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Jon I am sorry to hear of your passing you will be missed around here. I can't imagine what you are going through and the amount of red tape required to prove that you are alive. I have heard stories about it, but never experienced it first hand. I had a friend years ago that purposely and somehow legally gave up his social security number. He had sued the IRS after an audit and won. He proved in court that he had been overpaying for 30+ years in his business and that he was targeted because of his extremist beliefs (extreme right wing, anti-govenment, and a dooms day prepper type) A few years later he was amazed at how hard life could be without a social security number, even though (supposedly) it can only legally be used by the government, for social security purposes (at least that was the law back then. He even had a copy of the original law that states it is illegal for any non-government entity to ask for it*, tucked in his wallet) he was extremely successful in his business, and by most standards wealthy. He was killed in a Crop Dusting accident, and his wife had a very hard time collecting his assets, insurance, etc due to the lack of SS number... *it is not illegal to ask, it was legal for you to refuse to provide it

I thought that would intrigue alert readers. Yes, I've died. That is if you are inclined to believe everything the Social Security Admin tells you. It began this way. The second Wednesday of May, was the day my Social Security retirement benefit was supposed to be deposited in my Bank of America account. Nothing happened, and initially I thought nothing about it as there are 12 hours difference between time here and Eastern Standard Time, so I just figured it was off by some hours. Then as time went by and still no deposit, I checked my B of A accounts and OMG everything was empty. Checking, savings, CDs credit cards, all gone! Sheesh! So I called (of course) and was told that the SSA had informed them that I had indeed died. I of course informed them that the weren't talking to Casper, and they asked a bunch of personal questions that I answered correctly and thus my accounts were magically restored. Resurrection! And it took Jesus 3 days, yet I did it only a few hours and 7 ringgit in phone calls. He must have had to meet with a committee. (This experience has given me a lifetime of one liners) Then the bubble burst. I died again and now after many weeks and many many phone calls to SSA, B of A, the United States embassys in Kuala Lumpur, and Manila where SSA Southeast Asia is located, and everyone else who would listen, my bank accounts are re restored, credit cards working, but so far no retirement payment. Still waiting on the SSA who like most government agencies move at the speed of snail. Now to the original subject. I thought you would like to know that my vaping habits, supplies and equipment didn't change one bit during my death. It must be comforting to know that vaping is infinite, everlasting. To quote Mark Twain, "I was dead a long time before I was born, and it didn't inconvenience me at all." I'll leave you with a few thoughts. This gives new meaning to the little kid curse of "Drop dead twice!" I can now be a proper gwailo. Gwailo is a Chinese word meaning "ghost man" which I am frequently called here in Malaysia. A warning to all. Your social security number is tied to almost everything you do in life in reference to employment, banking, education, licensing, retirement and who knows what. I'm about to find out if it affects my passport as I try to go on holiday in Thailand next month. If your social security number is declared dead, you might not even know unless someone, as in my case, an as yet unknown third party notifies your bank, or employer or some other interested party. Cheers! the late Jon

Zombies exist !!! I knew it !!!!.......Vaping Zombies....

Just bought me a Kanger Subox Mini Kit White.

​ To my knowledge, it would only apply to juice, as they want to make juice listed as a "tobacco product"... but give them time and they'll "try" to tax the hardware, too.

When cigarette taxes decline they have to replace them with something else, and vaping is a growing industry which makes us victims of the state crime family.

​Like you said a Black Market will come of it. Is what it is I guess. I don't get the Government at all. First they tax the crap out of Regular Smokes. Then they make Tobacco company's put warnings on how bad smokes are and they can kill you. Then they launch campaigns quit smoking & let us help you stop smoking etc.. Then some outside sources do the same and follow suit. So do some large drug companies. Now that we stopped smoking like they preached in the first place, now they are like oh **** where is our large tax dollar revenue stream, we are losing all of our money from smokers who made the change to vaping. lol Government, politicians, elected officials are supposed to listen to what the people want, not make up there own minds on what they want. I can promise nobody that vapes said hey lets tax this, and nobody that smokes said hey lets tax vaping, maybe a couple board fools, but other then that there is a louder noise from us saying do not tax this, do not classify this the same as smoking tobacco. Do they listen to the people? NOPE. They listen to big business, the drug company that is losing billions on people quitting by not using there drugs, big business like the tobacco company that wants to level the playing field, hey vaping should cost what smoking does they yell. Government is big business itself. The wasteful spending, the wars nobody wanted, the big taxes on the little guys. If you think about it for to long it makes your head spin. It even hurts worse when it is realized we cant do anything about it. It was the same with online poker, the government destroyed it, while other governments regulated it in a fair way.

Why do you think Juice company's and us that use vapor do not want these laws with taxes to pass? Some states don't even want flavors they just want tobacco& Menthol. Some of these laws and taxes will kill the small sized juice business

I found this at: http://www.atr.org/sites/default/files/assets/ECIgTaxThreats2015.png