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People compare it to fast cars or big guns or anything else we can hurt ourselves with BUT one has to be 18 and have a license to own a car and 16 and pass tests to even get behind the wheel. With guns there are background checks and age restrictions enforced. But anyone can walk into Joe Blow Vape shop where some dumb teenager can show em how "cool" it is to blow clouds and sell them anything they want. It should be regulated 100% and if it were up to me sub ohming and cloud chasing would fade away and put the focus back on vaping as a smoking cessation technique. I tried to take my 20 year old into my local shop last week and she has never vaped but quit smoking when she found out she was pregnant. She wanted some 0 nic because she was craving so I took her there and watched as they tried to sell her a RTA and Mod and all sorts of stuff before I stepped in and let them know she has all the hardware she needed. Even she walked out saying how foggy it was and how her eyes burned from the vapor as the tasting bar guy blows huge clouds from a .18 ohm coil he said anyway. I have grown to seriously dislike the local vaping community and if imam being completely honest I fear for the future of vaping as we know it because of stupidity and immaturity making people push gear to their limits.

Happy birthday tug

Happy Birthday...

I guess now we know why we arent just blowing smoke when we emphasize safety around here....

Wait....somebody didn't follow directions and blew themselves up!? Shocking!....

I only drip 3mg -6mg

I have been saying this for a while and still think sub ohming and cloud chasing are second only to big tobacco money in terms to being threats to our right to vape. Personally it drives me kind of nuts.

Tam; I am in total agreement with you ... Tobeco is on my do not purchase list. EHPRO and Infinite are my preferred clone. If you like air flow, try the freak show authentic is under 30 bucks i believe. It is an authentic but its not made in the USA, it is made in China. I have it and am very happy with it. I will say i have been eyeing the Dark Horse myself.

I read a while back on one of Tug's post that you would cough up a lung with too much nicotine... I had to try it,,, yup he's right I tried my 21mg & was praying that I wouldnt see my insides on the floor... I'd start out low & build your way up to suit your needs...

We're all willing to teach if you're willing to learn. Ask lots of questions, engage in discussions. If you don't learn anything else, learn this: SAFETY FIRST! Always do lots of research and then, learn how to do it right so you're safe at all times.

Welcome. He is/was a new vaper who didn't do much/any research before getting an advanced unit. It was his first mod that he didn't do any research on before buying. He also didn't know Ohm's Law, didn't learn it first, just wanted big clouds (probably). It was recommended by the employee who probably didn't know Ohm's Law, didn't do his research, and was just looking for a sale and found one.

^^^What Tam said...

Congratulations!!!!!! It's a biggie! Going on 2 years myself. Amazing isn't it? I was one of those smokers who couldn't imagine life without cigarettes. In fact I didn't think it would be worth living without. Now ..... Wow! This forum and the folks here were and are a big part of my success too.

I can't think of any build that doesn't use a ton of juice, it's just the nature of dripping.

Yep, I saw it the same way the commenter did. Mechanical mod + Wrong battery + Resistance of the coil too low for the battery = BOOM! Like you said, Earthling, natural selection at its finest. This is precisely why we go on and on about safety! Learn Ohm's Law. Only use the proper (genuine brand name) batteries for the application. Know what the hell you're doing before you become a statistic. Clouds are not worth the hospital bills.

I watched that "news story" twice, paying special attention to the battery fragments... and it looks a LOT like an Ultrafire! Tam, the commenter you copied is spot-on... failure to properly use a product is the fault of the idiot user, no-one else! I'd love to spend an hour ranting over the poor "journalism" of this piece, but I have to comment... the man was NOT SMOKING IN BED, he was vaping!! The fact he was using an improper battery and did not have his device "tuned" properly is not even newsworthy... but never let the media miss an opportunity to let a good crisis go to waste, as this ONE instance (and the brief mention of a 17yr old last summer had one explode on him... oh, wow, two instances of stupidity in the past 8-10 months?) obviously means that all "e-mod-cigarettes" (their words) should be banned, or regulated, or perhaps the government should just issue licenses to use them? Or require fire-suits? Or make it a $1,000,000,000 fine if you're caught "smoking one in bed", lol?

The only trades I've made, so far... Back last summer, I traded my two KPT2-minis (and $10) to a guy for two brand-new KPT2's... he wanted smaller for his Spinners It's not necessarily a trade, but more of a reciprocation... TugBoat recently sent me his Orchid V4 because he wasn't a fan... and I'm sending him a hand-built vape-stand to hold his Spinners and keep a few tanks organized.

I found this interesting. According to a comment found here: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/03/09/e-cigarette-explosion-burns-oc-mans-face-and-sets-fire-to-bed/#comments Handsome, Wealthy and Black • 14 hours ago First of all lets ignore the image of the LG HE4 battery on the left as it's irrelevant, it clearly wasn't the battery he was using otherwise it wouldn't appear unscathed - also it is the correct battery for the device he was using, and this wouldn't have happened had he been using it. The device is a 4nine mechanical mod and the tank on top is an aspire atlantis. The battery remains appears to be either a red efest IMR, an AW IMR, or even worse, an ultrafire ICR. Mechanical mod - a device with no inbuilt circuitry, the current drawn from the battery depends entirely on the resistance of the coil, which completes the circuit. ALL SELLERS OF THESE ITEMS INCLUDING THE SELLER OF THIS DEVICE CLEARLY STATES ONLINE AND IN STORE THESE DEVICES ARE FOR ADVANCED USERS ONLY WITH BATTERY SAFETY KNOWLEDGE, AND FAMILIAR WITH THE OHM'S LAW. Red Efest 18650 Battery - low amp rating, NOT DESIGNED FOR COILS BELOW 1OHM LIKE IN THE ATLANTIS. Due to the internal chemistry these batteries will vent gas and not explode if shorted AW 18650 Battery (old version) - low amp rating, NOT DESIGNED FOR COILS BELOW 1OHM LIKE IN THE ATLANTIS. Due to the internal chemistry these batteries will vent gas and not explode if shorted Ultrafire 18650 Battery - low amp rating, known for poor quality and faulty built in protection circuits, NOT FOR USE IN ECIGARETTE DEVICES! The batteries internal chemistry can explode if shorted. 1 MORE TIME, NOT FOR USE IN ECIGARETTE DEVICES!!! This is user error plain and simple. This person chose to ignore all caution warnings given, he chose to use a tank on a ecigarette device it was NOT designed for, and was using the WRONG TYPE OF BATTERY, he chose to do things in such a way that makes it clear he knows nothing about ohm's law, battery safety, and has no common sense to follow clear warnings - would a manufacturer or reseller of power tools be liable if I chose to operate an item in the manner they specifically warned me NOT to do, and injured myself as a result? If you tell someone don't run by the pool as it's slippery and they do it anyway and hurt themselves, who is at fault?? Come on World - especially America, get some common sense

I know we have a members classified, do we have a trading post for members to swap or trade.

I'll start it off... last Thurs I swapped a guy a Vamo V-8 in Carbon Fiber for a but it gets better, I went on my lunch break ta vape shop & the sack had in it,, not just 1 ZNA but 2... We both still feel good about the deal & I feel REAL GOOD...