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Finger print magnet. It's an all new color! Lol

I saw a post on another forum about reports being made about nicotine sold by a US pharma vendor is many times stronger than the label states. A 100mg sample is said to have tested at 245mg strength. This means any resulting e-liquid made will be over double the expected strength. This may mean that 24mg liquid you make in good faith could actually be 60mg. This doesn’t surprise me actually, because a few months ago, I bought 60mg NIC, and ended up being 100mg NIC. Not as big as difference, but still could be dangerous. Ever since then, I stress NIC testing because there are no true regulations that can prevent NIC juice being sold at too high, or too low of levels. Even a well trusted vendor can make a mistake, they are only human. (and the batch that was wrong for me was my regular well trusted vendor, which I ordered from before, and still order from. It was only a 1 time mistake in my case) http://www.eliquidtest.com/Instructions.aspx is testing procedures with many tips, and recommendations. It’s better to be safe, and have piece of mind knowing exactly what you are vaping. If you have any questions about the instructions, check out the FAQ page, or if your question isn’t listed there, post it here and I’ll help you out. I’ve been regularly testing all my DIY eliquid for several months now, and consider my self a pro, lol. Also, if you have you own personal story about bad eliquid or something, I’d like to hear about it.

Sounds like another saab story.

I always wanted one

Really wish he'd release an out take video, should be interesting.

2 more left til i have the whole collection

That's our Tam for yeah. Sarcasm at it's finest.

Must be made in partnership with Ikea... They give you "almost" all the parts to assemble that wobbly cabinet

Oh, my OCD is kicking in... You're lucky you're not local to me... or I'd be following you around with a polishing cloth On a side-note... I've not over-stressed over the patina build-up on my Copper and Brass MODs... that is until right now... must... resist... urge... to ... polish...

Nice to have you back.

yall didn't call me link master for nothing lol

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http://www.wholesalevapingsupply.com/kayfun-replacement-screw-pack.html

I have been vaping so long I forget that others haven't had time to learn yet. LOL I'm just an old dog forgetting what it was like to be new at this. I can blame it on age right? LMAO

I'm able to crank the voltage all the way up on the spinner 2 with my Nautilus tank using the BVC coils. I haven't gotten a burnt hit yet.

Buck Naked #3 getting ready to bust Bambi's daddys azz in the morning! Comp you da man! Tried Zeusjuice too and really like it. Amazing I am branching out a little after vaping the same flavor for a year and a half straight lol.

A couple questions: What is the PG/VG Ratio of the Juice you use? What is the Nicotine content of the Juice you use?

There is nothing wrong with leaving your tanks (clearomizers) loaded with juice and ready to vape. I'm looking at 14 in my rack right now Tam is correct on the batteries. I rarely turn mine off unless I know I won't be using it for a long period of time (weeks), or if I'm afraid the button will be pressed in transit (case, jacket pocket, backpack, etc.). As long as the button is not pressed, there is nothing to drain the battery, so leaving them "on" will not drain them. Much like leaving batteries in your flashlight... as long as it is not "in use", there is nothing to drain the battery/batteries. Leaving a tank attached to a battery while not in use is also fine... but like Tam said, it is a good idea to remove them occasionally (every refill or two) to swab up any drops of juice that leaks through the bottom of the tank's atomizer / air-tube onto the battery contact...

Is there any reason why i can't keep a clearomizer stored with Juice in it for an extended period of time? Also if i am not using one of my batteries do i need to leave it off the clearomizer or can i leave them connected for a period of time while not using? I take off the clearomizer periodically and dab at the juice in the battery well. A few drops will accumulate there if not used for a while. Last question. My batteries (EVOD 650) doesn't seem to have an auto cutoff. If i forget to cut it off my pressing it 5x will it hurt it overnight? I assume the auto cutoff is mainly to keep it from accidentally being pressed in my pocket but i wanted to double check. You're confusing the term "auto cut off" with "shut off". Your battery does have an auto cut off. It's 10 seconds. When you take a deep draw that lasts more than 10 seconds, your battery will automatically cut off the power so it doesn't over heat. You'll see the light in the button flash three times (I think it's either 3 or 5). Pressing the button 5 times in a row will shut your battery off. I rarely turn my batteries off unless I'm storing them in such a way that the button might get pressed accidentally. YMMV.

Nice....

on a trip from Hartford to Cleveland, upgraded to first class and got chatting with the flight attendant as I was the only passenger she didn't have much to do. We talked about vaping, she wasn't familiar. You were alone in first class? I have a short leg on my flight (salt lake to santa barbara) and so far I am the only one booked, but I figured they would bump some people to first class if it was empty

Well Believe it or not China actually makes most of it's Money in Europe at least E Liquid. Dekang for Example, arguably China's biggest e-liquid producers ships out more across Europe and a few select areas of the asian market (e-cigarettes are too expensive for most Chinese to purchase) than they do the states. The thing about China is they don't care what they sell, so long as it turns a profit. If electronic cigarettes were say completely banned, they' just drop shop, reorganize and start producing something else. I don't think it'd phase them all that much to be honest with you. The owners of these large companies have no issues taking their money, closing up the factory and moving onto the next thing. There are two guys at the top of Dekangs food chain and they're set for life. @Bebop - If they can...maybe. But if regulation and the threat of fines outweighs the profit margins of producing advanced vaping gear, they'll do away with it. The same goes for all suppliers. While there are a few vendors that make some serious cash (a couple million gross per year) most vendors, I'd say a good chunk of them (I'm always chit chatting with vendors at conventions we attend, the last one in Arizona) make less than 10-15k a month. The thing is some of them still carry day jobs, if they're hit with a fine of say 50 or maybe 100k (pure speculation) it wouldn't take much to knock most of them out of business. Hell even the threat of a fine is enough for a few of these vendors to say "nope not worth it, it's be fun" The ones that have the big bucks will switch over to whatever the current regulatory requirements are. (I mean why not when most of your competition as been killed off by regulation. It's easy money at that point) In fact we all know if serious regulation does kick in? Most vendors will go away with the wind. It sucks because it's a win for a few and not for vapers. (This insane competition going on right now is great for buyers, it forces suppliers to get more creative, improve logistics etc all in an effort to compete. It's the way the free market works best) The other question could be asked, if they were interested in advanced vaping why not market to that group now? Vuze, Blu, NJOY etc all pretty much stuck with the simple two piece units. I don't think personally they'll go the rough of catering to advanced vapers purely because of the liability that comes along with it. It wasn't long ago people were suing BT because cigarettes caused cancer. This year marked a high point for child poisoning by e-liquid in ER rooms. I'd be willing to bet with tanks and the likes being offered by BT that people would be happy to turn the finger on big tobacco and start suing. ("ugh my tank spilled, you should have made it safer etc etc...") Ironically creating the nanny market they probably once spoke against. They'll likely just avoid the hassle, especially given the fact their current model now which is a moderately safe method of delivery, makes them a ton of money. As for underground vaping, you bet, it'll be around for quite some time. For example most members on this board will likely mix and home brew, in fact they'll probably use this forum to figure out how to do just that. (and at that point we'll do our best to keep the freedom of info flowing legally) but see the tricky part is getting the nicotine. Right now there are a couple of ways to obtain nicotine. The most often used method is purchasing unflavored nicotine from a vendor here in the states or from China. (Sometimes the vendor here in the states does just that...orders from China) Once those seizures kick back in at the border (and boy do I remember those days) it'll be much harder to obtain Chinese unflavored nicotine base liquid or nicotine base from any country. (Philippines for example) I remember one year I lost so much stuff at the border I almost closed up shop. This alone would kill of quite a lot of vendors. Vapor Talk's prices used to be pretty sky high simply to cover the amount of product that was straight up destroyed in customs. (Vendors reading this who've been around for a while will remember the heart rates when checking their inbound tracking numbers. I wished I could share some of the ways we used to bring this stuff in lol) Ok but we can get nicotine in the states right? Well right now it's not regulated all that well but you bet your *** if the FDA started knocking on the doors of companies like DOW stating you have to be licensed etc to purchase, it's going to be pretty hard to get what we all want. You can purchase Nic as a pesticide and break it down but eh.. you're starting to get into some gray area and you'd better hope the guy mixing your stuff knows what he's doing. But if they do succeed in clamping down on US companies distributing nicotine Then it doesn't matter how much hardware is available, what's the point? You're looking at shady dealings trying to get a hold of this stuff which honestly would shrink the DIY arena to a group of screw the government types that simply don't care. But I think the vast majority of users will simply give in and buy the regulated stuff. Who knows though, the one thing I know about this country is that when American's are told they can't have something, they end up wanting it more purely as a middle finger to the government. But like anything else, it's risk reward. The greater the risk, the greater the penalty the more people will just say screw it and buy the crappy pre made cartridges or worse, go back to smoking. It's still an interesting topic to talk about, something we're always chatting up at the office. The fact that we managed to get this far at all, honestly at times, is surprising. There was a time vaping was doomed, now it's likely just to be stifled a bit.

I could be way off base, but I can't imagine China just sitting back and doing nothing and allowing the e-cig business to get hammered into oblivion.. There's way too much money on China's side of this issue. Juice regulation I can forsee, but the equipment side is going to be quite an uphill battle.

Surely there will be a market for more advanced vaping. Dont you think that Big Tobacco will support this? In the form of "sister" companies catering to this need? Otherwise I would expect a huge underground market. I just don't see how they can stop it. It's just too dang easy to produce your own gear and juice. The amount of regulation required to limit consumer purchase of hardware, ingredients, etc is mind boggling. They would have to redesign and trademark batteries etc. It's crazy. I'll take my dozen protanks and hobble along with what I have for years if necessary....they'll have to pry my vape from my cold dead hand, lol...

Here are some tips for you. Place it in a PG/VG mix a higher PG ratio for best results, no higher VG than a 50/50. You can place the loose tobacco straight in the PG/VG and give a good shake twice a day. Keep it in cool dark area. It will take at min 3-4 months for it to flavor the PG/VG. Give it a test after 3 months and see if it is at the level you want for flavor. Also this will add Nicotine to the mix so get a test kit and test it before you add more nicotine to it. Once it is at the level of flavor you like you can filter it with a coffee filter (Use two). Use a glass mason jar so when you go to filter it you can heat it (no more than 150 degrees) so it will flow through the filters. You can put the tobacco in a tea bag to soak in the PG/VG but it will take longer to flavor the PG/VG.