to VapeNW. Mad Hatter RDACool Fire IV 4Diagonal Pliers by YoudeDigital Ohmmeter & Voltmeter Ohm ReaderSpool of Kanthal Wire at 30awgOrganic Japanese Cotton

Ok my thoughts. Keep away from the garbage starter kits. For the cost of 2 cartons of cigarettes you could buy a Starter kit with: 2 Vision Spinner 2 1600mah batteries 2 Tanks (I prefer Aspire Davides or Kanger Pro Tanks without the Aero base but only use the single coils I will not buy any tank that will not use single coils) 1 Charger and wall adapter (I would buy an extra for $10-$12) Case Then as far as liquids go you will have to experiment. I actually agree with one thing Cesar said. I would probably not been successful had I not found a tobacco flavor that did a good enough job of mimicking an analog. For me that was Sweet-Vapes Traditional Tobacco. Most vapers I know started that way BUT at the 3-6 month time frame when their tastebuds started to heal the taste of tobacco starts to be a turn off and then they start exploring other flavors. I went from 80pg-20vg 24mg Tobacco to a Max VG Strawberry Lemonade blend in 18mg that I still use exclusively today. My wife from day 1 has used 24mg 80pg-20vg ECBlends Peppermint and only recently dropped to 18mg. I see us both being at 18mg the rest of the time we vape. As far as suppliers go I use 3 only and have never gotten anything but great service!: Equipment: sweet-vapes.com Liquids: fuzionvapor.com and ecblendsflavors.com

You'd be surprised how rugged and long-lasting Innokin battery products are... My MVP 2.0 which was bought 15 months ago is still going strong, and the battery still holds out for roughly two or three days of vaping... I loaned it to a friend a few weeks ago, and she used it from Wednesday night to Saturday morning. It never went to the yellow light while she was using it. When you do upgrade to a different style of battery, that Itazte-134 will make an excellent backup!

Locally, Kanthal (and all wire) is way too expensive, and the cheapest place I've found wire that isn't taking a slow-boat from China is on Amazon. The last spools I bought were 100+ foot spools, and the most expensive one I've purchased was $6 (shipped free) from Lightning Vapes. The cheapest was ~ $3 for 30 and 32ga, also from Lightning Vapes. If you shop on Amazon, you should give them a look for your wire. Oh, and Selena/Labo brand Organic Japanese cotton is $7 for a HUGE bag, and it is just as good as any of the big-name-brand pads... Comp proved that in his side-by-side comparison tests! I've had my bag for a year now, and barely made a dent in it, even after giving away dozens of pads to friends I know $20-30 is hard to come-by sometimes... especially these days... but getting several 100' spools of Kanthal and a big bag of good cotton for that $20-30 will keep you in coils and wicks for the next couple of years...

I have to disagree with you, too, Cesar, and agree with Earthling. All too often we see new members on the forum come in dissatisfied with their gear, its performance, the lack of being able to get off the analogs due to "cheap gear". We never recommend it here, not if they're to successfully get off cigarettes anyway. For myself and most of the people I've helped stop smoking in my town, we prefer any flavor other than tobacco. Now that I think about it, all of those who didn't use the tobacco flavors are now off cigarettes entirely. The one person who vapes the tobacco still smokes a few cigarettes here and there and can't put them down.

A little out of the (Incredibly low) price range right now. Check to check, at the moment. Had to pick up a $15 120ml... I'll get back up there eventually. I've been running the same build for almost a month because I can't even budget wire at this point.

Aspire Triton from Kidney Puncher came in today with two boxes of 1.8 ohm coils. OMG. I'm in love...

Hey, we can help spend his money wisely even if he only has a small budget.

Good I'm glad to hear it. Please stop break things ;) (kidding)

If he has a large enough budget people here will be more than happy telling him what to buy.

The subtank is a good tank, and I run my Nano and Mini with 1.2 and 1.5 Ohm coils. I also build the RBA deck in the same range. If you like your Aerotank mini, perhaps you'd like the standard-size Aerotank. I have both styles, V1 and V2, and love both of them! I use them with my Cloupor Minis and my IPV minis, and they would run very well with an iStick 50W or the Kbox-mini, too (as well as your i-134, with added beauty-ring). I would suggest you upgrade to a VW box-style mod... either one that has a self-contained battery like the iStick 50W (huge power reserve), MVP 20W, 3.0, etc., or make the move onto a replaceable battery device like the IPV, Cloupor, Kbox minis, etc.... just be sure to purchase a good Nitecore or Efest charger and VERY good batteries, like Samsung 25r, LG HE2, or purple Efests!

Dripping is terrific. I love it. However, it is limited (for me). I cannot drip all day, nor do I want to. So if you start dripping, realize that you are likely to want another set up that performs well, is portable and trouble free anyway. Take a look at how you vape the most and upgrade that, then get yourself an RDA and learn how to do it and have fun.