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Ebay strikes again. Not sure what is worse EBay vape gear fakes or those sold at mall kiosks. Pretty close. Generally if it has Kanger on it, it works. Never had a problem with anything Kanger.

Just like anything and everything else in vaping, what can be considered to be "outrageous prices" is also...subjective. Take Five Pawns' juices as one example. They sell a 30 ml bottle for $27.50. That's nearly a buck a ml. I don't mind paying that at all because I really enjoy their Queenside flavor. Now, if I didn't want to pay that and decided to DIY, the start up cost to me to buy all the supplies and safety equipment in order to do it right, the ingredients that I waste on trial and error in order to get the same flavor...but most of all the sheer amount of time it would take... I don't know about you but that kind of time I don't have. I also don't want to put that much effort into something that I have no interest in (making my own juices). Therefore, that price? It's a pittance as far as I'm concerned. I'm paying for much more than just the ingredients. I'm paying for convenience. I'm paying for my time, which to me is worth more than the mere $27.50 a bottle. It's up to each individual what they want to pay and what they deem worthwhile...or not. If you want to DIY, go for it. Me? I prefer to find my favorite flavors and pay the vendor what I feel it is worth, the price(s) the market will bear. Since these companies are successfully selling their product, I'd say the market is bearing their price(s) just fine. And that's just my two cents.

I expected to see the new Colgate E-Juice line. 3D white mango berry blast juice!

You kids are spoiled back in the day we paid more than a $1.00 per ml for Dekang and loved it. Was just the thing after milking the cows and walking 5 mile to school. The cost for this stuff has really come down with the proliferation of vendors .

Got the copper Kraken today. It is so purrrrty.

Before starting out did you first wash the RDA? Sometimes the machining oils they use to build them will remain and give off a nasty taste. Don't rely on the Vamo to read ohms. They may not be accurate. Better to get a dedicated ohm meter just to be safe. I'm also moving this topic to the general modding section.

tried duel twisted again..this time was better, not pretty but vaped really nice..

First attempt building an RDA. Took about 5 minutes, not as easy as it looked in tutorials. 24 gauge single strand .4 ohm. image by Richstag, on Flickr

I currently use only 5 EVOD 1s and 5 of the EVOD 2, glass tanks and I do not have any leaking problems or coils burning out. I get very good flavor and vapor. Give the Genuine Kager EVODs a try, I think you will like them. I do. I do not use the EVOD battery though, I am currently using the Vision Spinner 2s. Great combination.

Click on any of the links in previous posts in your thread where it says, "Evod" and it'll take you to the kit that's sold by the Vapor Talk store. All prices there are comparable (most of the time they're lower) than other stores. This is why most of us on VT don't recommend buying from Ebay. All too often we hear this same type of story that someone bought a knock off thinking it was the genuine brand name product.

Do they have the Kanger logo on the bottom of the battery? If no, then they are fake.

Plus, I'm really bad about not changing cotton but every 3-4 days.

Why do you ask? Do you have something to add about them? With the extra large font you used I'm guessing yes....