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Okay, I'll step back onto my soap-box.... That's the problem... politicians "expect" that money to be rolling in, and they spend it years before it actually shows up (and rarely does these days because over half the country is unemployed or under-employed). The tobacco settlements were supposed to go for "public health initiatives", but our politicians have played the shell-game and spent 80-90% of the expected money on other things... because it was never about "public health", it was about the MONEY... now they are panicked because people are doing what they wanted them to do... stop smoking... and now their cash-cow of sin-taxes and settlement checks is dying.... and states are poised to default on loans, bonds, and other unpaid projects. Politicians want vaping to be classified as "tobacco products" so they can get a win-win... 1) sin-taxes on the e-liquids and gear, and 2) by classifying vaping as a tobacco product, they can hold Big Tobacco hostage by forcing them to pay-up even more on the settlement agreement. Big Tobacco is forced to push more money to the states this way... which is why they (as an Oligopoly, a legal monopoly) are strong-arming politicians to pass laws to outlaw vaping or at least pass the sunset clause to make all vaping gear but THEIR e-cigs illegal... then they can have the lion's share of the market (to make-up for their losses in analog sales, and provide what the states "expect" them to pay, per settlement agreements). It doesn't take a Master's Degree in Economics to figure this crap out! And, I'm sick and tired of our government spending money they don't have (and then raising taxes or creating new taxes to cover their over-spending). It's a never-ending cycle! Now, if you or I write a check for a $200,000 home (without any money in the bank) and try to use the excuse that "Well, I've got a plan to hit the lottery, so the money will be there in a few weeks"... and see how that flies! But, this is exactly what our government is doing DAILY! I am 100% against any sin-taxes on e-cigs, e-liquid, or hardware. I am 100% against any politician who pushes for such laws or taxes. Politicians like the one in the video should be out of a job tomorrow, IMO! Big Tobacco is threatened by vaping. I say let them be threatened... let the free-market run them out of business, or at least reduce them to a minor force in the economy. But this is not going to happen until "We The People" stand up for our rights and our freedoms... reduce the economic strangle-hold our government has on us... and return our country to the free-market society that allowed us to prosper decades ago. Our government/politicians need to be required to take a few Economics courses... then they'd realize that lower taxes (and fewer things taxed/regulated) will evolve a stronger economy (more jobs, more sales, better salaries), which will in turn provide more raw-dollars flowing into the economy, and thus into the government coffers. Basic math is a strange concept to our government... I would much rather have 1% of $1M, rather than 75% of $10,000! We cannot keep this pace of tax/spend any longer! Pretty soon the only ones with jobs in this country will be government employees... and without US to provide their income, how will they get paid?? Vaping -vs- Big Tobacco is bringing the disparity and hypocrisy of our government's spending policies to light, and we must win! If we don't win this battle, then the war is lost for everyone (not just vapers).... [steps off soapbox]

I didnt have an ipod or a playstation or a psp....i had a stick! And on a good day a roll of caps and a rock!...kids today are too spoiled and pampered...i miss the good old days

It's not true, the average IQ in the US is not slowly going down. From what I see in basic skills test scores, it's happening very quickly.

Thanks Adversarious1! I said something a while back to a co-worker... and I think it's relevant in this thread... Vaping is to Big Tobacco as the bicycle is to the Big-3 Auto-makers... yeah, think about that... The bicycle is a less harmful mode of transportation, but it is not a threat to the Big-3 because not enough people are trading cars for bikes... BUT, if they DID? Politicians would be in a panic... no more gasoline taxes, no more registration fees and taxes, no more property taxes... auto sales would be through the floor, politicians wouldn't be getting their kick-backs and lobby money... Suddenly, there would be a huge push to impose higher taxes on bicycles, registration of bicycles, licensing of bicycles, odometers on bicycles (so they could tax you on the miles), charging for parking of bicycles, fees for transfer-of-ownership of bicycles.... It may not happen in the US, but it has (to some degree) in other countries... bicycles, scooters, motorcycles... all are a threat to the economic wealth (for state/local/federal governments), and the moment they cut into those profits... taxes, fees, regulation goes into effect! It's NEVER about public health, or the health of the individual, or individual choice... it's always... ALWAYS... about the MONEY! A few years ago, vaping was considered a "fad"... a small niche market... but now that more and more people are dropping analogs in favor of vaping, we've peed in the Cheerios of Big Tobacco AND government... which is why we're the target we are today. If everyone in the country parked their car, never bought a new one, and decided to ride a bicycle every day... you better believe bicycles would be produced by Ford, GM, and Chrysler, and they'd have huge fees/taxes/registrations, we'd have to have a bicycle license, and the newest 2-wheeler from Ford would likely cost $8,000 (because it would come with gov't mandated seat-belt and air-bags, a 6-speaker JBL stereo, and back-up camera (as an option, of course)! Huffy and Schwinn would be pushed out of the market because they'd not meet new "safety standards"... It gripes my rear-end knowing that my neighbor over-paid for a Prius and gets a gov't pat-on-the-back in the way of tax incentives for getting 40mpg in their hybrid... yet I ride a motorcycle that produces less pollution (smaller engine), causes less damage to road surfaces, and gets 50% more MPG! Where's my tax incentive?? Oh, that's right... it's not an AUTO...

I'll vote for you Earthling! And don't worry, I won't believe a thing they say about you just before they damn you to oblivion...

No not right now IMO. It's not my personal feeling that cloud contests and vaping as a sport is dumb it's the perception it perpetuates in the public eye. It's like when people in Colorado were fighting for legalization of cannabis. The media did not talk about the doctors and businessmen and women lined up the first day it was the twenty something living in his dad's basement with dreads and a knit cap sitting in the park looking like, well a loser. When the media reports on vaping and they show someone sitting on a park bench blowing huge clouds or show a cloud chasing competition they do not show me, the average vaper that has used basic equipment to keep off analogs for two years. Vaping for sport WILL play almost as big a hand in us being regulated heavily as big tobaccos influence. And all the while shops, websites and forums seem happy to advance this culture instead of pointing out that we may be our own worst enemy. There are really only 3 or 4 sub forums I even am active on here anymore because the "cloud chasing culture" annoys me. I have been saying the same thing this article points out for at least a year and a half and most disagreed. Now there are articles from experts saying the same thing and I would hazard to guess the cloud chasing sub ohm will still be 90% of the posts. I am for anyone to do as they please but when it can have an adverse affect on my freedom I speak up. Just remember when you are grabbing a $8 cig alike as your only choice to ask yourself is vaping for sport was a good idea.

Ever think about running for office? You are the kind of people this country needs... and I'm not even going to insult you by calling you a "politician".

Next up Fadors flavored Water Custom flavored to your liking by the one and only Comp

Seasoned drum sticks tonight

The little Japanese beetles use to POP nice lol

Love the 100w plus. My "daily driver". Currently equipped with an Arctic at .2 ohms.

Got my first BB gun when I was 8. While my friends were busy playing house with the creepy looking barbie dolls, I was out target shooting instead. It kept me amused for hours on end.

a pack of matches and plastic green soldier toys kept me entertained

Sorry, sadly only one vote. I'm not a US citizen, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be out there getting other people to vote for you.

And don't forget... a kid walking down the street with a baseball bat over his shoulder is considered a "disturbed child with a lethal weapon" these days, when 30-yrs ago, he was just on his way to/from baseball practice or the pick-up game in the vacant field....

Priuses just piss me off in general.

Red Rover, Buck Buck, dodge ball... all activities that are now labeled as being too dangerous. We called them "fun."

I'm just wondering can't the vaping culture be all of those things hobby sport and a healthy alternative to smoking. I mean why limit something that seems to have no limitations. We need to show what can be done instead of what can't.

I ordered one of my favorite Stout/Porters for my Kegorator Im waiting to tap it to try with the PFPB :thumbup:

Plenty of room, Tam. Plenty.....

The Tiger Wire is kinda difficult to work with, but totally worth it. I torch mine after I coil them. Then put them back on the screw driver and tighten, squeeze, and repeat a few times. Then when you put it on and dryburn it...it tries to uncoil. (It is the different wires doing different things when heated). I then do the 5 click turn off. Put the screwdriver back in adjust, turn it back on...repeat a few times. (make sure to shut off your mod when you put the screwdriver through the coil...don't ask) Then wick. If my coil is about 2.5 mm, I cut close to 5 mm of cotton and twist it though. It isn't easy without messing up the coil. I use a pick to adjust the coils that get a little out of whack. I then use dragongunner's method to thin the tails with a needle/pick and trim so it is just touching the deck. I know this sounds like a lot of trouble, but it is so worth it. I vaped it for a week with no leaks, no dry hits, and excelent flavor. At the end of the week I cut the cotton, pull it out and dry burn, rewick and I am ready to go another week.

I just thought hydra bones water... I poured in all of my hydra bones into a bottle of water. It tastes weird. I am starting to feel funny. What is going on here? I dont feel well at all all of the sudden... Just kidding... Not that dumb

Yep, I've found that if I build my Russians to 1.3-1.4 Ohm, they are at their best performance! I can only imagine the SubTank 1.2 Ohm coils are a very similar experience...

Is there room on the wall for my head too?

Buy her some Kool-aid packets... they're much cheaper

I think I figured it out

Oh damm Tug Toffee sounds good I went with Butterscotch

About to pour me a brandy on the rocks and Vape on some toffee flavored juice

Good Evening Everyone...... Just got home from work Poured a Stout,now deciding what too vape